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Women were worshipped and linages was matriarch based. The barbarians conquered these peaceful cultures. It only takes two generations for normal to change. "When God Was A Woman" is a good read for history from a female viewpoint. My theory is men figured out that their sperm was necessary to reproduce and women are still fighting for equality.

women are still fighting for equality

the Male god is a product of a male dominated culture.

This is what I'm wondering. Would the culture be different if God were popularly seen as female? Would a female God result in female equality? How would men/women feel if this situation were reversed and the majority worshipped "Her"?

Would a female based culture inflict a hierarchy into the culture? If a hierarchy is present there would be no difference. This cultural structure begats prejudice, rewards greed and unethical behavior. Land ownership and credit are invented.

You make a good point about the existence of social hierarchy and its' relevance to this topic. When we are talking about hierarchy, we are talking about power, and, when we talk about God, we are talking about power. It would be an immense study to completely understand in what way the gender of God relates to social conditions but my inclination is to affirm that such a relationship exists.

Let's recap:

Thunderbow said:

When it come to the universe, there is no gender.

Jo Thorne said:

I do like it, though, when I hear a sermon that discusses the fact that God has both "male" and "female" attributes

and:

When I think about the nature of God, I don't think of "Him" as a gendered being.

JD said:

How can you put a gender on pure truth and love?

LauraBeth said:

I believe that the creator is genderless

and:

unless you might say that there was something psychologically appealing/believable for ancient people to see God as a male, a great father.

doyoutrustmesaid:

God is referred to by multiple names. Some of them are masculine, some of them are feminine.

Gus1234U (quite cleverly) said:

i will say YES, i object to the androgenic portrayal, or conversely, the suppression of the gynodynamic deities.

nicoleflynn said:

God is a spirit.

(Nice nicole )

knit roses said:

Women were worshipped and linages was matriarch based. The barbarians conquered these peaceful cultures

All of these comments seem to uphold the idea that God is not male and only male. There are only a few comments to the contrary.

JD said:

For me, God is the perfect father. (Which, interestingly, seems to conflict with the earlier statement that God is pure truth and love and pure truth and love can have no gender).

AuroraBorealis75, asked (unanswered):

So who is God for someone who needs a perfect mother?

To both of these comments I ask: In keeping with good parenting as much as positive therapeutic form, wouldn't a perfect parent teach a child to eventually survive on their own, without the need of a parental figure due to knowing of his/her own inevitable demise? In other words, would a perfect, healthy parent, encourage eternal dependence?

Using an super parent image, is how Religion controls people with that image. One must obey ones father. It is an authority figure. It represents the authority of the church. It is all about authority and control. It all about social order and control. The aim is to keep one totally dependent on the church, and subservient to its control.

Ok what it is you want with this thread?

I asked How can you put a gender on love... but FOR ME God is the perfect father figure...
I have no problems with believing the way of the Book...nothing in it has ever been found to be untrue... that's plenty enough for me.

The anthropomorphism of faith is called religion. I have heard some say that heaven is similar to earth life but without sin, want or need. I have heard religious leaders say war is okay because God is on our side. We have not progressed much since the gods of the Greeks and Romans.

In 1927 the missionaries went to my father's village in Ray, Arizona. The missionaries brought back the Yaqui families. The Indios were converted, taught Spanish and given Christian names. My last name is not my real name. I am fortunate my Father passed the old teachings to me. Very similar to Mahayana Buddhism.

Ok what it is you want with this thread?

Ok, maybe I'm way off base here, but, I really don't think so. These references to "Him" that you make, they are really references to Christ or the Holy Father then, aren't they? What I have a problem with is how the forum guideline says no religious talk is allowed in this forum. Everyone except you seems to respect that. Not everyone believes "He" is the pure truth, or, even that "He" is pure love. You aggressively pepper this forum with these "truths" and "facts" that are only verifiable according to one source, and, in fact, have been discounted in numerous ways by scientific evidence. This is a website for psychological healing. I think the truth is relevant.

Considering what was done to your family you must be especially offended by the glorification of "Him"?

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