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Old May 19, 2016, 02:45 AM
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I have a question, how would you guys feel if your T lied to you? Maybe you do not know for sure they lied, but nonetheless are fairly certain. Even if the T denies it, how would you continue therapy knowing they betrayed your trust? Maybe it depends on the lie - whether the lie has any therapeutic benefit or not, but I don't understand how a lie can be therapeautic when it betrays the trust in such a close and "healing" relationship.

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Old May 19, 2016, 02:58 AM
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I assume they are lying most of the time. I don't find it a betrayal because I believe it is their set up. I simply don't put trust in them in that way.
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Old May 19, 2016, 03:09 AM
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It would severely affect me and I would certainly question whether I could continue. In a few emails arranging an initial appointment I had asked several questions in an email which also confirmed the appointment time. Questions about the office, parking, people who might be around, where I would wait etc etc. She emailed back saying I was booked in for the time but did not answer my questions. After a few days I emailed again and the next day her response was that my email must have got lost because she did not receive any questions from me. That was a lie because it was in the same email, the same paragraph. If you forgot then say so, don't treat me like I am stupid and if it was genuine confusion over something that simple then I didn't hold out much hope for her being able to deal with my issues. Other than that it has not come up but I am always on the lookout for it.
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Old May 19, 2016, 07:12 AM
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I've never been aware of one of my therapists lying to me. They have all been pretty straight with me, even if they knew what they had to say would be difficult to hear. I do trust my therapists and they have never betrayed that trust.
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Old May 19, 2016, 08:05 AM
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My second t lied to me, it was an extremely big misleading betraying lie. When I found out I couldn't continue seeing her. I sent her an email telling her I knew that she had lied. She said I must have misheard or misunderstood her but I know what I heard. I stopped seeing her right away. It hurt because I was really attached to her, she was the only t who gave hugs.
I really affected my and my ability to trust any t.

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Old May 19, 2016, 08:30 AM
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I assume they are lying most of the time. I don't find it a betrayal because I believe it is their set up. I simply don't put trust in them in that way.
I agree with this. The profession feeds off lies.

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Old May 19, 2016, 08:46 AM
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I don't believe my T lies to me. I think he is careful about disclosure (in that he wouldn't tell me something that might be hurtful or harmful to me) but outright lying? No.
If I found out a T had told me a lie, it would be difficult if not impossible to regain trust, and for me the relationship is worthless without trust.
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Old May 19, 2016, 09:13 AM
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Lying would only serve to break any trust I might have & seriously undermine my being able to work with them.

I don't believe lies have any therapeutic value whatsoever - it merely shows one is being deceitful and fake. There is no need for lies, the truth can be told in a kind way. And *that* would be far more therapeutic to me than being lied to.
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Old May 19, 2016, 09:29 AM
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I think my therapist has feigned ignorance about TV shows ect. I mean who hasn't at least seen one episode of The Big Bang Theory? or heard of if??

I take it as her wanting me wanting to explain things in my own words/feelings instead of using pop culture examples to shortcut actually expressing myself.
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Old May 19, 2016, 09:39 AM
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I think my therapist has feigned ignorance about TV shows ect. I mean who hasn't at least seen one episode of The Big Bang Theory? or heard of if??
. . . raises hand quietly . . . I've heard of it, but I couldn't tell you anything about it. People have different interests and experiences. I have students who never watch television at all which always amazes me, but that isn't all that unusual from what I am discovering. I'm a big T.V. watcher, but that is a show I've never viewed.
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Old May 19, 2016, 10:53 AM
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my T lied to me once... we were preparing to go to a lawsuit mediation against my former T in another city. he drove me there. about a week before we left i wrote a letter to him and put it and a cigarette in a bag and sealed it shut. i gave it to him and told him to open it the morning before we left. a few days later i came into his office and the bag was sitting there but i noticed there was air in the bag. i remembered i made it completely flat. i asked him if he had read the note and he said no. so i told him about the air. he said ok yes i did read it but because i thought it was a suicide note. he said he thought the cig was some kind of cruel joke that he might need one after reading it.

i hadnt thought about it being thought of that way. it was not a suicide note at all. i wasnt mad at my T for lying but i do wish he would have just said yea i read it when i first asked. maybe he got nervous, idk
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Old May 19, 2016, 11:31 AM
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I think my therapist has fibbed a few times. The one that comes to mind most clearly is when I needed to talk about a professional person that I am fairly sure he must have known as well. He denied knowing him. I was totally fine with this denial, even though I think it probably wasn't true, because I needed to have the space to be able to talk freely about my encounter with this person. So I guess I'm ok with being told fibs as long as they are in the interest of preserving the safe space in our relationship.
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Old May 19, 2016, 01:08 PM
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I think my therapist has fibbed a few times. The one that comes to mind most clearly is when I needed to talk about a professional person that I am fairly sure he must have known as well. He denied knowing him. I was totally fine with this denial, even though I think it probably wasn't true, because I needed to have the space to be able to talk freely about my encounter with this person. So I guess I'm ok with being told fibs as long as they are in the interest of preserving the safe space in our relationship.

This was similar to the lie my t told me except this person was my ex t and her supervisee. As it turns out they knew each other very well!

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Old May 19, 2016, 02:38 PM
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This was similar to the lie my t told me except this person was my ex t and her supervisee. As it turns out they knew each other very well!

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Oh, that's a different order of magnitude than my situation! This was basically a one-off encounter that I had found disturbing but which the other person would have likely barely noticed. There was really no chance that the other person would have ever brought me up in conversation with my therapist, even had they been the best of friends.
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Old May 19, 2016, 03:01 PM
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I think my therapist has feigned ignorance about TV shows ect. I mean who hasn't at least seen one episode of The Big Bang Theory? or heard of if??

I take it as her wanting me wanting to explain things in my own words/feelings instead of using pop culture examples to shortcut actually expressing myself.
I have never seen the show either. I am not even sure what it is about.
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