[okiedokie]

This DBT group is gonna kill me! The facilitator called me and apologized and asked if I would please come back. Apparently, he is very good at what he teaches, because I went. He publicly thanked me for being there and got tears in his eyes. Perhaps genuine. Or not. I dunno.

I'm not at all comfortable with the "me, me, it's all about me" focus. Anyone know that Toby Keith song?

The way I was raised and have lived my entire life is antithetic to DBT. I'm wondering if you can teach an old dog new tricks.

It's teaches that one's goal should be to be "effective" in one's relationships. What about sincere?! "Mindfully lying" is ok. What about honesty?! Get, gain, keep. Where in there is giving, caring about, and helping others?

And ridding oneself of shame. Well, how many Hail Marys is enough?

I'm very confused...It sort of feels a little on the cultish side *giggle* Did I just join a cult?!!!

Okie

[Perna]

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It's teaches that one's goal should be to be "effective" in one's relationships. What about sincere?! "Mindfully lying" is ok. What about honesty?! Get, gain, keep. Where in there is giving, caring about, and helping others?

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You should ask your tearful leader these questions :-) "Get, gain, keep" is what he's practicing by getting you to come back? Not quite a cult I don't think. Maybe you could do your take on things, "effectively sincere?" :-)

I would try to "separate" the behavior from the feelings about the behavior? I think behavior therapy is teaching about "doing" rather than the feelings, or even thoughts, that go with the doing. Just a different emphasis that can help if one is "intellectual" or "emotional" and balance one a bit better?