Couch 213: The Tulip couch

unaluna · Mar 28, 2020, 07:09 PM

And my t used to get insulted when i would say that i had done a man's job since i was 21, clearly implying that what he (and my brother) did was NOT a man's job. Cry me a river.

stopdog · Mar 28, 2020, 08:00 PM

What those people do is not a job in any sense of the word - regardless of gender

atisketatasket · Mar 28, 2020, 08:36 PM

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So basically what I have been saying all along - they become therapists because it is indoors, with little math, and no heavy lifting, and you don't have to be very smart or actually do anything and people still hand you money.

Kind of like us university professors!

stopdog · Mar 28, 2020, 08:43 PM

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Kind of like us university professors!

No - we have to read and grade - that is doing something. Which is more than therapists do.

unaluna · Mar 28, 2020, 08:49 PM

And answer to "superiors"? Thats what takes cojones. And doing it without injuring anyone.

LonesomeTonight · Mar 28, 2020, 09:04 PM

I keep thinking to myself that, with all the Covid restrictions in place, I'm no longer really living, just existing. (Maybe some would see that as the same thing, but it feels different to me.)

LonesomeTonight · Mar 28, 2020, 09:08 PM

Also, I'm really glad we got the guinea pigs, because they are serving as a distraction right now...watching two cute little furry things fight for dominance (with assorted vocalizations and movements), then getting distracted by food. Like, "I am the leader here, you must bow to my...oh, hey a carrot."

atisketatasket · Mar 28, 2020, 09:10 PM

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I keep thinking to myself that, with all the Covid restrictions in place, I'm no longer really living, just existing. (Maybe some would see that as the same thing, but it feels different to me.)

You're existing to live again.

I've decided to think of myself as Ted Williams's frozen head. Someday I'll have a body again and hit .400!

ElectricManatee · Mar 28, 2020, 09:11 PM

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I keep thinking to myself that, with all the Covid restrictions in place, I'm no longer really living, just existing. (Maybe some would see that as the same thing, but it feels different to me.)

Are there meaningful things you can do that don't require leaving the house? It sucks to not be able to go to your favorite places. Maybe you can somehow channel your inner hermit or find an engrossing project?

stopdog · 09:27 PM

Why is that? I believe there are other choices about how one views the situation that one can make. I find it rather freeing in a lot of ways. I am teaching myself to do a couple of new things. I am teaching the younger dog some tricks to keep him occupied in general (not just pandemic related - just bonding with a dog I didn't raise from a baby). We can still walk dogs and exercise outside -so I do that far away from other people. I talk to people on the phone while walking the dogs and then we have facetime gatherings at times. It has only been a couple of weeks.

LonesomeTonight · Mar 28, 2020, 09:29 PM

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Are there meaningful things you can do that don't require leaving the house? It sucks to not be able to go to your favorite places. Maybe you can somehow channel your inner hermit or find an engrossing project?

I feel like this sounds awful, but I keep thinking of how differently I'd have experienced this if it had been during the time when I was living by myself and single and childless. I wouldn't have had to put so much energy into being there for someone else. Right now, I feel I'm exerting so much energy into being there for my D, plus doing work, that I don't have much time left for anything else. If it had been just me, then I could have engaged in all sorts of things. Tonight I thought I might do an online Paint Nite or Trivia Night, but stuff going on with my D kept me from doing either of those things.

I do have the guinea pigs as something else to focus on. I suppose I feel that I have less time for things now that this is going on, as opposed to more. And much less time to myself. Which is all a struggle, being an introvert.

unaluna · Mar 28, 2020, 09:30 PM

Maybe look it as time to figure out why you are living your life this way. You are not the only one who is not ecstatic with your home life.

My dad would have been fine, my mother would have absolutely NOT!!!!!!

One time i was settin eating my favorite dinner - spag parm - at Elias Bros after work, around 8 pm, and a guy i knew from Mensa happened by and asked what i was doing. I go, im having dinner. He goes, NO, what are you DOOOOOOINGGGG? He wasnt looking for me to answer him. I was like oh okay. I always knew i was just surviving until i could get free.

LonesomeTonight · Mar 28, 2020, 09:30 PM

Ugh, I feel so whiny...

