[falcon2002]

I suppose 2 c T on feb 11 but she call 2 c if wanted 2 come in today. i said yes talked like 45 min she was taking notes on this post-it i was reading what she was writing down one she had wrote down that i was a brat after seeing that i was like i need 2 get them notes ok then she told me that i had 2 c this women to fill out a financial agreement. She left the room first ok she left the post- it notes on her desk then i got them so i go 2 the other room i was in there 10 min. i walk out, t walk in to her office then she was like STOP right there. get back in my office, she was like those r my notes not yours 2 c. why can't i c them, she was like u can c your files but them notes r mine. She told if i do that again i'll b c-ing a new T and was crying while saying this Why want T let me c notes she write about me.

[pegasus]

((((((( falcon )))))))

Wow! I am gob-smacked!

Fisrtly, your T is right about the notes in that there are usually two sets of notes. The official notes that are kept on your file, that you are allowed to see. T will also have seperate notes that she doesn't have to show you, these notes are usually 'reminders' for the T.

I am amazed because her own personal notes should not be written on a post-it note and she certainly shouldn't be writing that you are a Brat! Are you sure T wrote that you are a Brat? If so, run for the hills and get another T!

[coconut64]

i still don't understand why Ts need two set of notes and why we can't see them. We have to be honest with them but they don't have to???

((((((((((((((falcon)))))))))))) i'm sorry this happened to you. are you going to go back?

[falcon2002]

Originally Posted by pegasus

((((((( falcon )))))))

Wow! I am gob-smacked!

Fisrtly, your T is right about the notes in that there are usually two sets of notes. The official notes that are kept on your file, that you are allowed to see. T will also have seperate notes that she doesn't have to show you, these notes are usually 'reminders' for the T.

I am amazed because her own personal notes should not be written on a post-it note and she certainly shouldn't be writing that you are a Brat! Are you sure T wrote that you are a Brat? If so, run for the hills and get another T!

YES BRAT, I also said a smarta** comment toward T

[deliquesce]

oh wow, falcon. i'm so sorry that happened to you .

i think you should find another T. anyone who thinks you are a "brat" doesn't have the compassion to be able to work with you effectively.

[madisgram]

i agree with pegasus. you don't need to go back to that T. totally inappropriate on her behalf. i'll refrain from what else i'd like to write.

Originally Posted by coconut64

i still don't understand why Ts need two set of notes and why we can't see them. We have to be honest with them but they don't have to???

Notes that they take are for themselves. So they may write down things such as "Patient mentions ____, possibly delusional". That's an odd example but the first I could think of off the top of my head. To see that you might be offended for no reason at all. They have to write down little things as a reminder to themselves to follow up or check on things as they are running through their head. This could cause unnecessary harm to the client. Which is why those notes are not for patient viewing.
They're not meant to bash the client. But to make sure the therapist is keeping a running reminder of flags that go off in their head.

[Simcha]

Originally Posted by falcon2002

I suppose 2 c T on feb 11 but she call 2 c if wanted 2 come in today. i said yes talked like 45 min she was taking notes on this post-it i was reading what she was writing down one she had wrote down that i was a brat after seeing that i was like i need 2 get them notes ok then she told me that i had 2 c this women to fill out a financial agreement. She left the room first ok she left the post- it notes on her desk then i got them so i go 2 the other room i was in there 10 min. i walk out, t walk in to her office then she was like STOP right there. get back in my office, she was like those r my notes not yours 2 c. why can't i c them, she was like u can c your files but them notes r mine. She told if i do that again i'll b c-ing a new T and was crying while saying this Why want T let me c notes she write about me.

How old are you falcon?
I'm with everyone else here when I say you need to stop seeing this T immediately and go to one who treats you with respect and has empathy.

What are your thoughts regarding seeing someone else?

