[Lemoncake]

Welcome to the couch, old and new! A place to hang out - sometimes you get immediate feedback, sometimes you don't.

Shouting, "Cool Whip" tends to bring others out from between the cushions if you're feeling lonely.

This is a chatty thread. All are welcome. We're kind of psychologically oriented, sometimes. We try to be supportive. At times we discuss what that means.

It’s a place to plop down on the couch when you come home from work or wherever, or wake up in the middle of the night, or check in at lunch, rant a bit or not, and be among friends.

We advise you not to drink or drug and text your therapist ("T") - we speak from experience.

Sometimes the thread moves fast and you might get overlooked; sometimes it moves slowly and all you hear are crickets. Sometimes you get hugged or thanked pages later. So if it's a bigger question, you might want to start a new thread.

Grab a cushion, a spot on the floor, or an armchair in the corner and make yourselves comfy!

I have the song by James Bay playing.

[Lemoncake]

Originally Posted by ChickenNoodleSoup

I decided to cook meal worms and crickets yesterday. They taste fine straight from the package, and the directions said you could use them instead of ground meat.

Have to say spaghetti sauce with worms in it looks weird, tastes okayish but I'd never cook that again... the worms wiggled around while you ate it too, was kind of repulsive.

Where did you buy them from?

Not something I'd be brave enough to try.

[unaluna]

Originally Posted by Lemoncake

Where did you buy them from?
Not something I'd be brave enough to try.

Are humans supposed to eat those?

[ChickenNoodleSoup]

Originally Posted by Lemoncake

Where did you buy them from?

Not something I'd be brave enough to try.

They just started being legal to sell a few months ago in Switzerland, now there's small bags of crickets, grasshoppers and meals worms that you can buy in every normal supermarket.

[ChickenNoodleSoup]

Originally Posted by unaluna

Are humans supposed to eat those?

They are for human consumption. They don't really taste like a whole lot, so it's okay. Looks and feels a bit weird, but if you don't think about it it's fine.

Apparently it's common in Asia to eat bugs. They contain a lot of protein and vitamins, so I thought I'd give it a try.

[LonesomeTonight]

So how do you handle it if you've maybe learned something about your T's beliefs, and it's something you want to ask them about. But to do that, you'd have to admit to reading more than you'd admitted to reading, and, knowing my T, he'd get all of his own emotions involved in that, which could potentially lead to a rupture, and I don't want that right now? It's a belief that would make me sort of doubt his intelligence (not really a political thing, to clarify). Plus I doubt he'd admit to feeling one way or the other anyway. And be all "boundaries," but this is something that's affecting how I think about him. Stupid Facebook... And me letting myself go down a bit of a rabbit hole...

Or do I just do my best to put it out of my mind and proceed with therapy as normal?

[Lemoncake]

Originally Posted by unaluna

Are humans supposed to eat those?

Yup. I only know this because Mrs Twit decides to cook a plate of worms with spaghetti for Mr twit.

[SlumberKitty]

Originally Posted by LonesomeTonight

So how do you handle it if you've maybe learned something about your T's beliefs, and it's something you want to ask them about. But to do that, you'd have to admit to reading more than you'd admitted to reading, and, knowing my T, he'd get all of his own emotions involved in that, which could potentially lead to a rupture, and I don't want that right now? It's a belief that would make me sort of doubt his intelligence (not really a political thing, to clarify). Plus I doubt he'd admit to feeling one way or the other anyway. And be all "boundaries," but this is something that's affecting how I think about him. Stupid Facebook... And me letting myself go down a bit of a rabbit hole...

Or do I just do my best to put it out of my mind and proceed with therapy as normal?

I have a feeling if I were to ask my T what do you believe about X, they wouldn't tell me. It would be like, "Let's explore why you want to know." I don't know if that is how your T would be, but that has been my experience. HUGS Kit

[NP_Complete]

Originally Posted by LonesomeTonight

So how do you handle it if you've maybe learned something about your T's beliefs, and it's something you want to ask them about. But to do that, you'd have to admit to reading more than you'd admitted to reading, and, knowing my T, he'd get all of his own emotions involved in that, which could potentially lead to a rupture, and I don't want that right now? It's a belief that would make me sort of doubt his intelligence (not really a political thing, to clarify). Plus I doubt he'd admit to feeling one way or the other anyway. And be all "boundaries," but this is something that's affecting how I think about him. Stupid Facebook... And me letting myself go down a bit of a rabbit hole...

