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Old Jan 24, 2015, 03:28 PM
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My preferred outcry is "Oh for crying out loud!" sometimes abbreviated FCOL online where at least four people will be confused because it's regional in the US.
I have never seen it as fcol - but it was a refrain used by my mother a lot.
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 03:29 PM
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I'm sorry to hear that. Would it feel helpful to talk about why?
Well, I guess it's silly. I just don't need to be told what my emotions really are and why.

[edited to add: I'm sorry, that came across as terribly curt and rude I guess. This is hard for me to talk about. I am very touched and grateful that you would ask me about this. ]

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Old Jan 24, 2015, 03:41 PM
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I have never seen it as fcol - but it was a refrain used by my mother a lot.
Somehow that doesnt surprise me. there was a mother in my neighborhood who that was her favorite expression. I found it very dismissive. I transferred my fear and dislike of my mother onto her. My mother would have used an italian swear version of the expression.
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 03:46 PM
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I think I have started to do this. I used to not cry in front of H. I have started to find myself reacting in a more authentic way. I think it is mostly a matter of feeling entitled to my feelings, to the point where his reaction would not affect my opinion or belief in myself. Even if he were to say "that is THE dumbest reason to cry", I would be able to defend my right to my true feelings.
Oh! I first read this as t, not h. I love the bolded part, such a perfect statement. Remember when we thought you'd never get over changing ts? That was horrible but you made it. And look at our little pbutton now
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 03:49 PM
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Ack. Not the point for me at all.

Plus the idea of paint on my fingers creeps me out.
I always hated things where my hands got trapped in goo - even as a child. If they made us paint (I despised art class) then the least they could do is provide proper implements for the odious task.
I LOVED the one time we fingerpainted in kindergarten. I wore a thick yellow plastic apron. I can almost still smell it. I loved the squishy fingerpaints. We only ever did it once. Once! What kind of horrible kindergarten was that??
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 03:50 PM
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Well, I guess itsilly t's silly. I just don't need to be told what my emotions really are and why.
Anyone who thinks they can decide or dictate someone else's feelings is an overbearing jerk. I am SO sorry.
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 03:51 PM
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Somehow that doesnt surprise me. there was a mother in my neighborhood who that was her favorite expression. I found it very dismissive. I transferred my fear and dislike of my mother onto her. My mother would have used an italian swear version of the expression.
So your mother was Italian too, huh? My mother (100% Italian) used to say something nasty and then say, "Capish???" at the end of it. Yeah, I get it, you *****.
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 03:55 PM
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Or finger paintings. Get in touch with your inner child.

My inner child is apparently very angry. Whenever I try to do arty/'childish' stuff I feel like throwing the paint against the wall and making a huge angry mess.

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Old Jan 24, 2015, 03:58 PM
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No, an actual factual error, like claiming the wrong original language for a text. But it doesn't matter since it was a throwaway comment in a post about another subject. I don't want to come across as a jerk.
If it was me that made the error, please feel free to post it. I dont like to have bad info floating out there. Otherwise, you might want to pm the person if you think they might get embarrassed? This is the kind of thing my t works with me on - my mother would just humiliate me, no problem. But how do normal people treat each others feelings? How does one measure what is important to say?
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 03:59 PM
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Perhaps using finger puppets.

Not as off the wall as it sounds - they do this in T with kids... Worth a try...

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Old Jan 24, 2015, 04:03 PM
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Well, I guess it's silly. I just don't need to be told what my emotions really are and why.

[edited to add: I'm sorry, that came across as terribly curt and rude I guess. This is hard for me to talk about. I am very touched and grateful that you would ask me about this. ]
I didn't interpret it as rude or curt at all. It helped me understand that you deal with someone who doesn't support you in a way that would be healthy and helpful. It pissed me off on your behalf. Everyone needs to let Mast have her own feelings. Or else. My protective swashbuckler was activated.
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 04:03 PM
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I admit I'm jealous of people who find exercise useful.

Also, I am less sober than I ought to be.

Sober is overrated. Pass the booze plz

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Old Jan 24, 2015, 04:12 PM
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Oh god, crying in front of H would be the end of me.

The end of me too - which is why he is stbx. He used to get angry at me for crying.
I don't know Mast... For me personally it's just not worth having someone in my life who isn't accepting of who I am. Letting go is hard as hell, but worth it, I think, most of the time...

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Old Jan 24, 2015, 04:20 PM
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I didn't interpret it as rude or curt at all. It helped me understand that you deal with someone who doesn't support you in a way that would be healthy and helpful. It pissed me off on your behalf. Everyone needs to let Mast have her own feelings. Or else. My protective swashbuckler was activated.
Ooh, I have a posse!

It's not H's fault though. Not in any way. He doesn't know or realise, and if I don't tell him, that's on me.
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 04:37 PM
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Someone somewhere is cooking steak. I can smell it...
The stbx used to make the best steak...


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Old Jan 24, 2015, 04:39 PM
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No, just vegan meatballs and shirataki spaghetti.
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 04:42 PM
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No, just vegan meatballs and shirataki spaghetti.
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 04:50 PM
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No, just vegan meatballs and shirataki spaghetti.

I'd settle for vegan meatballs and good company

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Old Jan 24, 2015, 05:07 PM
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No, an actual factual error, like claiming the wrong original language for a text.
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 05:10 PM
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"You have not experienced Shakespeare until you have read him in the original Klingon."
Very glib. I acknowledge that my question was unnecessary.
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 05:21 PM
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"You have not experienced Shakespeare until you have read him in the original Klingon."
No, that was Marlowe.
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 05:33 PM
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How is it typically male to not see that crying is a dispreferred action?
My first thought wasn't "cry" either.
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 05:35 PM
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My first thought wasn't "cry" either.
Perhaps the language challenge was Yurtlanders and their neighbors and not male/female.
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 05:36 PM
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My inner child is apparently very angry. Whenever I try to do arty/'childish' stuff I feel like throwing the paint against the wall and making a huge angry mess.

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Old Jan 24, 2015, 05:43 PM
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Is there a way to tell if T is acting deliberarately in a manner to elict a response from you. I thought T was trying to do this but it could be a number of happenings in his world that could have made him behave this way.
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