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Old Apr 13, 2014, 01:20 AM
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"Why would I open up to someone else who could just up and leave randomly like that?"

Because, I know you want to feel better. You'll get there, growlithing.

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Old Apr 13, 2014, 01:27 AM
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"Why would I open up to someone else who could just up and leave randomly like that?"

Because, I know you want to feel better. You'll get there, growlithing.

I want to feel better. I don't know if I can and I'm not convinced that any of this can actually help. LCM helps because I feel like someone in the world might love me and wants to take care of me. But she can't take away any of the pain I feel inside or make the flashbacks stop. Trauma therapy is designed to help but I just always find myself skeptical. What if my next TT sucks but I trust her anyway abc end up worse?
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Old Apr 13, 2014, 01:46 AM
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"What if my next TT sucks but I trust her anyway abc end up worse?"
I don't think this will happen. Why? Because I experience you as a wise person. And, I don't see you putting trust in someone that can't help you on healing journey.
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Old Apr 13, 2014, 03:25 AM
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I would move on and concentrate on finding a new T.
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Old Apr 13, 2014, 04:34 AM
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IDK, seems like LC'd be doing it for her own reasons and not because she thinks it's in your best interest... I would not let my T "use" me this way. Cause if she reports, they'll sure be asking you some Qs too- are you prepared for that?

Terminating suddenly could be unethical according to the board of ethics (at least here)- though I struggle to imagine a T loosing her/his license over this. Plus if she changed her jobs/got fired/whatever, I don't think it is. She could have given you longer notice but we don't know whether she knew/could have.
Terminating due to other reasons than relocating: honestly, I think in this case it's always better if a T terminates when he/she wants than drag the client on and on knowing he/she can't help/dislikes the client...
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Old Apr 13, 2014, 04:41 AM
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I told LCM to do what she wants so long as she doesn't get me involved with it because I don't care. I'm just curious if you guys think she is overreacting
You painted LCM as a reasonable kind of person. I'm guessing she may know something we don't know about the circumstances.
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Old Apr 13, 2014, 05:03 AM
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I also think you would have to be involved if she is reported because you were the client that was affected by her actions. It sounds like she could have handled things better but I think it's something you could discuss with a new T to process it and rebuild trust. I am sorry it happened though. I think I'd rather just move on in your shoes than report it as it probably isn't a big enough infraction to be worth the hassle.
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Old Apr 13, 2014, 05:25 AM
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You say your ex tt told your lc, she was leaving and not to tell, you about it, so your lc, probably knows more to this than you or any of us know. So your lc is implicated in the whole situation as well, I dont see the reasoning behind your lc wanting to report her for sudden termination, when she knew in advance that she was leaving you.

It just does not make sense at this point, usually therapists tell clients in advance, unless their is some kind of restriction going on where they cant tell the client. When she told your Lc, she was leaving, but not to tell you, then in my oppinion, your lc knows something she is not telling you.
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Old Apr 13, 2014, 06:40 AM
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Whatever she does, I hope she doesn't do anything that will get me involved. I don't think she'd do anything that would involve me.
This will absolutely involve you, as you will be the actual complaining client. You will need to make or provide statements to the ethics board and TT's attorney likely will advocate strenuously for her and against you. The process will likely go on for months and in all probability cause you a great deal of emotional stress. As the client involved, you will be considered responsible for the complaint, not LCM.

Have you considered speaking to an attorney?

I see this whole situation as another example of LCM getting in over her head. She was not in a position to determine whether or not you were ready for TT to begin with, and she seems unaware of what is involved with the serious matter of filing an ethics complaint.

