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Old Nov 08, 2011, 02:20 PM
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I'm watching David Hufford's video now. I'm to the point where he's talking about why people who have these sleep paralysis/hallucination episodes don't report them - even though they're apparently very common. He says people don't want to be considered insane. It made me think of the voice hearing experience. Apparently it's far more common to hear voices than we realize, but a lot of people who hear voices never tell anyone about it for that very reason - they'll be considered mentally ill.

Edited to add: Another interesting fact: you're more likely to have this sleep paralysis experience if you're sleeping on your back. I never sleep on my back. Sometimes I sleep on my tummy but usually one side or the other. I think I turn back and forth between the two sides while I'm asleep.
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Old Nov 11, 2011, 10:26 AM
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I see some similar characteristics of schizophrenia in the sleep paralysis experience. The last psychotic episode that I experienced several sleep paralysis type dreams seemed to be intergrated into it. It is important to note that many people can experience sleep paralysis without being psychotic.
Following Katan's theory that dreams are a discharge of excess libido and hallucinations and delusions are a discharge of excess repressed libido I feel that the scary sleep paralsis experience would follow more inline with the later. One of the books that I read on the subject,
http://www.amazon.com/Wrestling-Ghos...1023337&sr=1-9
The author states that by taking antidepressants you will be less likely to experience SP. There is an inverse relationship between serotonin and dopamine meaning the more serotonin floating around the less dopamine.
That might also be a reason why I started having those real strange experiences in 03 when I went through the Hep C treatment without taking any antidepressants. The less serotonin the more dopamine. From what I understand most antipsychotic medication block dopamine receptors.
Our brain releases the most dopamine naturally when we have sex by the way. That is the reason most people who take antidepressants report a deminishing interest in sex.


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I'm watching David Hufford's video now. I'm to the point where he's talking about why people who have these sleep paralysis/hallucination episodes don't report them - even though they're apparently very common. He says people don't want to be considered insane. It made me think of the voice hearing experience. Apparently it's far more common to hear voices than we realize, but a lot of people who hear voices never tell anyone about it for that very reason - they'll be considered mentally ill.

Edited to add: Another interesting fact: you're more likely to have this sleep paralysis experience if you're sleeping on your back. I never sleep on my back. Sometimes I sleep on my tummy but usually one side or the other. I think I turn back and forth between the two sides while I'm asleep.
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Old Nov 11, 2011, 02:03 PM
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Hello, this is my first post.

I haven't had a lucid dream since I was about 18 yrs old. They are truly amazing, if you could imagine TOTAL freedom, this is lucid dreaming. It started out as waking up, and looking around and thinking, something is not right, and then realizing I had woken up inside a dream. After than experience I soon started having dreams where I new I was dreaming as soon as It started, I would get excited and the fun would start. I tried to fly but I was never able to fly, only have the power to jump incredibly high and fall gently down, maybe cause I'm scared of heights. I could also run VERY fast, I would lean into my run almost to the point my body was at a greater than 45% angle to the surface, this way I could go extremely fast.

I think sleep and dreaming is still a largely unknown area of science, its fascinating, therapeutic, and exciting. I rarely remember dreams anymore, not sure why, I wish I could go back to my dream world.

There was a garden, old and secluded, with stone pillars and lion statues with ivy and vines everywhere. It was always bathed in the brightest moonlight, and the smell was like the smell of spring. The last time I was able to visit this garden I seen a set of steps, very wide at the bottom and narrowing as they ascended, with pillars at the top but no roof, there was a bright light and what looked like a female in a white dress holding their hands out toward me, as I climbed the stairs time slowed, and I had to try harder and harder, but I could not reach the top, this is the last time I was able to lucid dream, about 13 yrs ago.
Thanks for this!
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Old Nov 12, 2011, 11:32 AM
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Thanks for posting about your lucid dreams zcoder. Freud called dreams the royal road to the unconscious. When Freud and Jung were still friends they used to analyse each other's dreams. Jung would use dream work and also active imagination which he thought could actually be more productive than dream work. I think that lucid dreaming can actually incorporate both of those element. The author that I referenced in my prior post stated that he choses not to take antidepressants to suppress the SP because lucid dreaming can aid in individuation and wholeness which Jung considered to be the ultimate goal of psychotherapy. Here is an interesting documentary about Jung. He also met a lady in his dream similar to what you described.
http://watchdocumentary.com/watch/ma...59b928983.html
Also here is a link to a very good book that uses Jung's psychology that most people can use on their own.
http://www.amazon.com/Inner-Work-Dre...1115382&sr=1-1
Thanks for this!
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