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Old Dec 09, 2017, 04:16 PM
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Is there any case study of psychotherapy going wrong?
That doesn't include sexual abuse.

So what I mean by that is.
Is there study of a thearpist that been emotionally abusive towards the client or made the symptoms worse for the client. So for example you have increase suicidal thoughts, self harm and attempts to end your life.
Also your health due to the high stress of psychotherapy you end up getting sick frequently.
Lets put it this way you are in tge same postion as you were when you first started but a lot worse in the head/ mind.

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Old Dec 09, 2017, 05:03 PM
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Who should have been writing up that case study? The abusive therapist?
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Old Dec 09, 2017, 06:00 PM
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Who should have been writing up that case study? The abusive therapist?
Huh? No of course not.
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Old Dec 10, 2017, 12:34 AM
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Huh? No of course not.
But then who should have written it? The patient? Or someone completely unrelated who has no first-hand knowledge what happened in the session?
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Old Dec 10, 2017, 04:32 AM
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I remember reading a book about different therapy techniques that have now been debunked (e.g. holding therapy), but I can't recall the title of the book and it sounds like that's not what you're looking for anyway.

There might be some case studies in this book?

https://www.amazon.com/Psychology-Go.../dp/1627345280
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Old Dec 10, 2017, 04:35 AM
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Actually, this book looks more promising: https://www.amazon.com/Analysis-Fail...+Psychotherapy
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Old Dec 10, 2017, 06:39 AM
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I think there are many people on here who have experienced therapy going wrong. I think the therapists are probably usually oblivious, as yours probably is. I'm sorry to hear that it has happened to you as well.
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Old Dec 10, 2017, 08:10 AM
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This book is good https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/15391...eRL&ref=plSrch

Have you thought about contacting TELL? You might find it useful to talk to them TELL: Therapy Exploitation Link Line
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Old Dec 10, 2017, 01:02 PM
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Yeah, I read a book of therapist mistakes stories gathered together by a prominent (or at least prolific) therapist/author. It turns out that most of their "mistakes" were that they were too conscientious or too giving.
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Old Dec 10, 2017, 01:08 PM
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Ooh! Not what you were looking for - but there was a study about how therapists are pretty clueless about when their patients are getting worse. They just don't see it. They don't understand why/when people are being "social" and saying, "I'm fine! You're doing a great job!" but actually falling apart.

The article was about how using tests, particularly computerized surveys, to get an ongoing reading of how the patient is functioning - because people are more likely to answer honestly when the computer asks how depressed they are, rather than a therapist asking face-to-face.

The study showed that most therapists *think* they're awesome at this, and don't see the need for testing - but outcomes are much improved (less dropouts, less falling out, and less suicide!) when they actually use the tests.

That's all from memory of the article, but here's the article if you want to check it out:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...t-know/517797/
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Old Dec 10, 2017, 03:49 PM
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I doubt there is much literature from those people on it. They never take responsibility if things go horribly awry - they blame the client for doing it wrong.
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Old Dec 10, 2017, 06:26 PM
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Yeah, I read a book of therapist mistakes stories gathered together by a prominent (or at least prolific) therapist/author. It turns out that most of their "mistakes" were that they were too conscientious or too giving.
This is the kinda thing that makes me glad i happened into computer programming. Theres no arguing with computers as to whether something is right or wrong. Its very Columbo - the computer is always coming back with "oh yeah, just one more thing...!"
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Old Dec 10, 2017, 07:52 PM
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Yeah, I read a book of therapist mistakes stories gathered together by a prominent (or at least prolific) therapist/author. It turns out that most of their "mistakes" were that they were too conscientious or too giving.
It’s like that classic job interview question:

“What is your greatest weakness?”
“I’m too much of a perfectionist.”
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Old Dec 10, 2017, 08:48 PM
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It’s like that classic job interview question:

“What is your greatest weakness?”
“I’m too much of a perfectionist.”
"I care too much" sort of crap
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Old Dec 11, 2017, 01:52 PM
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The few case studies I read are concerned with analyzing the dynamic as opposed to residual effects on the client. Someone at TELL suggested I read the books about sexual abuse, explaining the exploitation's core was the dynamic surrounding the sex as much as the act itself.

Two books then: Penfold, PS., Sexual Abuse by Health Professionals: A Personal Search for Meaning and Healing.

Plasil, E., Therapist: The Shocking Autobiography of a Woman Sexually Exploited by her Analyst.

From this list. http://www.therapyabuse.org/RS_sugreadings.htm

On power:
Dorpat, TL., Gaslighting, the Double Whammy, Interrogation, and Other Methods of Covert Control in Psychotherapy and Analysis.

UK books , hard to get:
Bates, Shouldn't I be feeling better by now (an anthology)

Sands, Falling for Therapy (though by a patient, written in professional style, and a slog. But I thought insightful.

Others that should be available:
Dineen, Dr. Tana Manufacturing Victims, What the Psychology Industry Is Doing to People.

Dorothy Tennov Psychotherapy: the Hazardous Cure

Striano, Judi: Can Psychotherapists Hurt You?

Used books sources include alibris, addall and abebooks as well as amazon.

Book and ebook Therapy Beyond Modernity Richard House, discusses three client books about harmful therapy. This professional book also is a slog.
https://books.google.com/books?id=9L0qyJ0yzq0C

I found reading/viewing cult accounts both frightening and helpful.

My blog linked below is an attempt at my describing emotional exploitation. It has elicited comments for 7 years now.

I found it most helpful to demote the therapist from his elevated status and see him as a flawed, needy, defensive human. As painful as it was, I had to look at how I was duped. I had to hold my own narrative, as opposed to the therapists' "authoritative" ones. I also looked at how the framework of therapy primed both of us for our delusional thinking.

After my destructive therapy life's demands and a necessary job move probably saved me from a downward spiral. A couple of friends helped my perspective. Wishing you all the best.




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