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DocJohn · Nov 06, 2006 at 06:51 PM

This is a safe place where members of the community can go and discuss spiritual issues.

As a reminder, this is specifically not a place to debate issues of religion.

So to be crystal clear -- No talk of religions is allowed here, sorry.

Welcome and enjoy!
DocJohn

PS -- What is spirituality as opposed to religion?

Spirituality is:

1: of, relating to, consisting of, or affecting the spirit : incorporeal
2: of or relating to sacred matters

Religion, on the other hand, is a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices.

So this forum's main focus is to talk about spirituality, not specific religions.

seeker1950 · Nov 06, 2006 at 07:02 PM

I am glad to see this area in the forum. Is this a new addition. I have been thinking a lot lately about spiritual matters, and the large vaccuum in my life in that area.
Patty

kimmydawn · Nov 06, 2006 at 07:03 PM

Thank you so much, ((((((((((( Doc John ))))))))))))))

You're so good to us.

KD

radio_flyer · Nov 06, 2006 at 07:06 PM

Oh wow... this is soooooooo great......... Yeahhhhhhhhhh

TYTYTYTYT
Welcome!

Juleeo · Jun 22, 2014 at 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by seeker1950

I am glad to see this area in the forum. Is this a new addition. I have been thinking a lot lately about spiritual matters, and the large vaccuum in my life in that area.
Patty

Seeker, I just replied to your post a few minutes ago; now I want to ask, is "your artrox" your art? If so, your artrox rocks! It's beautiful. It looks rather like a kind of sculpture, but -- is it a painting? How large is it in reality? Do you do this (if it is yours) for a living, or as a hobby? At any rate, thank you much for sharing it; it's gorgeous. Juleeo

Rapunzel · Nov 06, 2006 at 07:04 PM

Thank-you! Welcome!

seeker1950 · Nov 06, 2006 at 07:19 PM

I would like to talk about a specific experience I had here...In this last relationship attempt I had with the Psych. Ph.D., I discussed my spirituality with him, to which he repied, "it was all in my mind."
Since then, in the emotional recovery, I've had a very hard time returning to my spiritual base, feeling somehow that revealing that to him contributed to the rejection. Trying to manage on my own, without spiritual support or counseling. I'm okay, but now looking back to my spiritual roots. Feeling the need for this, but also wavering.
Patty

Perna · Nov 06, 2006 at 08:09 PM

Gee, Seeker, that's hard! I think though that if we work out for ourselves what we believe, we're pretty hard to shake. My religious beliefs were shattered by reading a book. But, over the years afterwards I've built a spirituality of my own I'm very happy with and I don't think anyone could upset my beliefs now.

nothemama8 · Nov 06, 2006 at 09:24 PM

we have a IRL support that hubby and I facilitate and we set aside a half hour for spirituality support, so this is really neat to have here
Angie

IceCreamKid · Feb 05, 2011 at 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by seeker1950

I would like to talk about a specific experience I had here...In this last relationship attempt I had with the Psych. Ph.D., I discussed my spirituality with him, to which he repied, "it was all in my mind."
Since then, in the emotional recovery, I've had a very hard time returning to my spiritual base, feeling somehow that revealing that to him contributed to the rejection. Trying to manage on my own, without spiritual support or counseling. I'm okay, but now looking back to my spiritual roots. Feeling the need for this, but also wavering.
Patty

I am not sure what you are asking or telling here. If you cannot discuss a portion of your life -- the spiritual portion -- with your doctor, you could consider finding someone else to discuss it with. "all in your mind"? Well, what isn't in our minds!?!?!? Someone would tell me that, without further clarification and I'd get up and walk out the door.

cin1 · Aug 21, 2011 at 10:01 PM

[quote=cin1;1994530]most thoughts and experiences are in the mind i think. who is to say what is real and what is not? Because someone else disagrees does not mean you are rejected, they just reject what has been shared. no one can take away the Spiritual. i have my thoughts, my inner life does not ask for approval from any one. i don't approve of others at times.i am concerned with making life through one day at a time. should others ask me about "whatever" i am free to share. if not, then i stay to myself. cin1

Juleeo · Jun 22, 2014 at 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeker1950

I would like to talk about a specific experience I had here...In this last relationship attempt I had with the Psych. Ph.D., I discussed my spirituality with him, to which he repied, "it was all in my mind."
Since then, in the emotional recovery, I've had a very hard time returning to my spiritual base, feeling somehow that revealing that to him contributed to the rejection. Trying to manage on my own, without spiritual support or counseling. I'm okay, but now looking back to my spiritual roots. Feeling the need for this, but also wavering.
Patty

Seeker, I hear you; we can be thrown, 'rejected,' and just from my own perception, I know how that feels. But isn't it a relief that no matter how we waver, the truth is always there? A sturdy riverbed...a quiet, peaceful place.. for me, even when I don't feel that riverbed beneath me because the positive emotions have flown the coop, I know (head knowledge, but I know) that if I just take a step forward, I'll feel that riverbed beneath me, holding me up.

