[Burnt_Out]

...or do they ignore all of us online?

Professionals chime in to help out in more mundane areas of life like music production and microbrewing on forums all the time, but I've never seen anyone that cared beyond their hourly rate enough to realize how many of us live and reach out in this modern reality that is "online" and contribute.

So, we're left with each other: The damaged trying to help the damaged. I'm not sure that this is the best way. Please prove me wrong.

[Waterbear]

I thought I had seen one or two

[unaluna]

Why should they? Psychological insight or change doesn't come from hearing the "right" advice, like cook your beer at x temperature. It comes from a process between the client/t pair. There is lots of very good advice you can ignore right here from us amateurs. Oh because resistance.

[Luce]

Beyond standard run of the mill advice like 'seek a licensed professional in your own area' I don't think there is much they could offer on here. Therapy is very personal. It takes time and ongoing communication to establish a meaningful rapport. Beyond the eight hour day (and afterhours communication with their own clients if they allow between session contact) they likely don't have much time to hang out on forums like this. If I were a T I would most likely pursue my own personal interests in my free time.

Pattijane is a retired psychotherapist, she responds to posts about EMDR but is mostly quiet besides that.

[Waterbear]

I think I don't mind posting on here in as much detail as I do because I think there is such a miniscule chance that my T will ever look at a forum like this. As said above, any free time she does have is more than likely spent interacting with her family and friends and doing things she likes, looking after herself and generally just living. Interesting.

[Burnt_Out]

Originally Posted by unaluna

Why should they?

Why should a production pro give mastering advice online?

Altruism, perhaps? Call me crazy.

[Waterbear]

I think I don't mind posting on here in as much detail as I do because I think there is such a miniscule chance that my T will ever look at a forum like this. As said above, any free time she does have is more than likely spent interacting with her family and friends and doing things she likes, looking after herself and generally just living, that is good news for me. Interesting.

[Pennster]

Originally Posted by Burnt_Out

...or do they ignore all of us online?

Professionals chime in to help out in more mundane areas of life like music production and microbrewing on forums all the time, but I've never seen anyone that cared beyond their hourly rate enough to realize how many of us live and reach out in this modern reality that is "online" and contribute.

So, we're left with each other: The damaged trying to help the damaged. I'm not sure that this is the best way. Please prove me wrong.

There do seem to be a few therapists on here, but they post from a client's perspective. I think its not so much that therapists don't care enough to help but rather that this forum is meant to be peer support, so therapists aren't "supposed to" be chiming in with any kind of "authoritative" voice.

But I think you might find it enormously helpful- lots of people here at different stages in the whole therapy thing, and much collective wisdom. I have learned a lot from people here, and it has made my own therapy much deeper and more rewarding.

[unaluna]

Originally Posted by Burnt_Out

Why should a production pro give mastering advice online?

Altruism, perhaps? Call me crazy.

Did you even bother to read the rest of my response? Why didn't you respond to it?

[retro_chic]

Honestly I think it is really easy to get burnt out being a therapist and it is important for them to have a good work/life balance. Imagine spending all day helping clients and then in your spare time going online and trying to help more people. It would be exhausting.

You might be interested in Kati Morton though, she is a therapist who has a Youtube channel where she talks openly about mental health issues and answers people's questions. She seems really nice and I like her videos a lot.

EDIT:
I just noticed your username - I'm sure you understand what I mean by burnt out!

I'm glad most of the professionals fly under the radar and the ones that don't chime in from a client side. I appreciate peer support more than professional support in this forum and would feel very threatened by an authoritative presence here.

Would a therapist be interested in this forum? I think if they ever wanted an honest look at how a subset of their clients react to therapy they would. I'm sure there are also a good number that really don't want to know how severely many of us struggle between sessions and deal with the implications of their mistakes.

There is one therapist on here whose opinion I find informed and useful (and crucially not with any kind of a superior attitude).
Another therapist joined a while ago and presumptively announced that they were here as a therapist to give insight and answer questions. The tone of their posts was incredibly superior and disconnected from the purpose of this site. I agree with Crocus wholeheartedly that anybody coming on here presuming authority could cause more harm than good.
Personally I have learnt more from, been provided with better advice from and felt most supported by other clients on PC than anyone else (along with my current T, support-wise).
This is a support forum used primarily by clients, and presumptive advice from a therapist would seem not altruistic, but self-serving and egotistic. (And I say this as a user of this forum, notwithstanding my position as a trainee therapist).

