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Old Apr 13, 2013, 04:20 AM
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i do not want to be on meds any longer! if im supposed to be this way then i am supposed to be this way!
being stuck in two minds is something of the past....im coming off them all! my true self is without the effects of masking my true emotions and intentions...it doesnt help communication them...it doesnt help anything!

farking hell....

this could go well if i want it to go well...and so it shall happen....please could anyone help me in preparation for the coming wave??
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Old Apr 13, 2013, 05:15 AM
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I don't take meds and I'm fine.

It's the gang stalking that's my problem.
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Old Apr 13, 2013, 05:18 AM
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It's the initiation that's my problem. I don't know when's its going to happen. Although I do know where. There are plans in place and I need to follow them....otherwise how will anything happen? Without conviction there is no action....
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Old Apr 13, 2013, 05:18 AM
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I'm fine without meds!! I will be fine without meds.
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Old Apr 13, 2013, 05:36 AM
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The meds make it easier for them.

Think about it - if you're chemically confused - you can't be ready in the same way as if you weren't taking meds.

That's how I see it anyway.
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Old Apr 13, 2013, 05:54 AM
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But if I was meant to be the way I am.... The way they made me...the way I am then its supposed to be. This is what they say to me. To be my higher self I have to be free from human influences. It's the only way my initiation will happen. But I do see your logic. But it can't be the way.
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Old Apr 13, 2013, 06:12 AM
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Never mind I know what to do now...
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Old Apr 13, 2013, 07:18 AM
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I'm sorry the meds aren't helping you, Ash.

Here's a link to the Icarus Project's Harm Reduction Guide to Coming Off Psychiatric Drugs: http://www.theicarusproject.net/down...e2Edonline.pdf

The best thing to do is to work with your pdoc on gradually reducing the dosage. If you quit cold turkey, there's a high chance you'll end up reacting badly to the suddenly withdrawal of the drugs.

Good luck.
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Old Apr 13, 2013, 07:52 AM
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thank u thank u thank u for that link! ill be showing this to my psychologist and pdoc for sure!

they thank u as well
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Old Apr 14, 2013, 06:31 PM
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i tell my pdoc tomorrow!!... i have a feeling he isnt going to like what i say though...but oh well im in control ....wish me luck!
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Old Apr 14, 2013, 06:56 PM
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i tell my pdoc tomorrow!!... i have a feeling he isnt going to like what i say though...but oh well im in control ....wish me luck!
Good luck!
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Old Apr 15, 2013, 08:35 PM
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well things didnt go as i had hoped...instead of convincing him to decrease or even allow me to come off my meds...i did the opposite and he said if anything i need an increase.

I dont think there is any hope of ever convincing him of my initiation that is to occur very soon...i need to cleanse my body of toxins in order for it to work! otherwise ill be waiting more years for this moment! and that cant happen...im just so tired of waiting for them to come...and finally i feel the moment that they will. It will happen though. ill make it happen.

maybe this is beyond me and they'll never come and initiate me...their merely implanting these feelings and thoughts into my head for fun...how do u know?...u dont...therefore u need evidence to convince yourself and others...
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Old Apr 16, 2013, 05:52 AM
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well things didnt go as i had hoped...instead of convincing him to decrease or even allow me to come off my meds...i did the opposite and he said if anything i need an increase.

I dont think there is any hope of ever convincing him of my initiation that is to occur very soon...i need to cleanse my body of toxins in order for it to work! otherwise ill be waiting more years for this moment! and that cant happen...im just so tired of waiting for them to come...and finally i feel the moment that they will. It will happen though. ill make it happen.

maybe this is beyond me and they'll never come and initiate me...their merely implanting these feelings and thoughts into my head for fun...how do u know?...u dont...therefore u need evidence to convince yourself and others...
If I were you and I was serious about getting off meds, I'd investigate other ways of improving my mental health. I'd find at least one ally IRL who's willing to help me and go to bat for me. And I'd find a doctor who was willing to work with me. I'd acknowledge that I might never get off meds althogether, but that I want to try my best.

I doubt you'll convince your doctor that you'll be initiated soon. I imagine that talking about that with him will reinforce his view that you need medication. I guess time will tell about that.

How do you intend to cleanse your body of toxins? You need to take care of yourself physically. Eat right. Exercise. Keep a regular sleep schedule. Don't do anything dangerous or harmful, ok?

If you look at the booklet at the link I gave you last week, you'll see that the people it's wrriten for aren't saying they don't have mental health problems and therefore they don't need meds. They're saying, yes, they do have significant problems, but they'd like to try methods other than medication to deal with those problems. I think if you'd take that approach with your doctor you might have more luck. But trying to convince him of the truth of what he considers to be delusions probaby won't work.
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Old Apr 16, 2013, 06:13 AM
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No....it probably wouldn't work. So I don't know why I bother trying to convince people about it...at least I stay believing in it and believing in them then nothing else matters.
I don't know what the cleansing will involve but one thing I am doing is exercising. Gyming it and all ...to cleanse by body further. But the meds need to go. I'll revisit the booklet tonight. Thanks for ur replies Costello...they're much appreciated.

How r u going btw?
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Old Apr 16, 2013, 06:21 AM
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Thanks for ur replies Costello...they're much appreciated.
No problem.

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I'm doing well this morning. Thanks for asking.
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