I wish LCM would stick to what she seems to be good at, which is being your "M", and allows those trained in trauma therapy to treat you properly in that area.
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Old Apr 13, 2014, 08:25 AM
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I see this whole situation as another example of LCM getting in over her head. She was not in a position to determine whether or not you were ready for TT to begin with, and she seems unaware of what is involved with the serious matter of filing an ethics complaint.
Totally agree with this. I do wonder, though, if you (Growlithing) posted this to see if others would confirm a possible belief that you have-- which maybe goes along the lines of if LCM overreacted, then maybe that is evidence that she loves you for real?
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Old Apr 13, 2014, 09:17 AM
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What would LCM reporting exT entail for you? Is there anything you'd have to do? If it would not be onerous or traumatic for you, I really fail to see the down side to reporting her. I think when a T has a poor grasp of professional ethics and their competence and judgement is seriously in question, they should be reported. If someone else can be spared the trauma of a bad therapist that's reason enough to bring this to the attention of their licensing body. Losing her license is not the only possible outcome; she could for example, be assigned extra supervision and professional development in which case everyone wins.

ETA: Figure out what's meant by "reporting." I was not thinking litigation, just a letter to the licensing body. That's not like a trial. There's no cross examination. You don't have to invest months of your life. We don't need to reserve the right to complain only in the most egregious cases like sexual abuse. I think we have a right to competent therapists and it's not at all unreasonable to complain when we don't get it.
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Old Apr 13, 2014, 10:11 AM
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In the US some states allow anyone to report, and the clinical record will be extremely important. You may not have to be involved at all.

Also, I went back and read this thread. As I understand it TT told LCM she was leaving in a week, and she didn't want LCM to tell growlithing. It seems like TT wanted to tell growlithing herself, because she did see her and then offer another session which was refused.
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Old Apr 13, 2014, 10:43 AM
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I'm actually on the side of the LCM, she is willing to report this let her. As long as T and Pdocs are allowed to do things that can negatively impact the future of a clients mental health they will continue to do so. If they think they will get reported they will think more ethically about the impact their actions have on the clients. A T or Pdoc just doesn't up and quit one practice, they do have to plan it out in more than two weeks. It is their business and their livelihood.

Most T's are ethical and would have made sure to let you know in advance and would have made sure the referral was made by giving both the new T and you contact info. Ts I have worked with would have let their clients know a month or more about any days they would be gone, whether it was vacation, or conventions. Quitting would have been planed in advance.
If one works in a practice that be all the clinic and contract allow you to give to patients. So they can be prepared to handle the clients and figure out a game plan as to who they will refer clients to within the practice so not to has a mass exudes.
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Old Apr 13, 2014, 11:17 AM
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Just because I'm not angry about it doesn't mean that I was always not angry about it or that I'm suppressing anger. I'm pretty comfortable with anger. Anger and misery are the two emotions I am most comfortable expressing and processing. The others... not so much.

I don't have to have any particular emotional reaction to any event. People are different and experience different emotions.
Yeah, I've seen your anger a few times since I do follow your threads. It just seems like you are detached from the situation. Then again, it shouldn't be all that surprising since you didn't seem attached to her in the first place.
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Old Apr 13, 2014, 12:48 PM
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It would still come down to LCM presuming to speak for me when I really want nothing to do with it. And whether actually physically involved in filing the complaint, the complaint would certainly emotionally involve me as it is my life, my name involved, the case of my therapy.

If you don't want this to happen, tell your LCM to back off about it. This is and should be YOUR decision to make, and your LCM needs to respect what you want here.
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Old Apr 13, 2014, 01:37 PM
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It would still come down to LCM presuming to speak for me when I really want nothing to do with it. And whether actually physically involved in filing the complaint, the complaint would certainly emotionally involve me as it is my life, my name involved, the case of my therapy.

If you don't want this to happen, tell your LCM to back off about it. This is and should be YOUR decision to make, and your LCM needs to respect what you want here.

I talked to her. She said she isn't going to do anything. She is just angry.
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Old Apr 13, 2014, 08:20 PM
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I think its good that your ok with the situation regarding your old T & weren't affected by the termination. However, I think something should be done, only because she may do a similar thing next time & may really hurt a client (emotionally I mean). So yep I agree with your LCM.
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