[rdgrad15]

Anyone know someone who likes to self diagnose people with disorders and judge others unfairly? Just wondered what would be the driving force that makes someone want or like to do that. I've known people who will automatically say that someone is autistic just because they talk a lot or may have one awkward habit. That doesn't mean they have autism. I work with autistic kids at the high school level and there is a big difference between someone with autism and someone who is just a bit awkward. Even I'm a bit awkward. I've also been called gay, which is not a disorder, by someone just because I have no desire to date or have no desire for intimacy.

Doesn't mean I like other men, I just have no desire for a close relationship of any kind. I've heard people diagnose others with various other disorders as well without having any solid proof or a professional diagnosis. It is one thing to have a suspicion. I will admit, I've had suspicions about a select few people, and still do, but I don't go around saying they actually have whatever disorder I may suspect they have. I feel like self diagnosing people like that can come off as arrogant and stuck up behavior. Has anyone ever self diagnosed you with something you don't have just because you may act a certain way or may not like something? Just wondered.

[Mendingmysoul]

Hmmm...I think unless a diagnosis comes from a professional, it does not carry any weight.There are lot of people around us who jump to conclusions about others personalities,and brand them and judge them.I would call them smearcapaigners,that's all.And they gay thing happened to a person whom I know.He didn't want to date yet,and a girl he politely declined spread the word that he was gay.

[rdgrad15]

Originally Posted by Mendingmysoul

Hmmm...I think unless a diagnosis comes from a professional, it does not carry any weight.There are lot of people around us who jump to conclusions about others personalities,and brand them and judge them.I would call them smearcapaigners,that's all.And they gay thing happened to a person whom I know.He didn't want to date yet,and a girl he politely declined spread the word that he was gay.

I totally agree with you, and yes with the whole gay thing, that is absurd that someone would accuse someone of being gay just because someone else declined. And yes, unless a diagnosis comes from a professional, there is no value to it and people like to jump to conclusions. It's one thing to suspect, but it's another to self diagnose as if your a professional at it.

A few people have suggested that I'm high functioning autistic when I fail to mask during emotional situations. They argued that, because I wasn't emoting properly, I didn't understand what was going on.

[rdgrad15]

Originally Posted by theoretical

A few people have suggested that I'm high functioning autistic when I fail to mask during emotional situations. They argued that, because I wasn't emoting properly, I didn't understand what was going on.

Yeah that stupid that people assume you are autistic just because of how you handle emotions. I've actually be called autistic myself just because I had some weird habits as a child, habits that all children have but may seem weird to adults or would be weird if adults had them. It's pathetic.

[seesaw]

There are definitely a lot of people who like to throw around DX labels. I really try to avoid it and just focus on a person's behavior and how it affects me, but, for example, with my dad, my therapist really thinks he has NPD, and understanding NPD has helped me heal. Understanding a bit why he acts the way he does, has helped me moved on in some ways. Likewise, there are a few people in the course of my life I have suspected have some BPD, I don't really share this publicly or say it to them, but what I do actually is focus on their behavior and try to understand what's behind "bad" behavior that affects me and just deal with the behavior.

The only person who can DX and should DX is the person's provider. Even people who I think have this or that, who knows? Because I'm only seeing one side of the person and in certain situations. Their provider will have the whole picture.

It's so much easier to just go by the person's actions, right? If the person is a jerk to you then you just say, the person was a jerk, not diagnose every person who might have been terse with you as NPD, lol. (I mean general "you" not YOU, lol.)

I think people using psych DXs as put downs or insults is a really crappy trend.

[downandlonely]

My roommate in college said she had Aspbergers and diagnosed me with the same thing because I don't pick up on social cues that well. Ever since she put it into my head, I've been wondering about it. I've never been officially diagnosed with it though.

[rdgrad15]

Originally Posted by seesaw

There are definitely a lot of people who like to throw around DX labels. I really try to avoid it and just focus on a person's behavior and how it affects me, but, for example, with my dad, my therapist really thinks he has NPD, and understanding NPD has helped me heal. Understanding a bit why he acts the way he does, has helped me moved on in some ways. Likewise, there are a few people in the course of my life I have suspected have some BPD, I don't really share this publicly or say it to them, but what I do actually is focus on their behavior and try to understand what's behind "bad" behavior that affects me and just deal with the behavior.

The only person who can DX and should DX is the person's provider. Even people who I think have this or that, who knows? Because I'm only seeing one side of the person and in certain situations. Their provider will have the whole picture.

It's so much easier to just go by the person's actions, right? If the person is a jerk to you then you just say, the person was a jerk, not diagnose every person who might have been terse with you as NPD, lol. (I mean general "you" not YOU, lol.)