Or do I just do my best to put it out of my mind and proceed with therapy as normal?

Maybe it's only his wife who believes this thing?

[atisketatasket]

Originally Posted by LonesomeTonight

Or do I just do my best to put it out of my mind and proceed with therapy as normal?

This. I question Info’s intelligence all the time and I’m still her client.

I question her intelligence about her own discipline, of course, not about religion or politics. I know we differ on one very contentious political issue, but it’s an opinion she has a right to hold and I assume has thought about, so I don’t see that as a question of intelligence.

[ChickenNoodleSoup]

Originally Posted by LonesomeTonight

So how do you handle it if you've maybe learned something about your T's beliefs, and it's something you want to ask them about. But to do that, you'd have to admit to reading more than you'd admitted to reading, and, knowing my T, he'd get all of his own emotions involved in that, which could potentially lead to a rupture, and I don't want that right now? It's a belief that would make me sort of doubt his intelligence (not really a political thing, to clarify). Plus I doubt he'd admit to feeling one way or the other anyway. And be all "boundaries," but this is something that's affecting how I think about him. Stupid Facebook... And me letting myself go down a bit of a rabbit hole...

Or do I just do my best to put it out of my mind and proceed with therapy as normal?

I personally couldn't just not tell him. It'd constantly pop into my head and mess with the relationship. I think if I told my T that I read something of him or his family, he'd not deny it. But I know that's hard to do since it's kind of an intrusion and your T might get emotional and all that.

If you CAN just ignore it, then that's of course okay, but if it constantly comes up for you again, then maybe it's better to discuss it in some way or another. Probably with some careful thinking about how to best word it and all that.

[unaluna]

LT - Thats kinda what brought me to PC to begin with! It was huge! Altho i had already invested a few more years, but my years may not equal your years (i am notoriously slow).

I consulted with a few people (drs, ts) and the concensus was, did i think i could still work with him, that he could still help me, outside of this one not minor character fault, imo. I decided yes, but YMMV.

Oh, and we talked about it, for like a week, but that was because it was his fault / responsibility it was brought to my attention. So theres that too. Everything was out in the open.

[Lemoncake]

Originally Posted by LonesomeTonight

So how do you handle it if you've maybe learned something about your T's beliefs, and it's something you want to ask them about. But to do that, you'd have to admit to reading more than you'd admitted to reading, and, knowing my T, he'd get all of his own emotions involved in that, which could potentially lead to a rupture, and I don't want that right now? It's a belief that would make me sort of doubt his intelligence (not really a political thing, to clarify). Plus I doubt he'd admit to feeling one way or the other anyway. And be all "boundaries," but this is something that's affecting how I think about him. Stupid Facebook... And me letting myself go down a bit of a rabbit hole...

Or do I just do my best to put it out of my mind and proceed with therapy as normal?

Personally If it was bothering me, I'd bring it up. Nobody really wants a rupture, but where you are right now do you feel you like you could cope with a fallout or would it be something that would really destabilize you?

[ScarletPimpernel]

Originally Posted by LonesomeTonight

So how do you handle it if you've maybe learned something about your T's beliefs, and it's something you want to ask them about. But to do that, you'd have to admit to reading more than you'd admitted to reading, and, knowing my T, he'd get all of his own emotions involved in that, which could potentially lead to a rupture, and I don't want that right now? It's a belief that would make me sort of doubt his intelligence (not really a political thing, to clarify). Plus I doubt he'd admit to feeling one way or the other anyway. And be all "boundaries," but this is something that's affecting how I think about him. Stupid Facebook... And me letting myself go down a bit of a rabbit hole...

Or do I just do my best to put it out of my mind and proceed with therapy as normal?

My T wouldn't confirm or deny any beliefs she has. I think you might not want to bring this up especially if the only thing you'll get out of it is a possible rupture. However, you seem like me in the sense that I tell my T everything. If that's true, then I would work on how to say it so it's least likely to cause a rupture.

[unaluna]

Originally Posted by Lemoncake

Yup. I only know this because Mrs Twit decides to cook a plate of worms with spaghetti for Mr twit.

I dont even want to know if those are real people!!!

[LonesomeTonight]

Originally Posted by Lemoncake

Personally If it was bothering me, I'd bring it up. Nobody really wants a rupture, but where you are right now do you feel you like you could cope with a fallout or would it be something that would really destabilize you?

