I need to save the world

Question amazing blob...you're saying this is the government and you're an american and this is in pop music. So what about other governments...people who don't speak English? I mean we are kind of at war with some countries so I don't see this being a coordinated effort. Also I know for me much of the music I listen to doesn't even have words...it's instrumental or I listen to things in other languages and while they are technically words I have no idea what is being said. What is your experience when listening to world music or instrumental? Just curious ....

Gut feelings can be very misleading, particularly if your perceptions are off. They need to be examined closely and corroborating evidence found to confirm or disprove them. Few people will be persuaded merely by your gut feeling. And you undermine your credibility when you go around making general warnings far and wide based only on a gut feeling. You also may find yourself forced to talk to a psychiatrist since people might question your sanity.

Religious, traditional, and orchestrial music actually have tune. They were made before the government began brainwashing. Any other music is the way that I have described in other posts. Maybe it's that the u.s secretly controls all the countries, and wages war to make it look like they don't.

It became a guy feeling after just being a belief. I don't wanna see a psychiatrist. My mom is making me see one anyways.

Yeah that seems like a waste I mean the government really likes getting tax money from people...if they ran everything I can't imagine they'd be killing off a bunch of people who could pay them lots of money like that. Plus if they had the power to run everything why would they have to hide it? Maybe it's something else?

Well, before the u.s even existed, countries existed. Imagine how the public would react if the u.s openly took over the world?

I don't think they could do anything I mean if we really control all the governments of the world then we control all the armies too and thus all the weapons. There really couldn't be any sort of resistance...what could the people do? Besides if it meant world peace because we were all one country people might even be into it as long as they could keep living their lives like they want which seems to be the case right now...I just don't see a benefit to hiding it if you have that kind if power...

I see what you mean... It's probably limited to the u.s.

Alot of people have interacted with you since this. I was genuinely surprised that you are only 12. And to be honest i dont know , how helpful this site will be to you. Serious mental illness throws up a lot of challenges and its effects and symptoms , can be hard to take, even , for a mature adult. You seem to have some insight , in that you say that you say you have special powers , etc , yet you choose to comment on a schizophrenia and psychosis forum.

I am in my late 30's and have struggled for 8-9 years with psychotic issues and there is not an inkling in my core that would suggest that psychosis is something more than biologically motivated. Ie there is absolutely no supernatural element to the condition.
I wish you success in your life , your a young guy( i presume?) , and there is plenty of time, to see all the good, this life , has to offer you.

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Originally Posted by costello I do believe corporations target us with a lot of advertising and even try to change culture so that we consume more of their products. That's way more of a threat to us than any government brainwashing program. I suspect we're all more vulnerable to that advertising than we realize. Most of us think we're too smart, but those corporations spend a lot of money on research on ways to get inside our heads. The solution is to turn the tv off. If I went around saying that to people, their eyes would glaze over. People largely don't care.

I agree with this. This is a lot more worrisome than the government spying and trying to control us. The internet has become a powerful research tool, because it makes procuring data almost effortless.

My internet provider tracks customers for advertising purposes. Customers don't have the opportunity to opt-out, which is disconcerting. I'm fighting back. Sometimes I use Tor Browser, especially when I want to read newspapers. I also use AdBlock, and refuse to signup for any website that makes it money solely on advertising such as Facebook.

Bell must find my data useless, because I mainly visit science websites.

Maybe you can escape the government by living off the grid in the middle of nowhere.

I don't know if this will sail right over your head or not, amazingblob, but maybe it will be useful for people who visit this thread seeking information to help a loved one.

There's a kind of therapy sometimes used with sz call megacognitive therapy (MCT). UKE - Klinik und Poliklinik für Psychiatrie und Psychotherapie - Metacognitive Training Metakognitive Therapy for Psychosis Schizophrenie Psychose Metacognition emotional training CBT for psychosis CBT for schizophrenia kognitive Verhaltenstherapie f

Metacognition is thinking about thinking. Since people dx'd with sz tend to make certain cognitive errors, the idea is to train them to notice and avoid those errors. I tried to go through the lessons with my son a few years ago, and it just made him angry, so I gave it up.

The cognitive biases (which btw "normal" people have too but not to the extent of a person who tends to become delusional):

1. Jumping to conclusions: 40%-70% of people dx'd/sz gather very little evidence before arriving at strong conclusions.

2. Attributional style and self-esteem: casting blame for negative events on other people or institutions rather than spreading blame over multiple causes. Thought to be caused by low self esteem.

