Now that seems a slightly aloof question that lacks empathy. I found that once i freed myself of this i could concentrate on what i wanted to do for myself. I reckon im here for a relatively short period of time and im going to enjoy myself as best i can.

Now discussing this with people with schiz related symptoms leads me to qualify what i have said. I do not think anyone who reads this should yearn for death , or do unreasonable acts because they are unafraid of death. I just think people should seek out a path that they enjoy. People here so often says that they want to die , yet are petrified of death.

[Sometimes psychotic]

I'm not sure however I think that if I got to the point where I was unhappy to an extreme extent and could not get better I would prefer death---so far as I'm aware only Belgium is progressive enough to offer assisted suicide to those with severe MI----I'm not so much afraid of death as being awakened in a worse state due to poor dosing or other poor judgement on my part. It's not any kind of yearning for death but the realization that death can be preferable to a life of torture. However I will admit that I do fear death in others as it's beyond my control and often takes something positive from my life. I imagine this is why we don't allow people to choose death in this country however I recognize that as being selfish on my part who am I to decide when someone else dies?

Originally Posted by Sometimes psychotic

I'm not sure however I think that if I got to the point where I was unhappy to an extreme extent and could not get better I would prefer death---so far as I'm aware only Belgium is progressive enough to offer assisted suicide to those with severe MI----I'm not so much afraid of death as being awakened in a worse state due to poor dosing or other poor judgement on my part. It's not any kind of yearning for death but the realization that death can be preferable to a life of torture. However I will admit that I do fear death in others as it's beyond my control and often takes something positive from my life. I imagine this is why we don't allow people to choose death in this country however I recognize that as being selfish on my part who am I to decide when someone else dies?

Yeah , i know so many people die in terrible circumstances , but often feel that people who are afraid of death , cant see past whats going on in their own heads. The truth is that it comes and is indiscriminate , something that we all have in common. Some die better than others but it seems, to preoccupy ones self with it makes a person , almost try to disassociate themselves from what befalls all humans making the person strangely and ironically above or aloof to someone else. Almost like they feel they deserve better.

Im not talkn about you , just a general comment.

[Sometimes psychotic]

Originally Posted by Materly

Yeah , i know so many people die in terrible circumstances , but often feel that people who are afraid of death , cant see past whats going on in their own heads. The truth is that it comes and is indiscriminate , something that we all have in common. Some die better than others but it seems, to preoccupy ones self with it makes a person , almost try to disassociate themselves from what befalls all humans making the person strangely and ironically above or aloof to someone else. Almost like they feel they deserve better.

Im not talkn about you , just a general comment.

Interesting---I admit I never really look at it as part of my core humanity and yet you are right it's really a key feature....

Well i have a few ideas on schiz that i would like to commit to an ebook and self publish. I suppose my functionality would have to improve first. Maybe in the next 20 years or so!

[Sometimes psychotic]

Originally Posted by Materly

Well i have a few ideas on schiz that i would like to commit to an ebook and self publish. I suppose my functionality would have to improve first. Maybe in the next 20 years or so!

You totally should....

[Atypical_Disaster]

I am not afraid of death, but I do have a healthy respect for it. I've never wanted to die.

[The_little_didgee]

Death is the unknown.

I'm scared of dying alone (an unattended death) and that it will hurt rather than what happens afterwards.

After a close friend died suddenly I became obsessed with death and human decay. It helped me cope in my own unique way. When I was despondent last winter I thought about death a lot and regularly dreamed about it. During that time I would visit reality websites and look at graphic images of accidents. Those images made me realize just how vulnerable and fragile we are. This morbid interest helped me make peace with death, and helped me get over my fear of dead bodies.

[Yoda]

I am not afraid of death for myself but I do have a fear that I could die while my son still needs me. He has not completed his education and only has a part time job and has no car so he is financially dependent on me.

Originally Posted by Atypical_Disaster

I am not afraid of death, but I do have a healthy respect for it. I've never wanted to die.

Yeah similar to me. I'm able to park the idea i will die.

Originally Posted by The_little_didgee

Death is the unknown.

I'm scared of dying alone (an unattended death) and that it will hurt rather than what happens afterwards.

After a close friend died suddenly I became obsessed with death and human decay. It helped me cope in my own unique way. When I was despondent last winter I thought about death a lot and regularly dreamed about it. During that time I would visit reality websites and look at graphic images of accidents. Those images made me realize just how vulnerable and fragile we are. This morbid interest helped me make peace with death, and helped me get over my fear of dead bodies.