I think people using psych DXs as put downs or insults is a really crappy trend.

Exactly! I agree with everything you said. And yes I agree that people shouldn't diagnose others as a way of putting them down. That's an easy cop out I would think. Basically saying, "Oh, this person has this disorder so that's why they behave this way. Just have to accept the fact that they aren't that good or they are weird." It can be tempting at times, but it's not good to do. And I'm the same way, I have had suspicions. Like, I do suspect one person I know to have Histrionic Personality Disorder due to how extreme her dramatic actions are and how far she's willing to go to get attention.

But I can't diagnose and it could be anything. I also know some people as well that show some narcissistic traits at an extreme level but it doesn't mean they actually have it. Again, it could be anything. I can't diagnose so I don't know but understanding how they behave can help me cope with their behavior. I'm not a therapist so I can't diagnose and you're right, the only people that can diagnose are therapists and psychiatrists.

[rdgrad15]

Originally Posted by downandlonely

My roommate in college said she had Aspbergers and diagnosed me with the same thing because I don't pick up on social cues that well. Ever since she put it into my head, I've been wondering about it. I've never been officially diagnosed with it though.

I struggle with that too, although not as much as I used to. I bet you don't have it, everyone struggles. Aspergers is defined as not just struggling to read social cues, but among various other things that affect a person's life and includes bad developmental problems. Your roommate was just being rude and judgmental. I'm sorry you had to go through that.

[MrGuermo]

Originally Posted by downandlonely

My roommate in college said she had Aspbergers and diagnosed me with the same thing because I don't pick up on social cues that well. Ever since she put it into my head, I've been wondering about it. I've never been officially diagnosed with it though.

Autism spectrum quotient score?

Autism Spectrum Quotient

Btw she can just project some of her traits on you. Autistic ppl dont read ppl too well, so I wouldnt be worried.

[rdgrad15]

Originally Posted by MrGuermo

Autism spectrum quotient score?

Autism Spectrum Quotient

Btw she can just project some of her traits on you. Autistic ppl dont read ppl too well, so I wouldnt be worried.

I agree with this.

Originally Posted by MrGuermo

Autism spectrum quotient score?

Autism Spectrum Quotient

Btw she can just project some of her traits on you. Autistic ppl dont read ppl too well, so I wouldnt be worried.

I got a 3 out of 50. I think it's safe to say that I do not have Autism.

[MrGuermo]

Personally I dont mind ppl talking about me. I think its rather interesting than noone talking about you. They can diagnose/analyze me and I like it. When ppl talking about me, it makes me feel more important. Every kind of emotions addressed to me its okay. I dont see any problem

[rdgrad15]

Originally Posted by theoretical

I got a 3 out of 50. I think it's safe to say that I do not have Autism.

I did it myself too just for fun and got a 20 out of 50. I don't have it. I'm awkward, but don't have autism. Yeah your roommate is just being judgmental and is projecting her own traits that she hates about herself onto you.

[rdgrad15]

Originally Posted by MrGuermo

Personally I dont mind ppl talking about me. I think its rather interesting than noone talking about you. They can diagnose/analyze me and I like it. When ppl talking about me, it makes me feel more important. Every kind of emotions addressed to me its okay. I dont see any problem

It is never comfortable to find out people are talking about you in a negative light.

Originally Posted by rdgrad15

It is never comfortable to find out people are talking about you in a negative light.

Meh. It can be a little amusing when you've earned for yourself such a negative reputation that the mere mention of your antics gets people's panties in a bind and they deliberately avoid using your name.

Of course, that's only when it's your intention to create a malevolent persona. When you're trying to get people on your side and they still treat you like a cartoon villain, then you've done something terribly wrong.

[divine1966]

It’s common.

women supposedly dating men with narcissistic personality disorders, when in reality these men might be just not nice people or might just not be interested in a woman. Doesn’t make them narcissists. I have a clean house, that doesn’t mean I have OCD. One is upset about an event, doesn’t mean they have depression. One has memory of a bad event, doesn’t mean they have PTSD etc People

I focus on peoples behaviors unless there is a reason for me to know diagnosis, then I rely on professional diagnosis

[Open Eyes]

There has definitely been a lot of encouragement to label people narcissists too. Um, it's pretty obvious why that has increased the past couple of years.

That being said, when spending time with a therapist that was very knowledgable about "trauma", he explained to me how unfortunately a lot of people who struggle with ptsd and trauma challenges tend to get misdiagnosed a lot. He explained how many of his patients had been misdiagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder, when that was not an accurate diagnosis and instead the patient was suffering from trauma and ptsd. Another very common misdiagnosis when it comes to ptsd is also bipolar. I have actually had a couple of therapists tell me that and explain how there is a difference between someone getting badly triggered and experiencing a hypervigliant state and someone experiencing a manic episode. Also, I have learned that many alcoholics are individuals who began drinking to escape the crippling symptoms they were experiencing that come with ptsd. Just because a person can be sensitive to criticism, doesn't mean that person is a narcissist either.

