Is there a connection? What I mean is, if you eat meds and they make you hungry so you take more and more food and then its obvious you (not YOU, im not saying YOU are putting on weight, I mean just you, like anyone!) will want to eat more food and put on weight, nd eat more and that means..............

you have to BUY more food! So the drug companies might be in like together with the food companies, because some are actually the SAME company , so now they have more customers. So its in the financial (its all about MONEY) interest of these industries for this to happen. Maybe they put some chemical in the drug that makes you hungry. I need to look into this, but last time I started an investigation into a big company they called the police and look at the mess Im in now.

[Piraeus]

Everything you do, look at, write, is being watched and monitored
This is why they have very few regulations on the web. It leaves it open
to do whatever they want to do.Who is they you say. All of the authorities working together of course.
What drives me totally nuts is, who watches the watchers. They are humans just like us. They make mistakes like us.There should be a system of checks and balances within the ranks. I thought that's what the Patriot Act was supposed to do. How wrong was I.

[newtus]

Originally Posted by Piraeus

who watches the watchers. They are humans just like us. They make mistakes like us.There should be a system of checks and balances within the ranks. I thought that's what the Patriot Act was supposed to do. How wrong was I.

there ARE watchers watching the watchers. although throughout all that is a level of secrecy equivalent to the freemasons secret. the freemasons hold their secrets to the grave - with blood. if someone whistleblows everyone involved with deny every word up and down and even deny the person being a member - maybe even stigmatize them/call them crazy - at worse put a hit on them. NOW IN GOVERNMENT whistleblowers USUALLY get killed - its masked as suicide - but those stories rarely add up.we need more whistleblowers that are willing to die for their country. but they dont. what stops them? money they could have and the power they can/will hold. and other things like protecting their family or children.

[newtus]

Originally Posted by HavingABadDay

So the drug companies might be in like together with the food companies, because some are actually the SAME company , so now they have more customers. So its in the financial (its all about MONEY) interest of these industries for this to happen. Maybe they put some chemical in the drug that makes you hungry. I need to look into this, but last time I started an investigation into a big company they called the police and look at the mess Im in now.

john hopkins university researched the AMPK enzyme in the brain that caused weight gain by antipsychotics.

i also read from someone that patients who are more responsive to meds have the worst metabolic problems with them. dont know if thats true though.

[DeadRedScorched]

dont think theres a connection. im about 6'2 and 190 pounds and have been on anti psychs for a year..and my appetite is normal i guess. andd ive always been kinda skinny.. plus im male so if i put on too much weight i can burn it off easy.

[DeadRedScorched]

ok wait..jeez i feel kinda dumb .. but yea some peeps do gain weight when on meds long enough..unless they combat the weight gain with excersise or something

[newtus]

consider yourself lucky though - deadred.

i tried to work my @$$ off to lose the weight while ON meds. and my fat @$$ was STILL there. the only thing that majorely aided in losing the weight was STOPPING the meds. that helped a lot but not all the way.

when i first stopped i lost 20 pounds in a month. didnt change the way i ate. (thats when i realized it was the meds. it scared me in fact). after that i took everything step by step. i quit drinking sodas and juices and lost another 15-20 pounds the next 3 months. my first year i lost probably 40 pounds. i lost the rest by cutting out fast food and eating less. the last fifteen pounds were the only pounds i had to eat lots of green foods such as vegetables and different fruits to lose.

i did this with very little instruction - what i read was online. it was all trial and error. i never attempted any fad diets. i applied what seemed like common sense weight loss and it actually worked. (stuff like eating less - eating green/fruits/what was naturally from the earth/moving a little - eventually doing moderate cardio like walking. all stuff like that - what they say is the old fashioned way of losing weight.) i was little surprised because theres so many diets and weight loss regiments in the world. and the thing a lot of trainers say "you just gotta do it the old fashioned way" ACTUALLY worked. i mean i had no idea cause i never needed to lose weight. NOT EVERYONE applies in this though. some people have physical problems and everyone is diff. one of the biggest things that helped me was telling myself something very true: that this was NOT a diet but a lifestyle change. because for most people it really is - no matter how they go about doing it.

i still eat bad. but my key to keep it off is eating less and eating at least half right. like i said i still eat bad. but i add vegetables in more and fruits. i eat fast food maybe 3-4 times a month. i dont drink sodas.

theres a few things though that i could cut out and lose more. still hard but i know i can do it.
i also learned diets are temporary unlike lifestyle changes. they are good for certain things. like if your a model and need to lose weight quick for a photoshoot or an actor/actress etc. or anything of that nature. because most people just put the weight back on after a so called diet.

all in all i lost 80 pounds.

[newtus]

ps though. i learned A LOT of weight loss tricks and tips that actually work too.

[DeadRedScorched]

yeah, i read that some people can lose the weight but cant keep it off.

Deadread you are right on both counts. Some dont some do. But that is the same for ANYTHING. What I mean is, it would be impossible for them to make just one drug to put weight on for everyone. Maybe that is why there are loads of different drugs, so different ones work on different people. and I dont think its the meds chemical that puts the weight on, but they make you hungry and increase your appetite. maybe thats the same thing.