Weird types of therapy

Echos Myron redux · Jan 14, 2019, 10:08 AM

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from the link: "As of 2012, all of my clients are men" NO ****. And this idea that men are the majority in crisis, lol please. They just want to see your boobs and jerk off, lady. This is clearly some cam girl/prostitution masquerading as therapy. The very fact that this is even a thing shows that if you have a good pitch, you can sell anything as "therapy". Says it all really.

Totally agree. And I read on her website that Dr John, owner of this site gave her a platform to talk about what she does. I would question the ethics of anyone who thinks it's appropriate to advertise (legitimise) and embolden someone claiming to offer therapy who openly admits she isn't a qualified therapist. And who essentially just

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takes her clothes off while men masturbate

It's just beyond belief.

stopdog · Jan 14, 2019, 10:17 AM

All therapy is just made up ****. Sometimes some things help some people. For me, there is no difference in any of these. Some I might have have tried and some I would not. But I don't see any of them as being more or less legitimate therapy than any others.

atisketatasket · Jan 14, 2019, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Echos Myron redux

Totally agree. And I read on her website that Dr John, owner of this site gave her a platform to talk about what she does. I would question the ethics of anyone who thinks it's appropriate to advertise (legitimise) and embolden someone claiming to offer therapy who openly admits she isn't a qualified therapist. And who essentially just

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takes her clothes off while men masturbate

It's just beyond belief.

Since you’re concerned about this, why don’t you PM him and ask for clarification? He is open to questions from members.

Echos Myron redux · Jan 14, 2019, 10:25 AM

I have no problem with people doing what the find helpful, whether it be the services she offers or something different. What object to is the dishonesty inherent in labelling what she does talking therapy. I had to get deep into the small print to discover she's not qualified in any way.

Whatever you think of therapy, and I agree it's as made up as the next thing, there are definite expectations about what it is and isn't, in the minds of the consumers, and in the definitions provided by the APA. One such expectation is that there is somebody to complain to should harm occur, another is that the therapist will have a certain standard of training.

Whatever you think of therapy, therapy this ain't. And in my view to present it as such is misleading, dishonest and potentially harmful.

Echos Myron redux · Jan 14, 2019, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by atisketatasket

Since you’re concerned about this, why don’t you PM him and ask for clarification? He is open to questions from members.

I have had interactions with him before and I don't have a particular desire to confront him on this. I am just expressing my opinion on what I read, not expressing my desire to become an investigative journalist.

stopdog · Jan 14, 2019, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Echos Myron redux

I have no problem with people doing what the find helpful, whether it be the services she offers or something different. What object to is the dishonesty inherent in labelling what she does talking therapy. I had to get deep into the small print to discover she's not qualified in any way.

Whatever you think of therapy, and I agree it's as made up as the next thing, there are definite expectations about what it is and isn't, in the minds of the consumers, and in the definitions provided by the APA. One such expectation is that there is somebody to complain to should harm occur, another is that the therapist will have a certain standard of training.

Whatever you think of therapy, therapy this ain't. And in my view to present it as such is misleading, dishonest and potentially harmful.

I disagree. I was a consumer and this sort of stuff was no more or less in my mind than anything else about therapy other than it is not the sort of therapy I would have used. My expectations about what it was or was not were certainly not what I ended up seeing in the ones I tried. I still don't know what the therapists thought they were doing or what they expected to be going on or what I was paying them for in their minds. I am pretty certain what I believed I was paying them for and what they thought they were getting paid for were two different things. I don't see the thing you find objectionable as not being a sort of therapy.

Jan 14, 2019, 10:34 AM

She doesn't concern me the slightest as who would go to her for therapy and two she charges $400 an hour. More concerning are therapists who market for reparenting that reaches vulnerable populations, even the way attachment is framed as that can really mess people up.

I didn't mean to stir up controversy-it seemed to be a good addition to this thread. Maybe a new thread could be started if it's redirecting the focus.

stopdog · Jan 14, 2019, 10:37 AM

Anything called therapy can really mess people up it seems. A person sitting in an empty room who never speaks beyond "mmhmm" can mess some people up.

Jan 14, 2019, 11:08 AM

I personally see much more potential harm behind many Ts that claim to be super ethical and professional (and they are not) than in what is obviously, openly outrageous.

Albatross2008 · Jan 14, 2019, 11:21 AM

How about Captain Smek's bubble wrap therapy?

(sorry, image didn't work)

atisketatasket · Jan 14, 2019, 11:26 AM

I am reminded of "Fried Green Tomatoes at the Whistle-Stop Café," where Kathy Bates goes to a liberation-therapy-type class where women squat over mirrors looking at their nether regions.