3. Memory problems: people dx'd/sz tend to have reduced memory vividness but are overconfident in their memories.

4. Bias against disconfirmatory evidence: delusional people tend to cling to their beliefs despite evidence to the contrary.

5. Theory of the mind deficits: an umbrella term covering a wide variety of things like social knowledge and competence, emotion and social reasoning.

If corporations are monitoring what I do on the Internet and everywhere, they are not very bright in grasping who I am. The stuff I get in the mail indicates they think they do, but it is just stereotypes they think fit me, and they don't! I find their attempts to put me in some kind of box funny.

I get many phone calls trying to get me to do something, and in spite of the fact that I never respond to them (I let my answering machine intercept the calls) they keep calling, and calling, and calling. Not a sign of intelligence, I think. No great, powerful masterminds there.

BTW, my browser blocks many ads, and anyway, I don't think I have EVER bought anything because of an ad I have seen.

bell? as in bell labs?

William Bell... From Fringe? Best sci-fi show ever. Cried when it ended
But wait... His lab was called Massive Dynamic.

I was referring to the telecommunications company, Bell Canada.

oh i thought u were referring to the american one. i didnt know there was one in canada

I just turned on AdBlocker recently - not so much because the ads bother me in principle but because google ads kept putting a photo of men's briefs on the side of the page every time I went to nytimes.com.

Some of these algorithms are good at figuring me out, some not so good. The ones that amuse me are the ones that give me ads for companies I already do business with, my online bank or my cell phone company, for example. Why bother?

The thing that worries me the most isn't ads. It's the more insidious stuff. They've been very successful at changing our culture to make us consumers. It's not a coincidence we've grown so fat, for example. Our entire food and eating culture has been reworked to make us eat more, starting from engineering our "food" to make it more desire (addictive?) to changing mores about when, how often, and where we eat.

That documentary The Century of the Self is fascinating - and persuasive IMO. It details how propaganda/public relations/marketing has been used to turn us into a culture who shopped for what we needed a century ago to one that shops to fulfill desires and wants now. And often the desire we're trying to fill can't be filled by the object we're buying. Our function now is consumer not citizen. And the economy grows by keeping us on a constant treadmill of consumption which necessitates keeping us constantly dissatisfied.

Ah yes -- but you don't have to go along with it...

No, but you still live in the culture. You absorb it, and you have to go along to some extent. There are cultural expectations which are sometimes enforced quite violently. I'm glad I'm not the parent of a minor right now, for example. I even worry that I might not be able to protect my son from treatments he doesn't want.

Forced psychiatric treatment is a perfect example actually. Driven by drug profits IMO. Harped on constantly in the media every time there's another shooting incident. I read comments after news stories saying it should be easier to forcibly hospitalize and treat people, that it's worth it to trade civil liberties for what they imagine would be greater safety. People even complain about the closing of the state mental hospitals. Do they really want to go back to that?

So here you have a cultural narrative - "The Story of Mental Illness" - being constructed by Big Pharm. It's fed to us probably in a variety of ways - news, advertising, etc. Mental illness is a biological illness passed on genetically and requiring life-long medication. Sadly people with mental illness lack insight into their condition, and they're also prone to becoming dangerously violent. We need to identify these people and force treatment (i.e., medication) on them.

And even intelligent people believe it. They believe mental illness is a chemical imbalance in the brain. It's like diabetes in that you'll have to take medication for life. Psychiatrists know there's no evidence for the chemical imbalance thing, but the average person doesn't. Why is that? Where is this story coming from? Who benefits from having the general population swallow The Story of Mental Illness hook, line, and sinker?

It isn't easy to go against your entire culture, and sometimes there's a price to pay for not going along.

True -- but it can be done. Whad'dya want -- a life without difficulties?

I believe our government is corrupt and is doing things to keep Americans from knowing the real truth, about what's going on.
You can only be brain washed, if you allow it. I do a lot of research and try to keep myself well informed, about what the government is doing.
Being well informed will help you realise what's going on. Right now, we're all on a treadmill just trying to survive. Most people don't have the time or energy to research what is going on in our government.

That would be nice, yes.

Actually with no difficulties, we'd probably never grow. But I could ask for a culture that valued something besides money and other externals. A love of learning? Caring relationships? Compassion? Maturity and self-control? Stuff like that, you know.

T'would be nice, yes. I am not holding my breath -- to do so would be to make my own life hostage to others (more than it is).