Home Menu

Menu



advertisement
Closed Thread
Thread Tools Display Modes
ArtieTheSequal
Writing my way through...
 
ArtieTheSequal's Avatar
 
Member Since Feb 2020
Location: In the desert of my soul
Posts: 7,599 (SuperPoster!)
4
6,014 hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Apr 23, 2024 at 03:05 PM
  #21
I may just do it. H would hate it, that would be reason enough bahahahahahaha just kidding.

I am feeling stupid happy today, and so free. It is a good feeling.
ArtieTheSequal is offline  
 
Hugs from:
Lemoncake, LonesomeTonight
 
Thanks for this!
LonesomeTonight

advertisement
ScarletPimpernel
Wise Elder
 
ScarletPimpernel's Avatar
 
Member Since Nov 2013
Location: US
Posts: 8,739 (SuperPoster!)
11
7,255 hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Apr 23, 2024 at 04:10 PM
  #22
My sister is harassing us. She's called me from her bf's number. She called H's work. She did a wellness check on me. And she called L... I'm scared of her.

__________________
"Odium became your opium..." ~Epica
ScarletPimpernel is offline  
 
Hugs from:
ArtieTheSequal, ChickenNoodleSoup, InkyBooky, LonesomeTonight, NP_Complete, unaluna
ArtieTheSequal
Writing my way through...
 
ArtieTheSequal's Avatar
 
Member Since Feb 2020
Location: In the desert of my soul
Posts: 7,599 (SuperPoster!)
4
6,014 hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Apr 23, 2024 at 05:41 PM
  #23
I'm so sorry, Scarlet.
ArtieTheSequal is offline  
 
Thanks for this!
ScarletPimpernel
atisketatasket
Child of a lesser god
 
atisketatasket's Avatar
 
Member Since Jun 2015
Location: Tartarus
Posts: 19,302 (SuperPoster!)
9
12.4k hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Apr 23, 2024 at 08:10 PM
  #24
You all remember that ableist incident from almost two years ago by a colleague and my chair? And eventually my Dean heard of it and reported it?

So finally after 16 months the investigating office has filed their report with the Provost for her verdict.

I see the Provost regularly as part of my faculty governance leadership role, and will for the next three years. Having her know about that feels humiliating and embarrassing.

(Oh, and yes, things are still bad over disability here. I’m just trying to find another job.)
atisketatasket is offline  
 
Hugs from:
ArtieTheSequal, InkyBooky, LonesomeTonight, NP_Complete, unaluna, WarmFuzzySocks
 
Thanks for this!
unaluna
unaluna
Elder Harridan x-hankster
 
unaluna's Avatar
 
Member Since Jun 2011
Location: Milan/Michigan
Posts: 40,950 (SuperPoster!)
13
68.9k hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Apr 23, 2024 at 09:43 PM
  #25
@@, Im sorry and it sucks that you are going thru this.
unaluna is online now  
 
Thanks for this!
atisketatasket
WarmFuzzySocks
Magnet
 
WarmFuzzySocks's Avatar
 
Member Since Jun 2017
Location: in the garden
Posts: 2,363
7
15.7k hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Apr 23, 2024 at 11:05 PM
  #26
Ugh. I'm sorry, @@.

That sucks. That the provost who gives the verdict is someone you work with regularly also seems so backward and wrong.

I hope you find a great job at a university with a clue.

__________________
Since you cannot do good to all, you are to pay special attention to those who, by accidents of time, or place, or circumstance, are brought into closer connection with you. (St. Augustine)
WarmFuzzySocks is offline  
 
Thanks for this!
atisketatasket
atisketatasket
Child of a lesser god
 
atisketatasket's Avatar
 
Member Since Jun 2015
Location: Tartarus
Posts: 19,302 (SuperPoster!)
9
12.4k hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Apr 24, 2024 at 12:27 AM
  #27
Quote:
Originally Posted by WarmFuzzySocks View Post
Ugh. I'm sorry, @@.

