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Old Apr 18, 2015, 01:38 PM
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Overdose is overdose regardless why you overdosed and if you had symptoms or not.

Maybe t didn't trust you to make sound decision if she warned you so she ended up calling 911. I think when faced medical emergency, which overdose is, all bets off and one needs to make quick decision and your safety comes first.

Sorry you lost trust in her but honestly if my loved ones overdose, I want someone to call 911 and not worry about trust. My uncle died of overdose and he was young, it is not a joke

Dang it if I take 15 pills of anything, do not ask my opinion but please take me to ER or call the ambulance. Don't worry about trust

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Old Apr 18, 2015, 02:07 PM
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I can't handle other people making decisions for me and feeling out of control without them even talking to me about it. It's just triggering. Irrational, yes, but it's how I feel.
Then you know what you need to work on . . . You need to learn ways to cope with stress and anxiety that aren't potentially life-threatening so people don't have to make decisions about your safety for you. When you make suicidal jestures, you are NOT in control, and honestly, you pretty much abdicate your control because you open the door legally for others to make decisions about your safety at that point. Those actions have consequences, and if you can't live with the consequence (i.e. being hospitalized for your safety), then you have to change that behavior.
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Old Apr 18, 2015, 06:55 PM
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A mobile crisis unit = a nurse and a police officer specially trained in crisis intervention. They will come to your home or wherever, do a risk assessment, and transport you to a hospital if necessary. BUT they are trained to minimize the traumatic potential of such an action because they are experts in crisis situations like suicide risk, ie they will be calmer and less threatening. And I will repeat, T could have still called whoever she wanted but told me she was going to do it and then discussed things I could do while in the hospital to feel safer.

I don't understand what you mean in your last paragraph. Can you explain?
I think that telling a T that you took 15 sleeping pills is a cry for help. You are virtually guaranteeing that she will take some kind of action to ensure your physical safety. And I suspect that you might have some fantasy about being comforted and rescued in the midst of whatever horrible time you're having. Can you and she find a way for you to get the comfort without escalating things and forcing T's hand by telling her you've overdosed? You're awfully cavalier about taking fifteen pills.

I agree that she could have handled it better. It would have been better to call the mobile crisis unit with you there in the office rather than have police meet you at your door unexpected. But she may have been overwhelmed or unsure what to do in the moment. It may not have occurred to her while on the phone with the 911 dispatcher that the mobile crisis unit was an option. She was likely genuinely worried about you.

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Old Apr 18, 2015, 07:03 PM
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It doesn't seem very good judgement on her part (if she was so concerned) that she let you leave her office. That doesn't make sense. And the hospital didn't keep you? It sounds like they thought you were okay.

I think she messed up. It doesn't sound like you disagree with her being concerned and taking some kind of action. It sounds like you are upset with the way she did it. I still can't get over that she let you leave like that and didn't do something before you left. That is so bizarre.
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Old Apr 18, 2015, 07:44 PM
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I wonder about the hospital letting you go so quick . Did U tell them number of pills?

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Old Apr 18, 2015, 07:45 PM
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It sounds like she talked to her supervisor and was told what to do.
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Old Apr 18, 2015, 07:52 PM
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I wonder about the hospital letting you go so quick . Did U tell them number of pills?

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Yes, I did, but I didn't have any side effects from it other than having a lot of energy and at that dose it couldn't have done any serious damage. They talked to pdoc, figured I had no symptoms, wasn't about to go home and kill myself, and said I could go home.
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Old Apr 18, 2015, 07:53 PM
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It sounds like she talked to her supervisor and was told what to do.

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It sounds like she talked to her supervisor and was told what to do.
No, I asked her if that was the case, and she said no, it was just after I left that she started getting very worried about me. She didn't think to call anyone other than 911 (because I asked if she'd called her supervisor or someone else about it, or if she'd called pdoc to talk to him, and she said she hadn't).
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Old Apr 18, 2015, 08:00 PM
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No, I asked her if that was the case, and she said no, it was just after I left that she started getting very worried about me. She didn't think to call anyone other than 911 (because I asked if she'd called her supervisor or someone else about it, or if she'd called pdoc to talk to him, and she said she hadn't).

Honestly I wonder if you would benefit from thinking of why would you take 15 pills snd why are you getting so distressed over minor set backs ( wasn't it over a friend visit), you worry about why your t did this or that.

