[Sometimes psychotic]

Restraints Banned After Man Killed | No Family Madder

Elsewhere on this site....it's a shame somebody actually had to die in restraints before they were banned in Massachusettes...ironically it sounds like they are banned in prison but there is no mention of hospitals...

[blackwhitered]

Originally Posted by Sometimes psychotic

Restraints Banned After Man Killed | No Family Madder

Elsewhere on this site....it's a shame somebody actually had to die in restraints before they were banned in Massachusettes...ironically it sounds like they are banned in prison but there is no mention of hospitals...

I hate restraints. If you want to make someone feel like an animal, congrats, you succeeded. The first time I was put in restraints they also put a net over me and a towel in my mouth.

But I prefer restraints to injections. There is something fundamentally wrong with giving someone "medication" to change their behavior against their will. It's like saying "You don't deserve to be yourself," or something. Plus they inject you in the butt. I feel like a rape victim, but I don't get the social recognition of a rape victim because what they did was perfectly legal. Or legal enough that no one cared about the mistakes they made because who wants to listen to the crazy girl...

[Sometimes psychotic]

Originally Posted by blackwhitered

I hate restraints. If you want to make someone feel like an animal, congrats, you succeeded. The first time I was put in restraints they also put a net over me and a towel in my mouth.

But I prefer restraints to injections. There is something fundamentally wrong with giving someone "medication" to change their behavior against their will. It's like saying "You don't deserve to be yourself," or something. Plus they inject you in the butt. I feel like a rape victim, but I don't get the social recognition of a rape victim because what they did was perfectly legal. Or legal enough that no one cared about the mistakes they made because who wants to listen to the crazy girl...

I never experienced either but just the possibility that somehow I would be considered less worthy of basic freedom of my mind or body because I was ill just really riles me up...

In the Elyn Saks book, she says that they are much less likely to physically restrain people in UK hospitals than in the US. I don't know if that is true or not, but if it is it's interesting. I never saw anyone restrained or forcibly injected when I was sectioned for 3 weeks, but I have no idea how representative that is of experiences here in the UK. It is something that completely terrifies me though!

*Willow*

[Sometimes psychotic]

Originally Posted by WeepingWillow23

In the Elyn Saks book, she says that they are much less likely to physically restrain people in UK hospitals than in the US. I don't know if that is true or not, but if it is it's interesting. I never saw anyone restrained or forcibly injected when I was sectioned for 3 weeks, but I have no idea how representative that is of experiences here in the UK. It is something that completely terrifies me though!

*Willow*

Yeah I read that in her book too but I just don't think there are many people who've been in the hospital in both countries so it's hard to tell by comparison and that was much longer ago as well. I guess one of things I don't understand is that they tend to use physical restraints and then give an injection on top of it...but leave you in restraints...to my mind using one argues against the use of the other although I think neither should be allowed without trying other calming tactics first this is like cops just shooting people or animals because they can you know...one of the solutions to this problem for cops is mandating video recorders and while I think there could be some terrible breaches of privacy if cameras were widely used in hospitals it might be an effective deterrant for the staff who just don't want to be bothered to talk to someone and find out what's wrong.

[RRex]

Originally Posted by blackwhitered

I hate restraints. If you want to make someone feel like an animal, congrats, you succeeded. The first time I was put in restraints they also put a net over me and a towel in my mouth.

But I prefer restraints to injections. There is something fundamentally wrong with giving someone "medication" to change their behavior against their will. It's like saying "You don't deserve to be yourself," or something. Plus they inject you in the butt. I feel like a rape victim, but I don't get the social recognition of a rape victim because what they did was perfectly legal. Or legal enough that no one cared about the mistakes they made because who wants to listen to the crazy girl...

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[faerie_moon_x]

On the comic news website I read they have been doing a series of "things you didn't know about...." which is written by one of their writers with the help of an expert. Recently they did one about mental hospitals. The whole thing made me shake my head, saying hospitals aren't like in the movies. One of the sections was about how they don't use restraints any more, "unless people are violent." Also fun ones like "everyone knows they have to be there and why." I got so riled up I had to leave a comment that you can't write an article like that unless you've been in every hospital because everyone's experience is different. And just because this is what you experienced in the hospital, or this is how your hospital runs things, doesn't mean it's the same all across the country, that for people with MI the goal is to stay out of the hospital, because it's not a fun place to be.

I've never been in the hospital, but I pay attention to what everyone here tells me. And that article just made me feel like this person had no idea what they were talking about...