That sucks. That the provost who gives the verdict is someone you work with regularly also seems so backward and wrong.

I hope you find a great job at a university with a clue.
What also makes me nervous is verdicts tend to come back from the provost’s office as “no wrongdoing found.” Wrongdoing in this case means violation of university policies. Most of those are previous provosts, not this one, but still.

Admittedly I only know of five other cases, and four of them I would actually agree there was no violation. But the fifth was a sexual harassment case complete with witnesses.

I definitely won’t feel good if “no wrongdoing” comes back because I’m pretty sure university policies were violated. I don’t want anyone punished, but I also don’t want anything like that to happen again, and “no wrongdoing” isn’t going to help that.
atisketatasket is offline  
 
Hugs from:
ArtieTheSequal, LonesomeTonight, unaluna, WarmFuzzySocks
 
Thanks for this!
stopdog
Lemoncake
Roses are falling.
 
Lemoncake's Avatar
 
Member Since May 2017
Location: Seattle.
Posts: 9,955 (SuperPoster!)
7
10.5k hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Apr 24, 2024 at 01:08 AM
  #28
Sorry you’re going through this @@.

If you feel unsatisfied with the outcome perhaps you could consider reaching out to higher authorities within the university administration ?
The Office of Institutional Equity came up in a search. Im not sure if it’s the same for every university.

Have you also considered seeking legal counsel or consulting with a advocacy organizations that specialize in addressing discrimination in academic settings?

__________________
Lemoncake is offline  
LonesomeTonight
Always in This Twilight
 
LonesomeTonight's Avatar
 
Member Since Feb 2015
Location: US
Posts: 21,617 (SuperPoster!)
9
76.2k hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Apr 24, 2024 at 08:40 AM
  #29
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScarletPimpernel View Post
My sister is harassing us. She's called me from her bf's number. She called H's work. She did a wellness check on me. And she called L... I'm scared of her.

I'm so sorry you're dealing with this, Scarlet. I understand why you're scared. Could you consider a restraining order maybe? Hugs...
LonesomeTonight is offline  
 
Thanks for this!
ScarletPimpernel, unaluna
LonesomeTonight
Always in This Twilight
 
LonesomeTonight's Avatar
 
Member Since Feb 2015
Location: US
Posts: 21,617 (SuperPoster!)
9
76.2k hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Apr 24, 2024 at 08:42 AM
  #30
Quote:
Originally Posted by atisketatasket View Post
You all remember that ableist incident from almost two years ago by a colleague and my chair? And eventually my Dean heard of it and reported it?

So finally after 16 months the investigating office has filed their report with the Provost for her verdict.

I see the Provost regularly as part of my faculty governance leadership role, and will for the next three years. Having her know about that feels humiliating and embarrassing.

(Oh, and yes, things are still bad over disability here. I’m just trying to find another job.)

I'm sorry it's taken so long and that things are still bad at your work. That's not acceptable. I hope some sort of wrongdoing is found. And that you can find another job. You deserve better.
LonesomeTonight is offline  
 
Hugs from:
unaluna
 
Thanks for this!
atisketatasket
stopdog
underdog is here
 
Member Since Sep 2011
Location: blank
Posts: 35,049 (SuperPoster!)
13
1 hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Apr 24, 2024 at 09:16 AM
  #31
ATAT - sorry to hear they are not being less incompetent. Hope you can leave there soon.

__________________
Please NO @

Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live.
Oscar Wilde
Well Behaved Women Seldom Make History - Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.
stopdog is offline  
 
Thanks for this!
atisketatasket, unaluna, WarmFuzzySocks
ScarletPimpernel
Wise Elder
 
ScarletPimpernel's Avatar
 
Member Since Nov 2013
Location: US
Posts: 8,739 (SuperPoster!)
11
7,255 hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Apr 24, 2024 at 11:43 AM
  #32
Quote:
Originally Posted by LonesomeTonight View Post
I'm so sorry you're dealing with this, Scarlet. I understand why you're scared. Could you consider a restraining order maybe? Hugs...
We tried yesterday. We got denied. So I'm amending ot right now to see if I can get any more info on there. It jard to show harassment. Like they don't know what she's capable of.

