[MegRy]

There is a request for unsupervised visits for prepubescent children with their father who has admitted to many years of child pornography of prepubescent children. Do you know of any articles or research that would support supervision over no supervision?

[~Christina]

This shouldn’t even be a question.

Anyone like him should not be allowed around children with out supervision , but I would not allow any visitation at all personally.

Children need protected!

[healingme4me]

Have your lawyer fight for your request that visitation only be supervised.

[Rose76]

I could not find articles specifically addressing the situation you describe. However there are lots of articles giving evidence that interest in child pornagraphy tends to correlate with actual child molestation. Here's an example: https://www.mentalhelp.net/blogs/chi...al-pedophilia/

Does the father currently have visitation rights, and what are the terms now? Would allowing unsupervised visitation be a change from the current situation?

You have to ask what goal is going to be helped by unsupervised visits? Then one has to ask if the goal is a fantasy-wish. I've heard things like, "I want my child to have a father." and "I want that relationship to be as normal as possible." Sometimes, no father is better than a bad father. Sometimes, a father is not capable of interacting in a healthy way.

Sometimes a parent thinks that the spouse has to be expected to help with parenting, as in: "This is his kid too." If one parent cannot be trusted to act in the child's best interests, then the responsible parent has to assume full responsibility for parenting. No parent can ever rightly say: "I'm only responsible for 50% of this child's parenting needs."

There's more cause for concern than just the risk of these children being sexually molested. An adult who is interested in child pornography probably has other issues of deficient morality.

[bunnyhabit]

all information i have read on this points to only supervised visitation if father has a public record of pedophilia be it medical, police or otherwise be it be child pornagraphy or physical molesting of a child

[Carmina]

He should not be allowed anywhere near them and if it is supervised by yourself you should also have protection

[Molinit]

This is what you should be paying a lawyer for.

[Deejay14]

If he has been legally charged and it gets in front of a judge this should not even be up for discussion . If he has ju s t admitted this to the mother of his child with no legal ramifications it's up to that mom to keep her child safe.. Honestly would never allow even a supervised visit. If it goes to court and he is able to get supervised visits I would comply with the courts order in a restaurant with him as far from my child as i could, big tables between them.

[ReptileInYourHead]

Maybe supervised visits only after he seeks help and begins rehabilitation?
Maybe it would motivate him to deal with his sexual disfunction.

if it was the mother who admitted to pedophilia, would it be right to ban her from contact with her children. I’m curious what you guys think.

[Amyjay]

Originally Posted by ReptileInYourHead

if it was the mother who admitted to pedophilia, would it be right to ban her from contact with her children. I’m curious what you guys think.

Yes. It would be right to ban the mother from her children. Sexual abuse by a female is every bit as damaging as sexual abuse from a male. In some ways more so as the mother figure.
Speaking from experience.

[Crazy Hitch]

Someone who does that should not be around kids.

[amandalouise]

at first I thought this thread was the parent who was interested in porn wanted articles that would help them get visitation... now I see the post is something possibly different....

all we know is that a petition for visitation has been filed in a court somewhere, by.....a father.( who according to the post admitted to child porn)....

and the original poster who may or may not be either the father, mother, or concerned friend / relative (sorry but there is no way for me to know who the original poster is, its the internet anyone can be anyone just being logical here)

the original poster wants articles about fathers who are in to child porn getting visitation with children that are the same ages as the children in the porn.

Im not about to post any articles but what I can say is that here in america it doesnt matter what the crime. all parents have certain rights. one of those parental rights is to be involved with their children.........unless.........the court has terminated the parental rights.

given the original post does not say anything about parental rights being terminated this father mentioned in the post if here in the USA will receive some sort of visitation.

whether that visitation is supervised or not is not up to me to say. its up to whether the other parent proves in court that it would be harmful for the child to be alone with the father in question. example has the father previously emotionally, physically or sexually abused his own children.

another thing to consider here... sometimes in separations, divorces its not very friendly. I dont for sure what all the dynamics are behind the computer and post. all I can do is go according to the original post and how things are done in my location...

which means yes this father would end up with unsupervised visitation unless the other parent can prove to the court the father has harmed his children in some way, if so then the father will receive supervised visits until something is proven that his visits with his children are causing the children emotional, physical or sexual abuse.

sorry but thats how the law works here.

