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Old Sep 10, 2017, 10:12 PM
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I do respect his preference and he knows that. I apologized and he said that I've done nothing wrong. I've been being professional with him. However, if I switch pharmacies, I'd like to say hi every now and then. If he had a problem with that, he would've been honest with me.

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Old Sep 10, 2017, 10:26 PM
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If he didn't want to stay in touch, he would have said no.
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Old Sep 11, 2017, 12:13 AM
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I guess it doesn't matter. I'm a worthless person anyway so if I leave that pharmacy, I will refrain from keeping in touch with him even though he said that it was okay to stay in touch.
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Old Sep 11, 2017, 01:24 AM
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I find this thread triggering for me, in that there are a few aspects that mirror a relationship I previously had. It's a good opportunity for me to explore a few things in myself, for sure.

With that being said, Hope, do you think it's time to put aside the relationship with the pharmacist? Even if you had a friendship with him, it wouldn't solve anything in your own life and it seems to be serving you as a huge distraction.
I think this issue gives you the opportunity to investigate that.
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Old Sep 11, 2017, 01:54 AM
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The pharmacist has nothing to do with your T, therapy, or quitting therapy...least not from what you have written.

You often bring up an issue, you don't get the responses you're looking for, and then go to attacking yourself. You also haven't taken any advice offered by anyone. In fact, you clearly ask for advice and then do the opposite of what people advise. Then when it blows up, you come back and put yourself down. It's hard to keep picking someone back up when they keep going in circles.

Hope, none of us want to see you in pain. We see your cycles, try to point them out, but you still do it. How can we help?
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Old Sep 11, 2017, 08:41 AM
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I will just quit talking about it. I'm sorry everyone.
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Old Sep 11, 2017, 10:22 AM
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Well I agree it sometimes may be hard to figure out what it is that you might be looking for by posting here, I completely disagree that someone has to change in the timeline imposed upon them by anonymous other posters to a forum. I wouldn't let other posters' impatience at me change what I wanted to post. I find the idea that because someone believes they've given good advice it is then time to blame the other person for not taking it to be a bit misplaced.

If everyone could just stop and act rationally every time someone else became impatient, there would be no Shakespearean comedies or French farce. Or to me something that is incredibly repetitive and painful to listen to like improvisational jazz.
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Old Sep 11, 2017, 11:06 AM
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Thanks stopdog for your post.

I think I come here for support. I don't have a family to understand and talk about things with.

The support is mainly what I need.
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Old Sep 11, 2017, 12:14 PM
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And I guess I can't believe that the pharmacist said that we can keep in touch because I have low self esteem so I was surprised when he said yes.
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Old Sep 11, 2017, 01:07 PM
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" I find the idea that because someone believes they've given good advice it is then time to blame the other person for not taking it to be a bit misplaced." stopdog

Yes. This drives me crazy. If I ask for help I take suggestions under advisement--doesn't mean I don't appreciate the advice just because I decide to do something different or nothing at all.
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Old Sep 11, 2017, 01:34 PM
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And I guess I can't believe that the pharmacist said that we can keep in touch because I have low self esteem so I was surprised when he said yes.
i am confused by this, because how would you stay in touch with a pharmacist if you don't use that pharmacy anymore? like you will just call and talk to him? not about medications?
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Old Sep 11, 2017, 03:02 PM
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I'm not sure how we'd stay in touch but he said that we could.
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Old Sep 11, 2017, 03:14 PM
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" I find the idea that because someone believes they've given good advice it is then time to blame the other person for not taking it to be a bit misplaced." stopdog

Yes. This drives me crazy. If I ask for help I take suggestions under advisement--doesn't mean I don't appreciate the advice just because I decide to do something different or nothing at all.
Yes, my former best friend and I once got in a big fight because she said she was giving me all this advice and I wasn't taking it...
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Old Sep 13, 2017, 01:03 AM
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I do listen to everyone's suggestions but ultimately I do what I feel is right for me. That doesn't mean that I don't appreciate everyone's advice. I know everyone wants what is best for me and you all hate to see me in pain.
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Old Sep 13, 2017, 01:33 AM
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Hope,

Wanting outside contact isn't wrong. Neither is wanting hugs.

But contacting T via email/text/calls over every little thing when new in the relationship is a boundary issue.

I understand how not getting a reply within a certain time triggers abandonment or "they don't care" feelings and anxiety.

However relationships do take time to grow. And I suspect you're coming across as being "regularly in crisis" / high need right off the bat to these Ts. Not all Ts can handle that.

In my country, such clients do better if they've a case manager and other support people like a social worker in place other than just their psychotherapist and psychiatrist. They're also encouraged to use "warm lines" and walk in centers. The there's peer support workers which are fellow peers trained, and support groups one can try to find.

We all need a support NETWORK, not just one support person. And yew it sucks you can't talk to your family and feel so alone with such chronic stress issues like being a caregiver.

Did these Ts ever discuss boundaries in explicit and specific ways? Not just "yes you can email/text" but like "Yes you can send up to two emails each day. We'll have a discussion if you're going over the limit".

For example, I can text my T daily and her boundaries are:
» She won't reply
» She won't read right away
» I shouldn't be sending an excessive amount of texts, eg "50 messages every day"

I know people have suggested DBT to you before and you've financial issues...however I do believe a proper DBT program could really help you. It offers weekly sessions, with crisis phone calls, and I think group therapy sessions too.
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Old Sep 13, 2017, 08:42 PM
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Um, just so I'm understood, you don't have to take my advice as you know your situation best.
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