Anne2.0 · Jan 14, 2019, 11:49 AM

Anyone can call themselves a therapist and the sex therapy lady doesn't claim to be licensed, but she does claim she is focused on therapeutic healing for her clients, and claims they get better. I don't see any reason to doubt that she has helped these men and delivers what she promises, otherwise the clients would be chasing her and they seem like the kind of clients who can sue or otherwise engage the consumer fraud resources if they needed to. I would not see an unlicensed therapist but I don't see any problems if someone else does, and the argument that people might get hurt by her therapy doesn't seem any more compelling than people being hurt by licensed therapists. The possibility of harm doesn't overcome a person's right (in America) to run a business that is not against the law or fraudulent or holding themselves out to be something they are not. She can practice whatever it is she does and so can licensed therapists, and if people are harmed, they have options that may compensate them for that harm.

Jan 14, 2019, 12:07 PM

There are also massage therapists of all kinds... or escorts who advertise to be the client's girlfriend, confidant, best friend, whatnot. Relaxation and pleasant company is pretty therapeutic after all.

stopdog · Jan 14, 2019, 12:10 PM

Hairdressers and Bartenders are also known for it.

Jan 14, 2019, 01:03 PM

There are also what they call "sober companions" for recovering addicts and some are licensed counselors or therapists:
Sober companion - Wikipedia

So for sex addicts, perhaps such a sober companion would perhaps do the opposite of what the naked T does... somehow. I don't know about sex but when I was freshly sober, I would have paid quite a decent amount if someone could have just magically but reliably erased my cravings. People did not make it happen unfortunately.

precaryous · Jan 14, 2019, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by toomanycats

There was a type of therapy back in the 60s - I saw a documentary on it - that I always wished I could experience. It was documented in a documentary called "Warrendale" (titled after the facility itself).

I imagine a lot of people would be horrified by the way they did therapy, but I freaking long for it.... I'm a weirdo.

A lot of physical contact and re-parenting between therapists & patients, who were children.

Interesting.
I think I found the documentary, “Warrendale,” on YouTube.
Have not watched it yet:

And, “Inside Warrendale”.

There’s also a news article
Historicist: Warrendale, a Mental Health Treatment Centre for Children

And a website for staff and residents of the subsequent ”Browndale”.
Browndale

susannahsays · Jan 14, 2019, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by atisketatasket

I am reminded of "Fried Green Tomatoes at the Whistle-Stop Café," where Kathy Bates goes to a liberation-therapy-type class where women squat over mirrors looking at their nether regions.

There's actually a tv show where women do this. I forget what it's called...

Jan 14, 2019, 02:55 PM

Though more expansive and inclusive than psychotherapy, there is one long list here Types of Medical Therapy

Interesting finds:

Salt therapy
Greyhound therapy
Aquarium therapy
Rescue therapy
Extracorporeal shockwave therapy

Chinese food therapy

ArtleyWilkins · Jan 14, 2019, 03:01 PM

So, out of curiosity i googled "greyhound therapy" assuming it had something to do with dogs.

Nope. It's not therapy at all. It was basically the practice of buying ticket for troublesome clients and putting them on a Greyhound bus to get rid of them. YIKES!

Jan 14, 2019, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ArtleyWilkins

So, out of curiosity i googled "greyhound therapy" assuming it had something to do with dogs.

Nope. It's not therapy at all. It was basically the practice of buying ticket for troublesome clients and putting them on a Greyhound bus to get rid of them. YIKES!

Haha... Don't tell my T about that one. She'll send me on a trip I'm sure.

mcl6136 · Jan 14, 2019, 05:33 PM

How about the practice of journeying beyond the boundaries of our known world into the spirit world?

That's what I was doing before my T disappeared into another world, neglecting to tell me when she might reappear or offering referrals to other spirit guides.

The more perspective I get...the weirder it seems.

Oh. I forgot to mention that she wanted to bill my insurance company for sessions conducted without my participation from the World Beyond. And when she returned to town, she wanted to pick up where she left off....five months later.

Out There · Jan 14, 2019, 06:33 PM

Yes , unfortunately I've just had dealings with someone who has lost touch with reality and I don't know what planet he's on.....

Jan 14, 2019, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mcl6136

I forgot to mention that she wanted to bill my insurance company for sessions conducted without my participation from the World Beyond. And when she returned to town, she wanted to pick up where she left off....five months later.

Holy crap! I did see a couple Ts advertising quite explicitly that they are deeply spiritually connected and travel to other worlds. But not that they conduct telepathic sessions or talk to spirits on behalf of the client and charge the insurer for their private trips or whatever they are.

Unfortunately it is not that uncommon that Ts lose touch with reality, from what I have seen.

susannahsays · Jan 14, 2019, 09:01 PM

The therapist actually brought up goat yoga today. She wasn't suggesting it or anything.

Jan 14, 2019, 10:19 PM

One of the other Ts in my Ts group has a cool old therapy dog that will sit with you during your sessions if you want. I can imagine that might be really stress relieving and comforting.

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