[myvoiceshearvoices]

ill start off by saying every religion in every corner of the world has one thing in common. They believe in the supernatural. Whether they are called ghosts to Christians, djinn to Muslims, demons to Hindus, or entities to the new agers lol, all spiritual and religious people believe in outside influences that may not be visible to the naked eye.
Now ill get straight to the point. Many of our decisions we make day by day are often manipulation of these so called spirits. They are hired and trained and work for some people such as freemasons and other occultist groups to create a hell on earth. These spirits can influence our health as well by sending negative energy or thoughtforms depending on what they are hired for and are the cause for mental illness symptoms.
Now here is where psychiatry comes in. Those who are targeted by these spirits are often free thinkers, good kind people, honest and maybe even rebellious in nature. They are the type of person that would stand up for what is right and for the truth to be heard, and that is a big no no to those tyrants that we call our politicians. They are trying to create a modern day slavery system.
We who have these so called symptoms are already targeted and it often leads us to a psychiatrist and in my case forced to see a mental health professional against my own will. Its not a coincidence these politicians are the ones who pass laws that allow us to be arrested and sent to an asylum. THEN when we are in the system it is much easier for them to keep track of these free thinkers and also to label them and allow their spirits to get them into trouble. It is also true that many new spirits are assigned to the patient once they receive their diagnosis. The doctors are well aware of this and i hope one day they are thrown in prison for this.
i have personal first hand experience with this being targeted by voodoo priestesses and having demons summoned to attack me psychically, so if you dont believe me please dont bother replying or being an asshole. I am a 24 y/o male with a high 135 IQ. Im pretty sure i can differentiate what is real and what is not.

[pachyderm]

Originally Posted by myvoiceshearvoices

if you dont believe me please dont bother replying or being an asshole. I am a 24 y/o male with a high 135 IQ. Im pretty sure i can differentiate what is real and what is not.

Defining ahead of time anyone who differs from you as an 'asshole' does not seem to me to indicate a lot of confidence on your part...

I have met people before who claimed to have a high IQ. Frankly, I was not very impressed - they were members of MENSA but had not used their intelligence to obtain college degrees or use their intelligence in a positive way. Rather, they used the claim to intimidate others. Also, having a high IQ does not make anyone immune to emotional problems. Regardless of your IQ, if you are having problematic symptoms, e.g., you believe that you are correct and that everyone else is wrong, then you should seek assistance.

[Perna]

Originally Posted by myvoiceshearvoices

They are hired and trained and work for some people

Why would they be hired and trained rather than hiring and training if they have all that power?

I'm very sorry you perceive things in such an unpleasant for you fashion. It must be very uncomfortable.

I think you should edit this and put the trigger icon in. My paranoia gears are grinding.

No, I don't believe this. I believe there might be spirits in my brain, but they're not hired by politicians. And my IQ is higher than yours, by the way. Not that it matters.

You're entitled to your own beliefs.

[pachyderm]

i have personal first hand experience with this being targeted by voodoo priestesses and having demons summoned to attack me psychically, so if you dont believe me please dont bother replying or being an asshole. I am a 24 y/o male with a high 135 IQ. Im pretty sure i can differentiate what is real and what is not.

I wish I had the chance to edit my first reply -- actually what is there now was my second reply. I might have written:

You seem to be anticipating an attack. You might not get that.

Even this ^ may not the most perceptive reply you could get...

Most of us see a psychiatrist because we seek their help.

And most psychiatrists have nothing to do with religion. I know my psychiatrist's office employs no voodoo priests OR priestesses.

And in case it lends validity to my statements (in your mind), our IQs are about equal...but a high IQ doesn't necessarily lead to more educated arguments or common sense.

(Will someone please put a trigger icon on this post? )

Originally Posted by tractionbeam0610

(Will someone please put a trigger icon on this post? )

Yes, please. I don't avoid triggers, but this is very triggering for me. It might be very triggering for someone else too.

[pachyderm]

Originally Posted by tractionbeam0610

(Will someone please put a trigger icon on this post? )

Investigating one's triggers can sometimes lead to insight.

Originally Posted by pachyderm

Investigating one's triggers can sometimes lead to insight.