__________________
"Odium became your opium..." ~Epica
ScarletPimpernel is offline  
 
Hugs from:
LonesomeTonight, unaluna
LonesomeTonight
Always in This Twilight
 
LonesomeTonight's Avatar
 
Member Since Feb 2015
Location: US
Posts: 21,617 (SuperPoster!)
9
76.2k hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Apr 24, 2024 at 01:08 PM
  #33
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScarletPimpernel View Post
We tried yesterday. We got denied. So I'm amending ot right now to see if I can get any more info on there. It jard to show harassment. Like they don't know what she's capable of.

Ugh. I would think her past history could help here, assuming that's still on the record.

Possible trigger:
LonesomeTonight is offline  
 
Thanks for this!
ScarletPimpernel, unaluna
LonesomeTonight
Always in This Twilight
 
LonesomeTonight's Avatar
 
Member Since Feb 2015
Location: US
Posts: 21,617 (SuperPoster!)
9
76.2k hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Apr 24, 2024 at 01:26 PM
  #34
Struggling a bit after today's session with Dr. T (which was virtual because D has what I think/hope is a cold and I'm feeling a bit off). We talked about his office move in June, what will be different, how to help the transition, etc. It will be 25% smaller (so, for example, going from 12 feet long to 9 feet). So not all of his stuff will fit, including a big tree (palm maybe?) he has in the corner, though he said it's sick anyway.

One thing I mentioned as a possible way to help the transition is that maybe I could be the one to put the small-ish glass fish (3 inches long?) I gave him in the new office. And to that, he said he didn't know what would fit yet. So I guess that means he might not be able to find a space for the fish? I understand he'd prioritize stuff he likes better, but it's painful to think he might eliminate something I gave him (even if it had to sit, say, behind something else). I did ask that if it wouldn't fit, I could bring something really tiny to replace it, and he seemed OK with that. But I'm not sure he understands why it would hurt if he had to eliminate the original one?

Like, I get that it might not fit. It was that he seemed very matter-of-fact about it, which I know is how he often is. Rather than acknowledging how he knows it might be hard and maybe saying he'd try to find a spot for it. And perhaps he didn't mean to imply it wouldn't fit--just didn't want to guarantee anything. I'll talk to him about it more next session. It just hurt, especially because it wasn't something I was expecting. I guess at least he'd be willing to let me bring something else tiny? Must begin hunt for world's smallest fish figurine. Or something else--a fish just has shared meaning on multiple levels.

Last edited by LonesomeTonight; Apr 24, 2024 at 02:08 PM.. Reason: "bit tree" to "big tree"
LonesomeTonight is offline  
 
Hugs from:
ArtieTheSequal, LostOnTheTrail, NP_Complete, ScarletPimpernel
LonesomeTonight
Always in This Twilight
 
LonesomeTonight's Avatar
 
Member Since Feb 2015
Location: US
Posts: 21,617 (SuperPoster!)
9
76.2k hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Apr 24, 2024 at 01:29 PM
  #35
Sorry, I feel like my stuff with Dr. T seems so minor. We're also still in the process of getting estimates to remediate the mold in the house--finally got an estimate for the first place today (which was much less than I'd expected, though doesn't include rebuilding stuff). And sometimes it can be easier for my brain to focus on stuff like "will Dr. T find space for the ugly glass fish I gave him?" rather than "how much will it cost to have a bunch of toxic mold removed from our walls, which may have been negatively affecting our health for years?"
LonesomeTonight is offline  
 
Hugs from:
ArtieTheSequal, LostOnTheTrail, ScarletPimpernel
ArtieTheSequal
Writing my way through...
 