Hang in ... from Juleeo

PrettyTough · Sep 08, 2018 at 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeker1950

I would like to talk about a specific experience I had here...In this last relationship attempt I had with the Psych. Ph.D., I discussed my spirituality with him, to which Ohe repied, "it was all in my mind."
Since then, in the emotional recovery, I've had a very hard time returning to my spiritual base, feeling somehow that revealing that to him contributed to the rejection. Trying to manage on my own, without spiritual support or counseling. I'm okay, but now looking back to my spiritual roots. Feeling the need for this, but also wavering.
Patty

Ooooh that's so difficult to recover from. I'm so sorry that happened to you. I was watching a YouTube video of a very old interview from the 60's where a psychiatrist was diagnosing a woman with paranoid delusions because she heard voices. But the voices were of her deceased mother and sister and I was thinking. OMG that's not paranoia, she's psychic. How sad for that spiritually sensitive lady to be treated so. Anyway, you have to understand that a lot of people do not believe in anything after this life and so they have to conclude that. That's ok, you know better right? So, listen to your inward voice and move on. If it were me I'd drop that therapist and find one who understands. My therapist is a psychic intuit as am I.

nanaju · Jul 31, 2020 at 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeker1950

I would like to talk about a specific experience I had here...In this last relationship attempt I had with the Psych. Ph.D., I discussed my spirituality with him, to which he repied, "it was all in my mind."
Since then, in the emotional recovery, I've had a very hard time returning to my spiritual base, feeling somehow that revealing that to him contributed to the rejection. Trying to manage on my own, without spiritual support or counseling. I'm okay, but now looking back to my spiritual roots. Feeling the need for this, but also wavering.
Patty

Patty, I think it is very hard to go alone in spiritual life❣️❣️❣️ I am grateful that I came through addiction stream...and the 12 steps of AA/ NA/etc... They led me to the solid rock of agape love from which I have grown and am
healing❣️❣️❣️
😍... I see you had found a good thing...a heart based belief becomes a solid rock so no more wavering❣️❣️❣️❤️

bharani1008 · Mar 25, 2021 at 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by nanaju

Patty, I think it is very hard to go alone in spiritual life❣️❣️❣️ I am grateful that I came through addiction stream...and the 12 steps of AA/ NA/etc... They led me to the solid rock of agape love from which I have grown and am
healing❣️❣️❣️
😍... I see you had found a good thing...a heart based belief becomes a solid rock so no more wavering❣️❣️❣️❤️

I totally agree but it seems so hard to find genuine seekers.

babydoll233 · Aug 06, 2009 at 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rapunzel

Thank-you! Welcome!

i feel really stupid, what is DBT?? i saw you in another chat, i am new here and trying to find my way??? thank you!

Rapunzel · Aug 14, 2009 at 10:24 PM

DBT is a type of therapy, short for Dialectical Behavioral Therapy. It's a Cognitive Behavioral (CBT) approach with specific targets and skills taught, based on mindfulness (draws from zen and eastern meditation practices), as well as skills for interpersonal effectiveness and emotion regulation and distress tolerance.

Anyone is welcome to check out the DBT social group if you are interested.

mildredpatience · Feb 07, 2011 at 03:49 PM

Cool Acronym of Sow Good Seed- I'm going to share it with my Via De Cristo group! Mildred

WishingOnAStar · Aug 27, 2011 at 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mildredpatience

Cool Acronym of Sow Good Seed- I'm going to share it with my Via De Cristo group! Mildred

What is the the word that made the acronym "Sow Good Seed?" I'm intrigued!

Be Blessed!

SeptemberMorn · Nov 06, 2006 at 09:33 PM

WHOAAAAA!!! Doc John!!! Welcome!

!!!! I'm a firm believer that one can't reach full recovery without some kind of spirituality and support in that area!

Doc, I'm amazed!! Thank you so very, very much! Welcome!

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SeptemberMorn Most Legendary Elder Member Since Jul 2003 Location: CA Posts: 22,211 (SuperPoster!) 20 397 hugs given	Nov 06, 2006 at 09:33 PM #20 WHOAAAAA!!! Doc John!!! !!!! I'm a firm believer that one can't reach full recovery without some kind of spirituality and support in that area! Doc, I'm amazed!! Thank you so very, very much! __________________ Psalm 119:105 Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.
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