I've never asked for a trigger icon before, so gosh, I have learned something insightful today already!

[Pikku Myy]

ike to define my IQ with the sanity score...LOL

Originally Posted by pachyderm

Defining ahead of time anyone who differs from you as an 'asshole' does not seem to me to indicate a lot of confidence on your part...

[cool09]

There's nothing really "supernatural" about brain chemistry. It's science. Every element in your body is made up of an atom which has a nucleus and consists of electrons which rotate around the nucleus. And every molecule in your body has an electric charge (either positive or negative) with a certain magnitude (value). The # of electrons and the position they have in the atom determines how the atom is going to attract (and bind to) or repel other atoms and molecules (and to what degree). In fact, everything in the Universe is made up of atoms.

See, the body and brain are very complicated and it's all been proven. There's no hocus pocus involved. Science has been proven time and time again thru experiments. Einstein theorized that light bends in very large gravitational fields. And that was proven by the Hubble Space Telescope a dozen yrs or so ago.

Neurologists understand to a good degree how brain receptors work and we're understanding more how neurotransmitters work. Alcoholics actually grow more brain receptors that accept alcohol molecules on the synapses which is why the drinker starts craving more and more alcohol and becomes addicted. That's a biochemistry fact not black magic.

[pachyderm]

Originally Posted by cool09

There's nothing really "supernatural" about brain chemistry.

And the "demons" or "witches" have their own realities, I think -- just not something really "supernatural". It's just that, not understanding what they are, many mental health "professionals" dismiss such talk as nonsense, without trying to find out what real sense they make.

That's what I think, anyway.

[shortandcute]

Charles Manson has a high IQ and so did Ted Bundy.

[AAAAA]

Hello Voices, may I call you voices? First I’ll share a personal belief of my own. In my opinion Genius comes at a cost, history tells us that cost usually it falls into the mental health area. One of the things I believe that explain both phenomena is that a genius has the ability to see things differently from the general population. Some of these things lead to great leaps in all fields. Others are… skewed, again this is my opinion.

I do not know if there are ghosts. I have seen some pretty unexplainable things in my life. But here is what I do know. To be convicted (and therefore sentenced) in this country is a pretty tall order. There are exceptions of course but the bar is pretty high. I’m sorry that you did not find your experience with a mental health professional helpful. If you were court ordered to seek therapy, you had to be found a danger to yourself or society. That bar is higher still. We as a society give leeway for extenuating circumstances. We would much rather think that you’ve had a moment of poor judgment than to take your freedom from you. I would agree that our mental health system needs some work, especially in the legal system. But our pockets are not endless and I have no answer to the problem, so we are stuck with what we have until a better system can be found. I shan’t skirt the rules of this forum further by elaborating on this topic.

Here is another thing I know. Your “truth” and my “truth” may be light years apart. That does not necessarily make either of us wrong. You may be pro-choice and I may be pro-life (ß not an invitation for debate) while we each believe our stance, the other has merit as well. One “truth” that I believe to be universal is that the only thing that we can control in our life is how we act or re-act. We must own our actions and take responsibility and consequences. Placing blame externally will not help anything, least of all yourself.

I will share my opinion on your statement. I believe your argument to be flawed. If spirits do exist, and in my opinion they most probably do in some form, the spirits in my reality are kind and loving. I suppose then that the opposite must also be true somewhere. What motivation would they have to be controlled by a mortal human? What form of payment would they receive?

I am sorry that you believe that someone is sending negative energy in your direction. The logical solution to that problem would be to seek positive energy. A word of unsolicited advice is to show a little positivity yourself. Negative attracts negative. Think of the great men/women throughout history. The ones that have made changes to society in their own time; they took a positive approach. Look at the reactions to your thread. Your negativity received a like response. I wish you well on your journey. And please do show a little common courtesy and use a trigger icon if you are going to post that will upset our fellow members. I believe that you did know this thread would be upsetting based upon your last paragraph. A cause/reaction example is, you post an upsetting thread without proper notice. The thread is removed. The thread would not be removed because of some conspiracy; it would be removed because you failed to follow the guidelines set up in this forum.

[faerie_moon_x]

Hi! Welcome to PC!

