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Old Jan 04, 2015, 01:19 PM
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Is it ok to not believe in anything? Like just not actively believing not only in a religion but not being spiritual either. Just accepting and going through life taking the punches without worrying about the longevity of anything else, but despite people think you are crazy for the lack of belief in something is it ok?

This is sorta personal experience, but I wonder if I should keep doing that. I don't mind it, and I'd rather not have those answers or settle for something I find unsettling. Neither should I believe in something to conform with others who believe it too.

It was something I've wanted to know about out of curiosty.

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Old Jan 04, 2015, 01:56 PM
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You are on the best Spiritual path I can think of. So keep doing what you are doing.
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Old Jan 04, 2015, 02:20 PM
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Wow didn't expect that answer. good call aye
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Old Jan 05, 2015, 01:22 PM
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i really don't see harm in it.

it might take people ages to figure out what they believe in, and yes, their's probably many people who don't believe in anything- because they either don't know what to believe in, or in some cases, just not seen things in action
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Old Jan 06, 2015, 12:13 PM
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"Believe nothing. No matter where you read it, no matter who said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense."
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Old Jan 06, 2015, 03:05 PM
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"Believe nothing. No matter where you read it, no matter who said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense."
^ This

Excellent choice of quotes there Gus1234U
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Old Jan 06, 2015, 08:43 PM
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"Believe nothing. No matter where you read it, no matter who said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense."
I like this similar quote:

"Do not believe in what you have heard; do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations; do not believe in anything because it is rumored or spoken of by many; do not believe merely because the written statement of some old sage is produced; do not believe in conjectures; do not believe merely in the authority of your teachers and elders. After observation and analysis, when it agrees with reason and it is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it."

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Old Jan 09, 2015, 12:48 PM
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If you live in Ohio, as you indicate, your chosen path of no belief might seem odd to other people. There's a lot of religion there. But I guarantee you there are other parts of the country where belonging to a church or having religious beliefs are of little to no importance in whether or not a person is accepted by others. There are no public prayers and when people run for office, their religion or lack thereof, is not mentioned. Nobody has asked me about my religion or beliefs in years. Decades. Nobody cares. Yes, there are highly religious people around, but religion doesn't run the show.

From reading your posts, Yis, I've gotten the impression that you're on the young side. Maybe when you're older and finished your education and gotten out on your own, you can do some traveling and find a place to live that's more accepting and conducive to what you need. It's a big wide world out there. It's okay to leave Ohio behind if that's what you need. Or to stay, if that's what you want, and just be yourself. I wish you the best.
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Old Jan 09, 2015, 06:22 PM
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Old Jan 10, 2015, 02:42 PM
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If you live in Ohio, as you indicate, your chosen path of no belief might seem odd to other people. There's a lot of religion there. But I guarantee you there are other parts of the country where belonging to a church or having religious beliefs are of little to no importance in whether or not a person is accepted by others. There are no public prayers and when people run for office, their religion or lack thereof, is not mentioned. Nobody has asked me about my religion or beliefs in years. Decades. Nobody cares. Yes, there are highly religious people around, but religion doesn't run the show.

From reading your posts, Yis, I've gotten the impression that you're on the young side. Maybe when you're older and finished your education and gotten out on your own, you can do some traveling and find a place to live that's more accepting and conducive to what you need. It's a big wide world out there. It's okay to leave Ohio behind if that's what you need. Or to stay, if that's what you want, and just be yourself. I wish you the best.
My whole life is odd in ohio, people don't want you if you don't believe in something, having babies at 19 and getting married. It's like you have to drink and party make a lot of poor decisions go to jail and people think that's normal, but I guess it's not for me and so people are super critical with me.

I don't mean young people who do those things and people I'm around family and family friends I can't get away from it 24/7.
I am young, and I'm not in school. I graduated high school a long time ago for me at least. People think I'm in high school, when I should be a grad in college at least where I live. It's just that poverty has forced me in not to do what I want. It's not my poverty it's my parents financial suicide from years ago that put me here. I can't move out, I can't afford it, I can't travel or do anything. I'm always paying for all the bills that aren't my bills. Like I get how parents can let you pay rent and stuff and I lived on my own once and they wouldn't let me have a job and made me starve. I told them, I need money for food and I'm going to work here. I'm not a student, but I'm young and in need of a job and willing to work hard, but sadly I wasn't a student and they thought if I'm not paying myself out of debt in college I'm not worth bothering to talk to. So many days I've been starving myself, just to conserve food. I still do it at my parents though a lot, I try to eat as little as possible, and so I can afford the things that will help me make more money to leave, but it's almost like a hopeless cause. I just don't know what to believe now. I mean your comment is all I'm too well aware of, but I'm unable to do it. I pay for things that aren't my problem, like cable and things I don't even use after my mom went to a casino or got food with me. My parents aren't bad people, and my mom is the financially irresponsible one. I don't have friends or a support system, I have a neurological condition that's getting worse, I doubt it is stiff person syndrome gait even though I fit a lot of the criteria. That I can't afford to have basic needs at times other than food, water and heat. So if I want to get medical help I have to sacrifice food or something.

