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Old Oct 25, 2019, 06:17 PM
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That would hurt my feelings too, break rapport, and feel like an undeserved snub.

I can see from the T viewpoint, your question might actually have broken a spell, and she realized oh heck I shouldn't have brought up my other client in the first place. It shows her reflex is to be comfortable with you, and maybe she got too comfortable and talked about her other client when she usually has a rule for herself not to?

From my point of view from the client chair, it would feel very arbitrary, and kind of like a micro abuse of power, painting it like you were being nosy or breaking a boundary, when actually you were reading social signals very well and she invited you into the conversation.

I struggle with many aspects of therapy, and this is one.

Lately, my T has been taking time to deconstruct these kind of moments with me in which our realities differ while sitting in the same room alone together. It has been very helpful to our alliance, which was in ruins. Yours seems to be a good connection, and this is a rarity?

You could ask her to walk you through her sudden change from her point of view, and share that it hurt your feelings and shocked you.

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Hi, I just saw my therapist. Last week she showed me some cute crafts in her office and said, "A client I used to have made them." We talked about how adorable they are (little dolls).

This week I mentioned how I was still thinking about the creativity of the doll-maker. My T and I have often discussed Bipolar Disorder and creativity (I have BD and am an artist).

I said, "Did the client who made the dolls have bipolar disorder?" I asked specifically because I was curious if someone who made something so creative has BD like I do. My T hesitated, then said, "You know...it doesn't feel right to me to disclose that. I'm sorry...but it just doesn't feel right to me."

I am stunned and so hurt. Why did she tell me that a client made them in the first place? I feel like I never want to go back. I'm lost. What should I do? Go back to the clinic and ask to speak with her (it's very close to my home). Call? Cancel for next week and just take time away? Please, can someone offer some insight? I feel like I can't just let this go. Thanks.
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Old Oct 25, 2019, 06:23 PM
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I would be extremely upset too, and empathize with you. It is really an act of trust to be a patient, to share and work to express and learn and listen. Therapy is creative and collaborative. It hurts more , imo, to have a misattunement in therapy than in real life . Your T made a mistake imo. Now you are shaken up and sad. However, I a very sure the mistake really came from something good- that she was not on guard with you and relaxed into a topic that she probably should not have.

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I didn't post this thread for my reaction to be judged; I posted it by stating my reaction (whether anyone agreed or not) and asking for opinions on what to do considering that I was extremely upset. I did not start this post for anyone to debate how I felt.

How I feel about a situation is not helped by others judging me when my personal background is unknown, and I do not in any way find support in being told my feelings were wrong.

Thanks for the feedback. I'm feeling really shaky right now. There's no need to continue this thread.
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Old Oct 25, 2019, 10:24 PM
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That would hurt my feelings too, break rapport, and feel like an undeserved snub.

Yes, all of those - exactly.

I can see from the T viewpoint, your question might actually have broken a spell, and she realized oh heck I shouldn't have brought up my other client in the first place. It shows her reflex is to be comfortable with you, and maybe she got too comfortable and talked about her other client when she usually has a rule for herself not to?

Very insightful of you...that's exactly what she said when I spoke with her on the phone. I know she's very comfortable with me; most people are. For some reason people tend to trust me and depend upon me. Maybe because I do listen, and I listen because I do care. When I got into my 50's though, I started looking at how considerate of me those close to me are, and I came up with "not very." And that hurts.

I feel that what my therapist did was selfish and inconsiderate.

From my point of view from the client chair, it would feel very arbitrary, and kind of like a micro abuse of power, painting it like you were being nosy or breaking a boundary, when actually you were reading social signals very well and she invited you into the conversation.

Thank you for your kindness, and for understanding how I felt. I'm still beating the heck out of myself for...whatever I did wrong...but then I keep thinking don't tell me about your client then decide you said too much and cut me down when I ask about the client you were telling me about!

Yet, at the same time I cannot stop feeling ashamed and like there's something wrong with me.

I struggle with many aspects of therapy, and this is one.

So do I. A lot.

Lately, my T has been taking time to deconstruct these kind of moments with me in which our realities differ while sitting in the same room alone together. It has been very helpful to our alliance, which was in ruins. Yours seems to be a good connection, and this is a rarity?

It does sound productive, what you're doing with your therapist. "Differing realities" - good phrase.

Fortunately, yes; my therapist and I have a solidly good connection. Although I'm so burned by this one incident...the best I can hope for is that it can be useful for therapeutic work.

You could ask her to walk you through her sudden change from her point of view, and share that it hurt your feelings and shocked you.

Yes, that's what she did on the phone after the session. I called to tell her that I was very hurt and upset; she gave me a point-by-point explanation of why she said what she said, in the tone she said it.

She insisted that her response had nothing to do with me, but with her own whatever, that she hadn't meant to sound harsh. I appreciated her explanation. Still, I feel how I feel, and I hate feeling this way.
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Old Oct 25, 2019, 10:25 PM
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I would be extremely upset too, and empathize with you. It is really an act of trust to be a patient, to share and work to express and learn and listen. Therapy is creative and collaborative. It hurts more , imo, to have a misattunement in therapy than in real life . Your T made a mistake imo. Now you are shaken up and sad. However, I a very sure the mistake really came from something good- that she was not on guard with you and relaxed into a topic that she probably should not have.

Thank you again for your support and for sharing your thoughts on this with me. I am grateful.
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Old Oct 26, 2019, 04:41 AM
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It's probably already been said but I think the therapist was just expressing boundaries. Telling you one thing about a person is not then related to having to tell you more. If I was that creative person who made the dolls I would have been please you guys were praising my art and grateful to my therapist for defending my privacy but defiantly not annoyed or offended at your curiosity for asking if the patient has bipolar.
I think I have felt people favoited friends when they haven't disclosed their secretes to me so I get this feeling with your T. Sounds like you have a good relationship with tbh so I would trust that. In my experience it's not often come down to being a favoite but just having a different relationship with someone. If I think about all my friendships I like them and connect with them in different ways at different times but I don't think that creates a hierarchy.
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Old Oct 30, 2019, 08:12 AM
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My therapist and I had a productive conversation about the issue in this thread. It was excellent, in fact. Our misunderstanding has given me information about communication.

I want to thank each one of you again. You all really helped me out.
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