Higher threshold of pain in sz?

ive wondered about this often after getting hurt over the years....

maybe pain is really mind over matter?...
but then...mental pain?...not so easily mind over matter?
maybe i have a high physical pain threshold and a low mental one

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I completed a law degree a couple of years ago myself, but I don't want to practice law so I opted not to take the bar exam. Good luck to you.

My son's problems are mostly delusions. He tends to be paranoid, as well, but that's just his personality. The paranoia does get worse during the episodes.

I've also mostly given up on biomedical psychiatry. The connection between body and mind is so strong, though. It's hard to sort out where one starts and the other stops.

I was a life-long insomniac, for example - literally from childhood. And I suffered a chronic low-grade depression. Nothing clinical. I just lived in a gray world.

All those hours I lay awake I spent ruminating. I was convinced for years that I was awake because I was ruminating. Then I went on a low-carb diet and accidently cured my insomnia overnight. And I realized I was ruminating because I was awake. And once I could get adequate sleep, my depression lifted. I did apply my own version of cognitive therapy to clear up the last of the depression, because I'd sunk into some depressive thought habits over the years, but mostly it was a biochemical problem. I'm still not sure what was causing the insomnia, but clearly the low carb diet eliminated something that was preventing me from sleeping.

I was vegan for four years, and it wrecked my metabolism. Funny how different people react differently to a diet.

My son tried a gf diet, and it made no difference to his symptoms at all. There are some people who have dramatic results, but they're a minority.

Thanks. He's not doing well at the moment.

I hope your son improves soon... But at least he had a period where he wasn't doing so bad. It's hard to anticipate those episodes. Your perception gets blurry. *hugs*

I've heard about this with kids with Autism but not necessarily those with schizophrenia. I seem to be able to handle pain more than most people though.

I'm not sure that autism and sz aren't related in some way.

I have heard some autistic people do experience hallucinations. Could be apart of psychosis?

supposedly they are alike
a lot
i heard the only difference in it is psychosis
since so many with the psychotic dx can fit the autism spectrum to

I heard quite a few theories that autism and schizophrenia are at opposite ends of one spectrum - like a range from 'extreme introvert' (autism) to 'extreme extrovert' (schizophrenia). I have no idea if it's a good theory, but you know what they say about spectra; they usually curve back on themselves and resemble circles more than lines.

I don't know if I'm being clear.

I decided a long time ago that what is called "schizophrenia" is actually lots of things . . . the psychiatrist actually upped my meds when I told him that because he thought it was so very delusional. I'm still unconvinced I'm wrong. I wouldn't surprise me either if there are as many "cures" as there are people with these experiences.

And I love the Rufus May quote in your signature Have you ever seen the documentary about him on Channel 4? It may still be on 4oD if you're interested. x

I agree whole heartedly. I once confessed on a forum - not this one - that I often worried that I caused my son's problem by drinking too much coffee when I was pregnant with him (which probably says more about my mother guilt than anything about my son!). Another mom chimed in to say that, no, that couldn't be it because she didn't drink any coffee at all when she was pregnant. I remember thinking what a stupid thing that was. Why does she assume that her child's issues and my child's issues have the same cause?

I think this must be one of the suckier things about having a psych dx - people discounting what you say on the assumption it's a symptom. If it helps at all, I agree with you - and no one's feeding me neuroleptics!

Quite possibly.

Is that The Doctor Who Hears Voices or a different documentary? I've watched The Doctor Who Hears Voices several times. I adore Rufus May. He also has an interview with Will Hall at Madness Radio: http://www.madnessradio.net/madness-...very-rufus-may. He also was involved with this interview about Evolving Minds: http://www.madnessradio.net/madness-...ealth-activism.

I got the quote in my signature from a different interview. I think I found it linked from his website: http://www.rufusmay.com/, but I can't find it now.

My motto in these circumstances is always that 'people are idiots'. Or I could be police and say, 'people have no grasp of logic', I suppose . . .

I hate the psych dx, and I despise psychiatrists as a rule - there are a few OK ones. I was lucky enough to escape all that a few years ago . . . There's no end to the idiot things that psychiatrists have said to me, though. I had one get into an argument with me about whether or not I am from the country I actually am from.

Yes, I was thinking of The Doctor Who Hears Voices. I've seen a bit more of his stuff, and I had the pleasure of seeing him speak at a conference a few years back. He seems to be not quite as active as he was 4-5 years ago.

I think there's the illusion that "schizophrenia" is one thing, therefore it has one cause and one cure.



You are lucky. It's what I hope for my son - who btw is doing so much better tonight. I don't know if it's b/c he stopped taking the fish oil or b/c he started swallowing huge quantities of antioxidants or both or neither, but he's hugely improved over what I was seeing this past weekend. I was afraid we were headed for another episode. He was getting very paranoid - including being paranoid about me, which is always a bad sign. In fact when he gets paranoid about me, it's almost guaranteed he's headed south. Then he shared a delusional "memory" of something that clearly didn't happen.

Hopefully he's still busy with patients.