The problem is, I feel like I've been doing really well the past few weeks. And I think my relationship with T has been really good the past couple months. So I'm not sure I want to screw that up right now. I mean...I could probably sort of bring it up based on the post his wife made that he knows I saw, but I'm sure he could explain that away. I may just need to see how I feel when I see him and when we're talking. I mean, I suppose I could say, "So I looked at a few past posts then realized what I was doing was wrong and stopped. And emailed you to sort of save me from myself."

[LonesomeTonight]

Originally Posted by ScarletPimpernel

My T wouldn't confirm or deny any beliefs she has. I think you might not want to bring this up especially if the only thing you'll get out of it is a possible rupture. However, you seem like me in the sense that I tell my T everything. If that's true, then I would work on how to say it so it's least likely to cause a rupture.

True, he hasn't even confirmed his religion, which seriously isn't a big deal to me at all. I basically mentioned his name to my H when I first started seeing him, and he was like "Oh, he's Jewish." Which again, doesn't matter to me--I'm essentially Christian, but ex-MC to whom I was really attached was Jewish (and brought it up all the time).

And yeah, I'll try to think about how to share if I feel I need to.

[Siennasays]

Originally Posted by LonesomeTonight

So how do you handle it if you've maybe learned something about your T's beliefs, and it's something you want to ask them about. But to do that, you'd have to admit to reading more than you'd admitted to reading, and, knowing my T, he'd get all of his own emotions involved in that, which could potentially lead to a rupture, and I don't want that right now? It's a belief that would make me sort of doubt his intelligence (not really a political thing, to clarify). Plus I doubt he'd admit to feeling one way or the other anyway. And be all "boundaries," but this is something that's affecting how I think about him. Stupid Facebook... And me letting myself go down a bit of a rabbit hole...

Or do I just do my best to put it out of my mind and proceed with therapy as normal?

I assume I know what you're talking about...and, I'd leave it. What will you get from the discussion? Maybe it is his wife who has the belief and he has gone with it. Or maybe he also believes it. Which, I do tend to doubt the intelligence of those who make that decision, but it doesn't affect his intelligence as a T.
If he also holds the belief, what is discussing it with him going to accomplish? I assume neither of you will different on your stance. I would just silently judge him.

And if I assumed wrong on the topic altogether, just ignore me 😂

Unaluna, you look like Freddy Krueger in your thumbnail photo on my phone. You strike me as the kind of woman who might appreciate that.

[Lemoncake]

Originally Posted by unaluna

I dont even want to know if those are real people!!!

They're characters from the book the twits by Roald Dahl.

It's my third favourite book by him. It has this one quote i really like:

A person who has good thoughts cannot ever be ugly. You can have a wonky nose and a crooked mouth and a double chin and stick-out teeth, but if you have good thoughts it will shine out of your face like sunbeams and you will always look lovely.”

[unaluna]

Originally Posted by SorryOozit

Unaluna, you look like Freddy Krueger in your thumbnail photo on my phone. You strike me as the kind of woman who might appreciate that.

Ditto, my dear!

[LonesomeTonight]

Originally Posted by Siennasays

I assume I know what you're talking about...and, I'd leave it. What will you get from the discussion? Maybe it is his wife who has the belief and he has gone with it. Or maybe he also believes it. Which, I do tend to doubt the intelligence of those who make that decision, but it doesn't affect his intelligence as a T.
If he also holds the belief, what is discussing it with him going to accomplish? I assume neither of you will different on your stance. I would just silently judge him.

And if I assumed wrong on the topic altogether, just ignore me 😂

PMed you (as I'm curious if you guessed correctly)

You're probably right that silently judging might be the best option...

[stopdog]

I have never assumed therapists in general were all that intelligent to begin with. Whatever personal beliefs they held were of no concern of mine. I was always amused when they told me what they did in any given situation - like I cared or was going to do something or not because it was what the therapist did or did not do.

Originally Posted by unaluna

Ditto, my dear!

Of course. I told you by way of a chat-up line!

[stopdog]

I am playing around with a few different brands of true wireless earbuds. I have some air pods but I don't find them super comfortable or safe for walking the dogs.
I seem to have an oddly shaped right ear - all the buds fit my left ear just fine but I have challenges with the right one.
I am finding the sol republic ones and the jabras to be the best sound-wise. But I tend to use them mostly for podcasts and phone calls rather than music.