Are you not concerned about your overall state of mind that causes you taking that many pills and getting so distressed?

It is dangerous

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Old Apr 18, 2015, 08:10 PM
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Honestly I wonder if you would benefit from thinking of why would you take 15 pills snd why are you getting so distressed over minor set backs ( wasn't it over a friend visit), you worry about why your t did this or that.

Are you not concerned about your overall state of mind that causes you taking that many pills and getting so distressed?

It is dangerous

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I can't discuss the particulars of this situation on PC because otherwise this thread will get shut down, but it was VERY understandable for me to be incredibly distressed after this particular interaction with this particular friend (T and pdoc both agree, if you trust their judgement better than mine). Were the pills a good idea? Absolutely not, and that might be something I could work through in therapy if T actually wanted to help me instead of referring me to someone else.

But regardless, what happened with this friend involved her stealing (emotionally manipulating me into giving her) almost $10 000 from me and pretending she loved me and like I was her daughter for over a year in order to get that money, and then suddenly no more money, no more love/care/anything. So this was NOT a minor setback at all and T was furious that she had done this to me. Doesn't change the fact that the pills were a bad idea, but I take offence to being accused of overreacting to a "minor setback," because it absolutely wasn't.
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Old Apr 18, 2015, 08:12 PM
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Also, it really isn't helpful to debate whether T was right or wrong. I accept that she did the right thing; maybe not the absolute BEST thing, but the ethical thing, and that it came from a place of care. But people repeating this to me isn't helpful because I know it already, but I still feel the way I feel and T doesn't seem willing/able to help me work through these feelings of not being safe (even if those feelings are irrational!!!). And being reminded thay these feelings are irrational and I shouldn't feel the way I'm feeling because T was just doing her best, etc, makes me feel incredibly guilty, because I already KNOW I shouldn't feel the way I feel. But I don't know how to help it. I've tried thinking about her point of view, but then that just makes me feel guilty for effectively doing this to myself and hurting my T in the process. So what do I do about this?
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Old Apr 18, 2015, 08:21 PM
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Were the pills a good idea? Absolutely not, and that might be something I could work through in therapy if T actually wanted to help me instead of referring me to someone else.
Perhaps T wants to help you, but she and/or her supervisor feel that they cannot after the pill incident. Perhaps T believes that she actually is helping you, by allowing there to be significant consequences to your actions.

ETA: Cross-posted with the above.

I think that your feelings are understandable and okay. As to what to do: work through those feelings with a new T.
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Old Apr 18, 2015, 08:28 PM
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Perhaps T wants to help you, but she and/or her supervisor feel that they cannot after the pill incident. Perhaps T believes that she actually is helping you, by allowing there to be significant consequences to your actions.

ETA: Cross-posted with the above.

I think that your feelings are understandable and okay. As to what to do: work through those feelings with a new T.
If she's deciding not to see me to "punish" me and show me there are "consequences," I am NOT a child and I don't need any authority figure "punishing" me for being emotionally unwell. I've had enough of that in my life, thank you very much.
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Old Apr 18, 2015, 08:38 PM
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I wouldn't consider that person a friend then! 10k? Can you sue? I was scammed before but not by a friend! Screw love and friendship and visiting her, I would demand my money one way or the other! It clearly is distressing! Sue her

As about your t she might be afraid to work with you due to overdosing. Ask her if that's the case

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Old Apr 18, 2015, 08:44 PM
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I wouldn't consider that person a friend then! 10k? Can you sue? I was scammed before but not by a friend! Screw love and friendship and visiting her, I would demand my money one way or the other! It clearly is distressing! Sue her

As about your t she might be afraid to work with you due to overdosing. Ask her if that's the case

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She is NOT my friend anymore, and yes I am considering going the legal route...my point is just that that was what upset me so much, that I found out the truth and ended this friendship that had been so important for me for such a long time, and that had been healing for me, to have this mother figure in my life, and then to find out it was all just a lie in order to get money from me, because she knows my father has a lot of money and she used my mother issues in order to manipulate me...and then manipulated other people by making up lies about me to them and saying I was so selfish and needy, etc.

About T - yes, I think that could be it, and if it is, I understand, but it still hurts.
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Old Apr 18, 2015, 08:53 PM
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Good for you ending it. Hope u can get money back

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