I'm sorry you're having a hard time right now.

I haven't been able to read your other post all the way through yet, I have some cognitive things and it takes time for me to read sometimes.

I hope you can find some help and support here. I've had my own experiences which are really long and complicated. My goal is to find wellness, whatever that means. I think it is different for each person. So I hope we can help with that for you.

[diminishing soul]

Pachyderm, Voices did not say that if you're opinion differs you're an asshole. What he said was if you don't believe me don't respond 'or' be an asshole. I feel that our beliefs are our truths. If you choose to close your eyes to the possibilities then the possibilities are not there for you. I'm sure that 'if' the freemasons are real, then they are in whatever positions they feel will benefit thier society. Just because some choose to not believe does'nt mean these things do not exist.

[diminishing soul]

Thinking outside the box, takes courage to share. Kudos!

Originally Posted by cool09

In fact, everything in the Universe is made up of atoms.

No, this is very untrue. You have dark energy, which accounts for ~75 % of the energy in the known universe. Then you have dark matter, which we don't exactly know what is. After that, only 4 % of the total energy is left for normal energy, matter and atoms. There are photons, which are not matter, and I'm guessing make up a huge chunk of the 4 %, and then there are the leptons, bosons and quarks that aren't parts of atoms. Most of the universe is not atoms.

Originally Posted by AAAAA

[SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]Hello Voices, may I call you voices? First I’ll share a personal belief of my own...

I'm not trying to be mean, but do you know that you can zoom in on webpages instead of writing with a larger font size? If the text is too small for you that would fix the problem.

[KUREHA]

It's all those paranormal activity movies - they made you paranoid dude.

If you believe it though - that's ok, how can I say you're wrong.

Doctors don't care about ghosts etc, now gang stalking a lot get some extra cash for saying TIs are crazy.

Oh and I'm not saying you are wrong about this - just giving my opinion.

Just why would god let all the things that happen - actually happen, or like Super Ted - he can't always be there.

[costello]

Originally Posted by myvoiceshearvoices

if you dont believe me please dont bother replying or being an asshole. I am a 24 y/o male with a high 135 IQ. Im pretty sure i can differentiate what is real and what is not.

I'm not responding to say I don't believe, and I'm not trying to be an a-hole, but there are some pretty smart people who've been taken in by delusions. I've met some right here on this forum. And I've read about others.

Again, your experience may be entirely valid. I just don't want you to assume that people who have delusions are low IQ.

[seeker1950]

AAAA...what a great response! Worthy of copying and pasting on the wall to be seen every day! In essence, what AAAA said:
" One “truth” that I believe to be universal is that the only thing that we can control in our life is how we act or re-act. We must own our actions and take responsibility and consequences. Placing blame externally will not help anything, least of all yourself."

[lil-angel-wings]

I have a high IQ intelectual Questioning... I believe in the unseen spirits, and I believe that there is a conspirisy in government and mental health. I've yet to try to convince any one in that Phyciatric field of this , so I do not even try. It just makes them think that I am more dilusional and then they want to up my meds. I have found it is alot better to just not talk about it.

this however is a safe place to talk about beliefs. But just because some one does not believe what you do,. does not make them an ******Hole.

[newtus]

there IS a conspiracy.
people just dont recognize it yet. some do.
but when i say people i mean majority.

and while it doesnt work for many people - i have a belief that psychiatric alternatives would help majority of people. stuff concerning diet and sleep and vitamins. not even saying doing without psychotropics just either doing without at all or dwindling the amount.

theres a FAST FIX concept in american society though.

some people in the field do recognize it. most shrug it off for various reasons and the extreme few just work for the field and dont involve their mental health with psychotropics. ive noticed this more with "lower ranking" jobs in the field such as mental health techs and nurses and some social workers etc. but people are going to do what to do.

[newtus]

but on the conspiracy side ITS HUGE. its like seeing an island. then later finding out its made from evil molten hot magma. and it extends under the beautiful BLUE waters of earth.

EVIL LURKS! HAVE I NOT ALWAYS SAID THIS1? EVIL. LURKS.

anyway.
the problem: big pharma is 1/3. the american society is 1/3 and the american psychiatric system is 1/3.