My point is, I have the biggest pet peeve against people who seem condescending even if they don't intend or were coming off as that. It just feels like, when you say, "maybe when you are older." I don't need that talk, I'm living the now, and knowing that I'm already there and have no time to look at the later of when I'm older, because I don't know how much time I have left. I don't really have anything to offer in my life except time and that's all I got anymore.
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Old Jan 10, 2015, 03:58 PM
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My whole life is odd in ohio, people don't want you if you don't believe in something, having babies at 19 and getting married. It's like you have to drink and party make a lot of poor decisions go to jail and people think that's normal, but I guess it's not for me and so people are super critical with me.

I don't mean young people who do those things and people I'm around family and family friends I can't get away from it 24/7.
I am young, and I'm not in school. I graduated high school a long time ago for me at least. People think I'm in high school, when I should be a grad in college at least where I live. It's just that poverty has forced me in not to do what I want. It's not my poverty it's my parents financial suicide from years ago that put me here. I can't move out, I can't afford it, I can't travel or do anything. I'm always paying for all the bills that aren't my bills. Like I get how parents can let you pay rent and stuff and I lived on my own once and they wouldn't let me have a job and made me starve. I told them, I need money for food and I'm going to work here. I'm not a student, but I'm young and in need of a job and willing to work hard, but sadly I wasn't a student and they thought if I'm not paying myself out of debt in college I'm not worth bothering to talk to. So many days I've been starving myself, just to conserve food. I still do it at my parents though a lot, I try to eat as little as possible, and so I can afford the things that will help me make more money to leave, but it's almost like a hopeless cause. I just don't know what to believe now. I mean your comment is all I'm too well aware of, but I'm unable to do it. I pay for things that aren't my problem, like cable and things I don't even use after my mom went to a casino or got food with me. My parents aren't bad people, and my mom is the financially irresponsible one. I don't have friends or a support system, I have a neurological condition that's getting worse, I doubt it is stiff person syndrome gait even though I fit a lot of the criteria. That I can't afford to have basic needs at times other than food, water and heat. So if I want to get medical help I have to sacrifice food or something.

My point is, I have the biggest pet peeve against people who seem condescending even if they don't intend or were coming off as that. It just feels like, when you say, "maybe when you are older." I don't need that talk, I'm living the now, and knowing that I'm already there and have no time to look at the later of when I'm older, because I don't know how much time I have left. I don't really have anything to offer in my life except time and that's all I got anymore.
I would think it was ok.
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Old Jan 11, 2015, 02:09 PM
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Yis, I'm sorry what I said sounded hurtful. That's not what I meant, but if I came across that way, I apologize.
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Old Jan 12, 2015, 12:22 AM
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Yeah even if it did, I'm not going to be a jerk about it and hold it against you being immature. I don't need to spend energy on that type of negativity to others from myself.

You're fine, I appreciate the effort of you reaching out. I mean you didn't know.

I was told by so many adults when I'm older, but I usually have my **** together on the inside more than they did, which ironically I find out most people are more emotionally broken than I am and they don't have nearly as much issues.

I figured it's just that they don't know, you can't blame them. At the same time, I can't help feeling that it did bother me then.

Now it doesn't, but I just get tired being thought as something I'm not when I'm fighting to get out of that spot. I think I've learned bigger life lessons at my earliest age, and when I had the biggest crap my life has ever went through at a very young age. I think from that point on, I'm trying to get back to a happy place that I did have as a kid, but lacked a lot of the resources people had growing up. My social skills were stunted, as in I know how to make friends, and be a good friend, but I didn't know how to say no. I didn't know people I trusted can really degrade you in a way in saying, when you are older. When in fact, it wasn't what they meant at all, they were avoiding in giving me any advice. I figured when I was going through a lot, they used that as an excuse then left me.

I had to learn how to be myself and not what others think of me.

I think I knew that as a kid, but didn't know how to till now.
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