[stopdog]

1. I don't think the site would let some anonymous person who self identified as a therapist dispense advice as a professional. Potential liability, potential drama, their fluctuating and often self serving ideas of what is or is not ethical, etc

2. Why would one take specific advice or input from a self identified stranger on the internet?

3. I think those guys could learn a lot by reading the forums and I don't think a therapist is any busier than anyone else - I just don't think their input would be useful.

4. Those guys often don't agree with each other and are often territorial about clients - two or more could clash about advice to give someone.
And other reasons - those were just the ones that immediately came to mind

[Bipolarchic14]

I have discussed this site with my therapist and she not only avoids these sites but shows concern for those who do seek advice on them because of the chances of misinterpretation. So you may not be running into a lot of professionals on here.

[divine1966]

I specialize in disabilities and have grad degree and a lot of experience but I try to advice minimally on the subject as it could cause more harm as I don't see these people in real life and could only speculate on what they have and treatment they need. It's wise to see a specialist in real life rather than on here

I offer people advice but just as a casual poster not as a professional. We aren't on here in a professional capacity

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[stopdog]

Also, I don't consider myself damaged or in need of healing. I have not met a therapist, whether as a professional to me as a client, as a friend of mine who happens to work as therapist, or as a professional I interact with in my own profession - who was better at their own life than I am - and some of them considerably worse. Therapists, in my opinion, are just as ****ed up as anyone else. I don't think anyone who isn't ****ed up even wants to become a therapist.

[AncientMelody]

A therapist dispensing professional advice to someone that they do not work with in a therapeutic context online could get into trouble if the person has bad outcomes. It is in fact unethical to give more than basic advice to that person.

[awkwardlyyours]

I don't think of myself or others here as damaged. Or, for that matter, therapists as somehow "not damaged".

If I did want a therapist's help with my life, I would you know.....go to a therapist.

ETA: And yes, I can completely see how the impersonal nature of techniques related to production or brewing beer etc is perfectly comparable to the process of individual therapy. Not.

[Waterbear]

Why would a proffessional T on here have to be giving advice, couldn't they just offer a different perspective, another viewpoint amongst many many viewpoints that are already present? Just my thought.

[stopdog]

There are a couple if not more who do that already

[Waterbear]

I know, I had mentioned that I had seen one or two in my first post.

[atisketatasket]

Originally Posted by Burnt_Out

Why should a production pro give mastering advice online?

Altruism, perhaps? Call me crazy.

It's up to them, isn't it? Condemning a whole profession because they don't hang out online in a forum that is sometimes hostile to them is a little strong to me.

Have you ever looked at the medical question websites where people write in with their symptoms and real doctors answer? The doctors almost always end up saying "see your doctor," whether they're worried or not. Otherwise they could be doing the posters harm. Same with therapists. A production pro is not likely to do someone damage if they give bad advice.

[TishaBuv]

I thought therapists don't give advice, anyway. They say "And how does that make you feel? And what do you think you should do?"

[Sarmas]

Originally Posted by Burnt_Out

...or do they ignore all of us online?

Professionals chime in to help out in more mundane areas of life like music production and microbrewing on forums all the time, but I've never seen anyone that cared beyond their hourly rate enough to realize how many of us live and reach out in this modern reality that is "online" and contribute.

So, we're left with each other: The damaged trying to help the damaged. I'm not sure that this is the best way. Please prove me wrong.

Omg you're so right!!!!! That's what I don't get. I understand that it's a career and that they get paid for it but you would think that they would love what they do (hopefully) for the most part. You would expect at least some devoting some voluntary time or so. I'm a nurse and some of my patients are psych patients. When I'm not at work if anyone comes up to me with their psych issues or just need to talk I'm there to listen. It's something I enjoy to do. I love to hear others and be able to help out in any way I can. I get paid for what I do but know that there's a need. Our area is very lacking in that. I usually have random people at dunkin donuts or other places approach me and they just start talking. My T said to me that when she's not at work she wants to listen no one because she has to listen to people all of the time which is two days out of the week. I found that to be sad and when she said that I was disappointed that she saw things that way. It made it seem as if she was forced to do what she did due to finances and but so Much because she really cared about what she did. I'm thinking there might be a a few Ts that due so but not many. They're used to seeing that clock and getting paid by the hour.