[Perna]

Okay, this morning I dreamed I was on the phone, straightening out an ongoing purchase or subscription. I was supposed to get the first one free, or two for the price of one, or the first two at the same time and then one at a time thereafter, and the people on the other end and I had different ideas of how it worked. It was like the Keystone Cops:

I think it's Mybestkids2's fault; she was telling me about the trouble she's been having trying to understand some customer service people in India and I had that trouble myself when Amazon kept sending me additional copies of a single book I ordered (I ended up with 3 but think I only paid for 2; nevermind I only wanted 1 :-)

Anyone have any really "dumb" dreams so boring you don't even want to analyze them? I love dreams and it makes me wild to have really "useless" ones that aren't even worth the time spent dreaming them :-)

[sunrise]

Yes, I had a dumb one last night, that seems meaningless and totally boring. I have a college visit arranged for my senior in high school daughter. We are visiting the honors program at the university next week and have an appointment with the director. In the dream, my other, younger daughter told me this director had called our house and she had spoken to him. She said she could tell he was gay over the phone. I scolded her for making such assumptions. (In real life, I have never spoken to the director, only to his secretary.) When we got to the college, sure enough, the director was gay. Nice guy. I have no idea what that means. Garbage dream.

[MissCharlotte]

Yeah, but I have come to believe that the "dumb" dreams may have deeper meaning, like:

What do you feel confused about IRL? What books were you ordering? Do you know the titles of the subscription? How does it feel to tell someone what you want and to have that "need" confused? Is someone confusing your needs/wants? Do you feel like you don't understand what they are saying and having a hard time explaining?

Ahhhh, yes Perna I think these dreams are triggered by events that are insignificant but they attach themselves to feelings that are significant? Does that make any sense?

Anyway that's my two cents!!!! LOL

Peace.

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Ahhhh, yes Perna I think these dreams are triggered by events that are insignificant but they attach themselves to feelings that are significant? Does that make any sense?

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That makes absolutely no sense at all. Just kidding, LOL... actually I completely agree with you. I think that's a wonderful way to describe it.

I have often had dreams that I was disappointed with and didn't feel the need to analyze because the meaning seemed so 'surface.' For example, I sometimes fall asleep with CourtTV on in the background... to a show like Forensic Files or something like that. Then I end up having a dream that I am involved in some sort of crime... so I could easily say, "Duh, I had that dream cause Forensic Files was on in the background while I was asleep," but like Sister said, there is still material in those dreams that are representative of significant feelings and thoughts that I have.

Then again, I can be totally annoying and believe that everything is connected to everything and that there are no random events, thoughts, or feelings.

But I think that there is signifcance in every dream. Here is another example of a really "dumb" dream I had that I later figured out was significant. I dreamt that John Belushi was invovled in a snowball fight outside of my house. He then came in my house to shower and dry off. When I woke up, I was like.... that is the dumbest thing. I don't watch Saturday Night Live, I don't follow any of the work John Belushi has done... how dumb.

First thing I thought of when I hear the name John Belushi? Died of a drug overdose.

What did I say to my husband that evening before I had the dream? "I really wish I hadn't started smoking again because now I'm gonna die of lung cancer."

I believe that the dream was significant of the anxiety and disappointment in myself that I had started smoking again.

So I think that sometimes you just have to look really, really hard.... but it's there.

[Perna]

Yes, I know there's always "something" in a dream of use but some dreams I just don't want to bother with :-) I have a hard time making myself understood a lot of the time and I imagine this was probably "more of the same".

Your John Beluisi dream reminds me of my Elton John dream where I borrowed a pair of his big white glasses http://www.eltonjohn.com/images/2007/08/21/12536_mn.jpg because they went with my cow costume. . . long story, very significant dream (later involving a machine gun and a fence :-) I don't care for Elton John either.

Thinking about the Elton John dream though; maybe there's a lot having to do with how we think about a dream as to how "significant" it is? Not in the obvious sense that if you don't think about it or "like" it it can't very easily be very significant but I guess it does have to "grab" one, have some feature in it that makes us sit up and think?

[Perna]

There was no "movement" in the on-the-phone dream; I don't remember it being about a particular magazine or book or product, sister, so that isn't the "point" of this dream for me I don't think. It's whole "vagueness" and being on the phone (rather than in-person) is its point I think. Night before last I had an equally "dumb" dream, I was playing a new kind of computer game/program on a new kind of computer and was going to have to get rid of my two computers I have now because they were obsolete; I woke myself literally "worrying" about who to give them to and how to erase them/get them clean enough to give away.

The Elton John dream was very long and had lots of complicated parts and bizarre scenes (me looking in a mirror after I'd put on his white glasses to check out the overall effect of me in my cow suit :-) but it was the very very end when an important "voice" urgently told me "Don't you know? There are no fences in San Francisco!" that is the most significant and that I'm still analyzing.

[ECHOES]

Gosh you all have interesting dreams.

I've shared a few dreams with T and last week shared an image that was all that I remembered. I don't know if there was more to it or not. In the dream image, she and I are standing in a hallway talking casually. There's a doorway off the hallway, the door is open and through the doorway all there is, is raging red roaring fire, dancing flames from floor to ceiling. I can see it kind of over my shoulder, kind of behind me and to the side. Neither of us is concerned about this room on fire. That's all I remember. I remember how red the fire was and I think that's why it stuck with me.

{Do you dream in color?}

So we talked about it and her interpretation is that since we in the hallway talking casually and the flames are roaring and filling up the room, that means she isn't doing her part in attending to the room on fire.

That makes me feel bad and I'm sorry I told her.

And I don't know what that means she will do now.

[sidony]

Yeah I sometimes think dreams that seem really silly aren't. Like for ages I was laughing about the dream I had about my therapist. It was the only dream I'd had. I dreamed I walked into a bowling alley and he was working there. I walked away thinking "what a strange job for a therapist to have on the side." I thought that was about the dumbest dream ever.

Later on, I realized it had meaning though: The bowling alley was located where the games room used to be at my college university. And I got involved with the guy who worked in the game room. He was the first person to try to seduce me. Now I'm not implying my therapist wants to seduce me (he doesn't), but he is the first person I've learned about real intimacy from. And that's even more significant than the sexuality I was learning about in my college days.

So sometimes the dumb has meaning.

But then again, there's the completely dumb: I dreamed my brother was holding up an x-ray (he's a doctor), and the x-ray was actually just a photo of him with no shirt on and his chest looking hairy. If there's any useful significance to that dream, I'll be darned if I know what it is!

Sidony

[Perna]

I don't know, Sidony, could be your brother was a stand-in for your ex- or something and how there's not much to him; in a couple ways, the "see-through" x-ray sense and the hairy-chest photo and admiring himself sense. I'd think it would be a message to me to "see through" some guy's posing, etc.

[sidony]

Interesting idea! Maybe there is something in that though I'm not sure who's standing in for who. I might be able to work with that and come up with something though. You have great ideas on interpreting dreams!

Sidony