[Middlemarcher]

Do not spend your time asking about articles or research. Spend your time figuring out how to get the sharkiest lawyer you possibly can. Do not do this without a lawyer.

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by Middlemarcher

Do not spend your time asking about articles or research. Spend your time figuring out how to get the sharkiest lawyer you possibly can. Do not do this without a lawyer.

Im assuming since the courts are already involved they may already have lawyers,

I dont agree that the sharkiest lawyer would help in something like this. child custody and visitation cases are not based on which parent gets the meanest , smartest or sharkiest lawyers here, its based on what the courts feel is best for a child..

here in america the courts assign the children their own lawyers, the parents dont get the children the lawyers, the parents have no say who their childrens lawyers are in court cases...

these lawyers (called Guardian ad litem) are not associated with either parents side of the case. they are strictly there to talk with the children, find out what the children want, whether the children want to see their mother or father, and talk with the childrens doctors, talk with the childrens therapists/ psychiatrists, observe the children with each of the parents then report back to the court on what is best for the children.

depending on the childrens ages the judge may also talk with the children.

if abuse allegations are made the children will be court ordered to go through a medical and psychological exams to find out whether physical, emotional or sexual abuse has happened. the exams will even address whether one or the other parent coached the children in any way.

in other words it wont be up to the parents getting the sharkiest lawyers. parents can have the meanest, cleaverest lawyers and loads of money and still lose their side of the case.

Why because the children have their own .........court appointed....... not parent appointed lawyers and the courts do whats best for the children not the parents in custody/ visitation cases.

[Rose76]

Originally Posted by amandalouise

. . . . if abuse allegations are made the children will be court ordered to go through a medical and psychological exams to find out whether physical, emotional or sexual abuse has happened. the exams will even address whether one or the other parent coached the children in any way.

Amanda - what kind of medical exam would the children go through to find out whether some kind of abuse has happened?

[Middlemarcher]

Your personal attorney can greatly sway what the courts feel is best for that child. They will help you gather documentation. They will help you avoid making mistakes before your case is heard or concluded that may seriously affect the court’s decision.

While a judge will listen seriously to a GAL’s recommendations, the court is not bound to abide by them. A lawyer is essential in responding to the GAL’s report, crafting a response that contains any objections or opinions on info left out.

GALs are as infallible as any other human beings, and if a parent truly feels that the other parent presents a danger to the child, they should not rest easy in the notion that the GAL will correctly perceive what is best for the child. Particularly if you live in a less populated area, the GAL could be friends with your spouse’s attorney and thus be biased in their favor. There are tons of reasons to be careful to have an attorney to guide your interests here.

(I am not a lawyer, do not work for one, etc. I am simply of the opinion that in our judicial system, a lawyer is as essential for a custody case as it would be for a criminal or civil case.)

Originally Posted by amandalouise

Im assuming since the courts are already involved they may already have lawyers,

I dont agree that the sharkiest lawyer would help in something like this. child custody and visitation cases are not based on which parent gets the meanest , smartest or sharkiest lawyers here, its based on what the courts feel is best for a child..

here in america the courts assign the children their own lawyers, the parents dont get the children the lawyers, the parents have no say who their childrens lawyers are in court cases...

these lawyers (called Guardian ad litem) are not associated with either parents side of the case. they are strictly there to talk with the children, find out what the children want, whether the children want to see their mother or father, and talk with the childrens doctors, talk with the childrens therapists/ psychiatrists, observe the children with each of the parents then report back to the court on what is best for the children.

depending on the childrens ages the judge may also talk with the children.

if abuse allegations are made the children will be court ordered to go through a medical and psychological exams to find out whether physical, emotional or sexual abuse has happened. the exams will even address whether one or the other parent coached the children in any way.

in other words it wont be up to the parents getting the sharkiest lawyers. parents can have the meanest, cleaverest lawyers and loads of money and still lose their side of the case.

Why because the children have their own .........court appointed....... not parent appointed lawyers and the courts do whats best for the children not the parents in custody/ visitation cases.