Yes, it's unfortunate, yet the trend has become that of many deciding that because they learned a bit about some label it makes them suddenly qualified to label others when in most cases they are totally inaccurate.

[rdgrad15]

Originally Posted by divine1966

It’s common.

women supposedly dating men with narcissistic personality disorders, when in reality these men might be just not nice people or might just not be interested in a woman. Doesn’t make them narcissists. I have a clean house, that doesn’t mean I have OCD. One is upset about an event, doesn’t mean they have depression. One has memory of a bad event, doesn’t mean they have PTSD etc People

I focus on peoples behaviors unless there is a reason for me to know diagnosis, then I rely on professional diagnosis

Exactly, I totally agree. Technically we all exhibit traits of many disorders, it's when it becomes profound to the point where your life is disrupted on a daily basis that it becomes an official disorder. We can all be a bit OCD, I can stand it when big objects are on top of smaller ones. I always fix it. But it doesn't mean I have OCD. I agree with everything you said.

[rdgrad15]

Originally Posted by Open Eyes

There has definitely been a lot of encouragement to label people narcissists too. Um, it's pretty obvious why that has increased the past couple of years.

That being said, when spending time with a therapist that was very knowledgable about "trauma", he explained to me how unfortunately a lot of people who struggle with ptsd and trauma challenges tend to get misdiagnosed a lot. He explained how many of his patients had been misdiagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder, when that was not an accurate diagnosis and instead the patient was suffering from trauma and ptsd. Another very common misdiagnosis when it comes to ptsd is also bipolar. I have actually had a couple of therapists tell me that and explain how there is a difference between someone getting badly triggered and experiencing a hypervigliant state and someone experiencing a manic episode. Also, I have learned that many alcoholics are individuals who began drinking to escape the crippling symptoms they were experiencing that come with ptsd. Just because a person can be sensitive to criticism, doesn't mean that person is a narcissist either.

Yes, it's unfortunate, yet the trend has become that of many deciding that because they learned a bit about some label it makes them suddenly qualified to label others when in most cases they are totally inaccurate.

Exactly, even professionals can make mistakes. And I agree, just because someone is easily angered by criticism doesn't make them a Narcissist. They just may have a more sensitive personality and may have even been burned in the past, therefore, don't respond to it as well. But it doesn't make them a narcissist. I agree, people who think they are able to correctly diagnose others are wrong and I've seen them be wrong too. In fact, like I mentioned, it makes the person who it unfairly diagnosing others appear stuck up and arrogant since they think they know exactly what's wrong with someone else, even someone they don't know.

[downandlonely]

I got a 27 so I might have Aspbergers

[seesaw]

Yeah, on the reverse side I don't think it's wise for us to second guess anyone's diagnosis as a misdiagnosis. Speaking as someone who was misdiagnosed (briefly by someone who didn't actually do a history or workup), if anyone feels their Dx is wrong they should seek a professional second opinion, not arm-chair psychs or pdocs like us, lol. Again, we can only see one segment of the story.

But, building on what OE said, due to a hormonal condition called PMDD, at specific times of the month I can be very irritable. It's nothing like bipolar disorder, but my dad (for his own various reasons) was trying to convince people that I had bipolar because I had bad PMS, basically. Yeah...He can **** off... Again, only seeing one side of the problem and also he wanted to negate my PTSD diagnosis caused by his abuse by saying I am bipolar (not bipolar, had many, many evaluations to try and confirm this).

What I do think is necessary are better diagnostic tools for pdocs and Ts. I feel that they often make quick diagnoses in one session, and most clients can't even open up in one session or build enough trust to say what's really going on. After 15 minutes they're going to prescribe brain chemistry altering drugs? Really? Sorry, I digress. Didn't mean to hijack. You get my point.

[Mendingmysoul]

Just did the autism quiz.Got 16.Just for fun.

[rdgrad15]

Originally Posted by theoretical

Meh. It can be a little amusing when you've earned for yourself such a negative reputation that the mere mention of your antics gets people's panties in a bind and they deliberately avoid using your name.

Of course, that's only when it's your intention to create a malevolent persona. When you're trying to get people on your side and they still treat you like a cartoon villain, then you've done something terribly wrong.

So you like having people talk about you badly? Sorry, just confused.

[rdgrad15]

Originally Posted by downandlonely

I got a 27 so I might have Aspbergers

Yeah but it’s not an actual diagnostic tool. More for fun.