Mar 28, 2020, 09:30 PM

I am slowly building the walls to my jungle fortress i have planted heliconias along the back fence and today i divided up the pots of tiger grass and planted along the fences facing the streets i just need to the giant elephants ears to block the nosy neighbour and i can work on making the jungle bit. Oh and get the bamboo for the difgicult corner

unaluna · Mar 28, 2020, 09:35 PM

When this is over, please can i come marry you?

NP_Complete · Mar 28, 2020, 09:36 PM

I'm not sure I see the problem with earning a living doing what you want, have aptitude for and allows you to work inside and without heavy lifting if that's something you're not interested in. Not all therapists are intellectually challenged and some have years of education. I'm not at all interested in manual labor and I rather like air conditioning. I use the stuff between my ears to earn a living and people pay me to do it. I'm sure the same thing could be said about many professions, even lawyers and professors. I would think that most people have a dream about earning a living doing what they like and how they like to do it. Actually pulling it off doesn't make you a bad person.

stopdog · Mar 28, 2020, 09:37 PM

Nice work if you can get it. But every other profession you named actually does something besides sit there and blame the client and get their egos stroked. Therapists are very trump-like. Therapists are the worst because they don't DO anything but sit there and get handed money. Every other profession is accountable in tangible ways - therapists are not - they even proudly proclaim they have no culpability for client outcomes. Except they take credit when the outcome is good. They are morally bereft.

NP_Complete · Mar 28, 2020, 09:42 PM

Just because from your perspective they don't DO anything, doesn't actually mean they don't. I basically sit there all day and talk a computer into doing what I want it to. From some outside perspective, I don't do anything either.

stopdog · Mar 28, 2020, 09:43 PM

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I am slowly building the walls to my jungle fortress i have planted heliconias along the back fence and today i divided up the pots of tiger grass and planted along the fences facing the streets i just need to the giant elephants ears to block the nosy neighbour and i can work on making the jungle bit. Oh and get the bamboo for the difgicult corner

You sound like a good gardener. I tried to make a hedge once and it failed in a spectacular row of dead shrubs. That are mostly still there many years later - they don't decay very quickly.

stopdog · Mar 28, 2020, 09:44 PM

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Just because from your perspective they don't DO anything, doesn't actually mean they don't.

Just because they believe they convince others they do something doesn't make it true either. Emperor's New Clothes.
I feel certain you and I are never going to agree on this.

LonesomeTonight · Mar 28, 2020, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NP_Complete

Just because from your perspective they don't DO anything, doesn't actually mean they don't. I basically sit there all day and talk a computer into doing what I want it to. From some outside perspective, I don't do anything either.

Yeah, I mean, I just correct grammar, spelling, and style from the comfort of my home (even before Covid, though I have worked in offices in the past). I'm not exactly doing much from some perspectives...

NP_Complete · Mar 28, 2020, 09:47 PM

From my perspective, lawyers are morally bereft. I've been charged multiple times in increments of 0.2 hours at $300/hour for answering emails that couldn't possibly have taken more than a minute to answer. I was also charged for recalculating my income when the lawyer didn't have his facts straight. My income per pay check was clearly stated on the forms I filled out for them. So they screwed up and charged me to fix their error. Talk about morally bereft.

Are all lawyers morally bereft? No, they're not. Are all therapists? No, most certainly not.

NP_Complete · Mar 28, 2020, 09:50 PM

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Just because they believe they convince others they do something doesn't make it true either. Emperor's New Clothes.
I feel certain you and I are never going to agree on this.

Yeah, I'm 1000% certain we're not. But I also feel like defending my therapist right now. And because you've made a blanket statement about ALL therapists, I feel the need to challenge your blanket statement. I'm also drinking vodka and bored and lonely, so there's that.

atisketatasket · Mar 28, 2020, 09:52 PM

Guys, come on. No side to this is ever going to agree with the other, so what’s the point of arguing, now of all times?

None of our jobs are worth much right now. People who work in hospitals and the people keeping essential businesses running are the only people really doing anything worth **** right now. IMO.

stopdog · Mar 28, 2020, 09:53 PM

I am not all worked up about what clients want to believe. It is therapists I hold in contempt - not clients.

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