Couch 193: The Aurora Borealis Couch

stopdog · Apr 16, 2019 at 11:41 AM

Why do you want people punished more? How would it help you or them? There are many reasons why people do things. And most, in my experience as a public defender, are not because of innate badness.
Is Javert really the hero?

I was never of prosecutorial bent.

Jersey 4 · Apr 16, 2019 at 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by unaluna

Yeah but the gf and the vet are testifying against him. And paying the money back, "supposably".

That was part of their deal to plead guilty.

UnderRugSwept · Apr 16, 2019 at 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by unaluna

Ive been watching you tube makeovers. So okay maybe theres some photoshopping going on, but makeup is amazing.

Who have you been watching?

For some beauty/fun & entertainment (oh, and nail art), I recommend Simply Nailogical (Cristine...she's into everything halo) and Safiya Nygaard.

Simply Nailogical: YouTube

Her second page, Simply Not Logical: YouTube

Safiya: YouTube

Simply Nailogical is my bff I will never meet, ha.

SlumberKitty · Apr 16, 2019 at 11:43 AM

Even though I'm feeling better than yesterday, I'm still having some SUI thoughts. I wish I would have been able to see T yesterday. HUGS Kit

stopdog · Apr 16, 2019 at 11:45 AM

Surely paying the money back is all that is needed.

Apr 16, 2019 at 11:47 AM

I hadn't heard about that gofundme thing, I seldom pay attention to the news.

Jersey 4 · Apr 16, 2019 at 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by stopdog

Why do you want people punished more? How would it help you or them? There are many reasons why people do things. And most, in my experience as a public defender, are not because of innate badness.
Is Javert really the hero?

I was never of prosecutorial bent.

I don’t know that jail is the answer. I’m not sure what I wanted to see happen. I mean-they planned the whole thing from the get go and the couple went on vacations and such and used up all the money.

Jersey 4 · Apr 16, 2019 at 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ArtieSwimsOn

I hadn't heard about that gofundme thing, I seldom pay attention to the news.

I only know so much about it because it’s local.

Jersey 4 · Apr 16, 2019 at 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by stopdog

Surely paying the money back is all that is needed.

GoFundMe refunded everyone who donated after they discovered the scam. I think part of their plea deal is to pay restitution. I don’t know what the amount is.

unaluna · Apr 16, 2019 at 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jersey 4

I only know so much about it because it’s local.

It was all over the news! Artie, dont you google??!

I am madder about lori loughlin. Her defense now is, "no, i REALLY AM THAT STUPID!!

"

NP_Complete · Apr 16, 2019 at 12:03 PM

Just another thought, but I'm sure with the amount of money involved they were charged with felonies. Having a felony in this country is almost like having a life sentence. Getting a job will be difficult for these people. Depending on where they live, they will lose the right to vote. This will follow them around until they die. I'm not defending what they did, but just know that the punishment they receive is more than just the jail time they get.

Apr 16, 2019 at 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by unaluna

It was all over the news! Artie, dont you google??!

I am madder about lori loughlin. Her defense now is, "no, i REALLY AM THAT STUPID!!

"

What did Lori laughlin do? I'm working I can't be bothered to Google

atisketatasket · Apr 16, 2019 at 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ArtieSwimsOn

What did Lori laughlin do? I'm working I can't be bothered to Google

It’s been a huge story for weeks.

stopdog · 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by unaluna

I am madder about lori loughlin. Her defense now is, "no, i REALLY AM THAT STUPID!! "

This has been going since the beginning of time - and not just in universities. People have bought judgeships by donations to political campaigns and other methods, set their children up by joining secret societies, bought them military commissions, priesthoods, and so on - again since forever.
Do you really think that merit is what has gotten 99% of people into any elite university ever? The idea of an elite university is there mostly to perpetuate what these guys want to set up - not that the education is that many times better than at most other institutions. So even those who are worked up about not getting in while someone else did is mostly worked up over perceived eliteness. Is that a worthy trait really?
This is, to me, like getting all worked up about the fact that athletes try to use substances to enhance performance. Lane Armstrong and the deep (and to me incomprehensible) sense of betrayal some fans seemed to feel.
Why not just leave them to it and go on with your life? How does it really have any bearing on anyone else?

stopdog · 12:31 PM

Ps. and I am not just saying those things because of all the times I have had to serve on admissions committees and not once was I offered $150,000.
Or even .15 cents.

Jersey 4 · Apr 16, 2019 at 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by unaluna

It was all over the news! Artie, dont you google??!

I am madder about lori loughlin. Her defense now is, "no, i REALLY AM THAT STUPID!!

"

NP_Complete · Apr 16, 2019 at 12:29 PM

And 4 years is more time than my husband got for setting our house on fire.

Jersey 4 · Apr 16, 2019 at 12:47 PM

I had a little break this afternoon. Now it’s back to work. Housework is still happening as well. I’m hoping within a month everything should go back to normal. Well, whatever normal is.

unaluna · Apr 16, 2019 at 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by stopdog

Ps. and I am not just saying those things because of all the times I have had to serve on admissions committees and not once was I offered $150,000.
Or even .15 cents.

Dude! That must sting! No one has even mentioned these social costs.

stopdog · Apr 16, 2019 at 12:51 PM

Luckily I have no illusions or even delusions about working at an elite university.

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SlumberKitty Legendary Wise Elder Member Since Jul 2018 Location: CA Posts: 27,329 (SuperPoster!) 5 117.7k hugs given	Apr 16, 2019 at 11:43 AM #784 Even though I'm feeling better than yesterday, I'm still having some SUI thoughts. I wish I would have been able to see T yesterday. HUGS Kit __________________ Dum Spiro Spero IC XC NIKA

stopdog underdog is here Member Since Sep 2011 Location: blank Posts: 34,731 (SuperPoster!) 12 1 hugs given	Apr 16, 2019 at 11:45 AM #785 Surely paying the money back is all that is needed. __________________ Please NO @ Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live. Oscar Wilde Well Behaved Women Seldom Make History - Laurel Thatcher Ulrich Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.

Anonymous43207 Guest Posts: n/a	Apr 16, 2019 at 11:47 AM #786 I hadn't heard about that gofundme thing, I seldom pay attention to the news.

NP_Complete Grand Magnate Member Since Feb 2017 Location: the upside down Posts: 3,808 7 6,355 hugs given	Apr 16, 2019 at 12:29 PM #797 And 4 years is more time than my husband got for setting our house on fire.

Jersey 4 Poohbah Member Since Feb 2019 Location: NJ Posts: 1,162 5 1,170 hugs given	Apr 16, 2019 at 12:47 PM #798 I had a little break this afternoon. Now it’s back to work. Housework is still happening as well. I’m hoping within a month everything should go back to normal. Well, whatever normal is.

stopdog underdog is here Member Since Sep 2011 Location: blank Posts: 34,731 (SuperPoster!) 12 1 hugs given	Apr 16, 2019 at 12:51 PM #800 Luckily I have no illusions or even delusions about working at an elite university. __________________ Please NO @ Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live. Oscar Wilde Well Behaved Women Seldom Make History - Laurel Thatcher Ulrich Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.