ArtieTheSequal's Avatar
 
Member Since Feb 2020
Location: In the desert of my soul
Posts: 7,599 (SuperPoster!)
4
6,014 hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Apr 24, 2024 at 03:04 PM
  #36
hugs and peaceful wishes sent out to struggling couchies. i'm sorry things are rough right now for several couchies.
ArtieTheSequal is offline  
 
Hugs from:
LonesomeTonight, ScarletPimpernel, unaluna
ArtieTheSequal
Writing my way through...
 
ArtieTheSequal's Avatar
 
Member Since Feb 2020
Location: In the desert of my soul
Posts: 7,599 (SuperPoster!)
4
6,014 hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Apr 24, 2024 at 03:04 PM
  #37
i don't know if a bit of brightness will help or not. but at work today, every person i've had to call has been nice. what a refreshing change from the norm.
ArtieTheSequal is offline  
 
Hugs from:
LonesomeTonight, LostOnTheTrail, ScarletPimpernel, unaluna
 
Thanks for this!
LonesomeTonight, LostOnTheTrail
ScarletPimpernel
Wise Elder
 
ScarletPimpernel's Avatar
 
Member Since Nov 2013
Location: US
Posts: 8,739 (SuperPoster!)
11
7,255 hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Apr 24, 2024 at 09:14 PM
  #38
We got the restraining order! Now I just need to give it to the sheriffs to serve her. Court will be on the 14th. We move on the 17th. Will be a busy week!

__________________
"Odium became your opium..." ~Epica
ScarletPimpernel is offline  
 
Hugs from:
ArtieTheSequal, LonesomeTonight, LostOnTheTrail, unaluna
Lemoncake
Roses are falling.
 
Lemoncake's Avatar
 
Member Since May 2017
Location: Seattle.
Posts: 9,955 (SuperPoster!)
7
10.5k hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Apr 25, 2024 at 04:05 PM
  #39
It sounds like the glass fish you gave Dr. T holds symbolic significance for you. representing your connection and the therapeutic relationship itself. The prospect of it not finding a place in his new office may trigger feelings of rejection or a sense of loss.

Dr. T's response, while perhaps unintentionally dismissive or matter-of-fact, could be about his own boundaries and priorities. the office often serves as a transitional space for both. Dr. T's focus on logistical considerations like space constraints may reflect his need to establish a professional environment, even if it comes at the expense of some emotional resonance for you.

Your desire for acknowledgment and validation from Dr. T regarding the significance of the glass fish suggests a longing for affirmation and recognition of your contributions to the therapeutic process.

__________________
Lemoncake is offline  
 
Thanks for this!
LonesomeTonight
Lemoncake
Roses are falling.
 
Lemoncake's Avatar
 
Member Since May 2017
Location: Seattle.
Posts: 9,955 (SuperPoster!)
7
10.5k hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Apr 25, 2024 at 04:11 PM
  #40
Quote:
Originally Posted by ArtieTheSequal View Post
i don't know if a bit of brightness will help or not. but at work today, every person i've had to call has been nice. what a refreshing change from the norm.
That sounds like a wonderful change of pace! It's always uplifting to encounter kindness and positivity, serving as a reminder of the goodness and kindness that still exists in the world.


__________________
Lemoncake is offline  
Closed Thread



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The Couch 146 : The Untouchable, Nontotient, Octahedral, Composite Couch. Ellahmae Psychotherapy 966 Jul 14, 2017 07:28 AM
curiouser and curiouser shortandcute Sleep Issues & Dream Interpretation 3 Sep 24, 2013 05:08 PM
curiouser and curiouser dogtanian Personality Place 6 Jun 25, 2006 09:09 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:55 PM.
Powered by vBulletin® — Copyright © 2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.



 

My Support Forums

My Support Forums is the online community that was originally begun as the Psych Central Forums in 2001. It now runs as an independent self-help support group community for mental health, personality, and psychological issues and is overseen by a group of dedicated, caring volunteers from around the world.

 

Helplines and Lifelines

The material on this site is for informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment provided by a qualified health care provider.

Always consult your doctor or mental health professional before trying anything you read here.