[phoenix7]

yep the brat thing is not good - if you are sure thats what it said i would find another T as this one was disrespectful take care falcon2002

[peaches100]

I also agree that you seriously think about getting a new t. I'm sure she never planned on you finding out what she said. But what she said shows a lack of empathy. You need somebody in your corner who can empathize, not criticize.

[peaches100]

If you do decide to stay with this t, I would definitely talk about this situation more. Yes, you should not have looked at her notes. But you did, and what you saw has hurt you. If you and she don't discuss how this has affected you, it could seriously interfere with therapy. If it were me, I would not see a t who thought I was a brat.

[falcon2002]

This Damn T called my father today when i was not at home at the time, 2 tell him that i took her notes that i gave back. I'm so pissed off that she would call my dad, she can't call my dad I call T asked why she called my dad she was u signed the papers for me to talk 2 your dad. NO I did not, my dad like what is your problem with this T U always said great things about her. I'm so pissed right now it not funny, My father was like when u go back to see her on 25th of Feb i'm going with u because I said I was hit her so dam hard and i want 2 hurt her after I said that My dad called my T

[deliquesce]

i'm sorry this has happened, falcon. is your dad someone you trust? if so, maybe explain the situation to him and see if he can help you find a new T and bring action against this one. there is no way she was allowed to break confidentiality and call your dad unless you gave her permission to do so.

[falcon2002]

HMM let is here this morning My father and I had a meeting what my T and Doctor. the dr went off saying i shouldn't have took her notes I told the dr i was mad that she wrote i was a brat. then she dr was like u should had not said that smartass comment. then T spoke up and said it does not bother me that she say that. then she took the notes out that was going 2 take and, it said that how i acted sometimes was like a brat. So i got piss off for no reason and then Dr said we can call your dad any time because u sign papers 3 yrs old. then dr says your father call t that u wanted 2 hurt her. No I don't i was mad at that time and i don't want 2 hurt her. i was leaving T grab my hand and hugged me. my dad was like oh my god she never let anyone hug her

[Simcha]

Originally Posted by falcon2002

HMM let is here this morning My father and I had a meeting what my T and Doctor. the dr went off saying i shouldn't have took her notes I told the dr i was mad that she wrote i was a brat. then she dr was like u should had not said that smartass comment. then T spoke up and said it does not bother me that she say that. then she took the notes out that was going 2 take and, it said that how i acted sometimes was like a brat. So i got piss off for no reason and then Dr said we can call your dad any time because u sign papers 3 yrs old. then dr says your father call t that u wanted 2 hurt her. No I don't i was mad at that time and i don't want 2 hurt her. i was leaving T grab my hand and hugged me. my dad was like oh my god she never let anyone hug her

falcon,

It sounds like you are being "punished" and ganged up on by your T and doctor. Therapy is supposed o be a place where you can share your feelings without fear of being criticized or judged. When your T wrote that you were a brat, even though it seems to have been for her own personal use and not in your chart, it does show that your T is more concerned with passing judgments on you rather than the therapeutic interaction that s

You can revoke permission for your therapist to share information about you (aka "consent to release") at any time, verbally or in writing. That's the law. It's interesting... your T behaves in a very contradictory manner when she creates a hostile interaction with you, and then she tries to draw you in and prevent you from leaving her for good.

That's how I read it. How do you feel or wha's your take on his?

[I_WMD]

was leaving T grab my hand and hugged me. my dad was like oh my god she never let anyone hug her.

falcon .... Sounds like ya just made an in road with * T * .

And,,,,a kinda more aware trust now that ya stood up a bit for yourself

....and a grin and an >> OOOoppssssssss .. " I apologize " and >> see if that hug still fits .

Hope your road smoothes out faster now .

WMD.

[StrawberryFieldsss]

ITA with Simcha. The whole situation sounds strange.

I would definitely get rid of this t and get a new one. Make sure you read what you are signing and don't let them tell you what it says so you'll just sign it.

Just because someone is a therapist it doesn't mean 1. that they should be or even 2. that they have it together themselves. You really need to be careful out there