I think that for alot of people , they say they can take death but if its my fault then man oh man they'll just blame themselves. I just see that as an extension of my illness , just another reason to blame ones self and make oneself suffer. So i leave it , if my illness behaves in this way there is little i can do anyway.

Originally Posted by Yoda

I am not afraid of death for myself but I do have a fear that I could die while my son still needs me. He has not completed his education and only has a part time job and has no car so he is financially dependent on me.

i must confess , i have no children. They way i look at this is we are only on this earth for a fleeting amount of time , a blip , really , and all my family will also die , so maybe i checked out before them , but in space time terms , and with a slightly unsound analogy , they will checkout a few seconds after me.

[serloco]

❝ LADY MACBETH : Come, you spirits
That tend on mortal thoughts, unsex me here,
And fill me from the crown to the toe top-full
Of direst cruelty.

Make thick my blood. ❞
- Shakespeare, Macbeth, Act I, Scene 5

❝ kiss me a little:
the air
darkens and is alive –
o live with me in the fewness of
these colours; ❞
- E.E. Cummings, from “XLVIII”

❝ A lovely young girl lies on a bed in the dark listening to a fairy tale,” I said.
“But she’s naked and the storyteller’s hands are all over her. ❞
- The Last Werewolf, Glen Duncan

Originally Posted by serloco

❝ LADY MACBETH : Come, you spirits
That tend on mortal thoughts, unsex me here,
And fill me from the crown to the toe top-full
Of direst cruelty.

Make thick my blood. ❞
- Shakespeare, Macbeth, Act I, Scene 5

❝ kiss me a little:
the air
darkens and is alive –
o live with me in the fewness of
these colours; ❞
- E.E. Cummings, from “XLVIII”

❝ A lovely young girl lies on a bed in the dark listening to a fairy tale,” I said.
“But she’s naked and the storyteller’s hands are all over her. ❞
- The Last Werewolf, Glen Duncan

I dont understand what this means. Care to tell me what your tryn to say?
Edit : My response might read as a bit negative , but I have no idea how to read your comments. Clarify if you wish. Cheers

[Terabithia]

What I don't understand is why although I wish so often for death, I do my best to avoid it, and I save myself from it time and time again. For example, keeping myself from getting hit by a car or checking myself into the hospital when I'm suicidal. So, maybe, I am basically frightened of death, or is there just something instinctual about survival, and to commit suicide you have to be really determined?

I am, also, scared of dying alone. I once doubled my high dose of trazadone, in need of relief from the turmoil in my mind, just wanting to knock myself out for the night. Anyway, as I drifted off, I pretended that I was dying and I felt no sense of a heaven that I would be going to, or a God that would take me into his arms. I was just alone, isolated. And I imagined my mom finding me dead and the ambulance coming, and it was dreadful.

I think that fearing death is human, not related to mental illness.

Originally Posted by Terabithia

What I don't understand is why although I wish so often for death, I do my best to avoid it, and I save myself from it time and time again. For example, keeping myself from getting hit by a car or checking myself into the hospital when I'm suicidal. So, maybe, I am basically frightened of death, or is there just something instinctual about survival, and to commit suicide you have to be really determined?

I am, also, scared of dying alone. I once doubled my high dose of trazadone, in need of relief from the turmoil in my mind, just wanting to knock myself out for the night. Anyway, as I drifted off, I pretended that I was dying and I felt no sense of a heaven that I would be going to, or a God that would take me into his arms. I was just alone, isolated. And I imagined my mom finding me dead and the ambulance coming, and it was dreadful.

I think that fearing death is human, not related to mental illness.

Yeah I suppose the point of the OP is that when that basic fear is acknowledged and surmounted , then that is huge progress for anyone. What you describe in terms of the pain death causes is perfectly rational. I suppose the greatest gift any person can have are reasons to live rather that framing it as reasons not to die. Easier said than done.

Its in essence a ,'theres nothing to fear except fear itself' type argument.

[serloco]

Originally Posted by Materly

I dont understand what this means. Care to tell me what your tryn to say?

William said "I am very weak, lazy, and don't have an abundance of guts. But, I guess most people are that way." to which Anjuman stated "Yes, in your awareness set, in your life, your blood, and as such so too do the shadows dance, as manifest - your light's form, as it should. Perhaps a sacrifice is in due, a letting of blood, let go the volumous account of measured past and let flow this void, to in this absence place and set new measure - spring forth.
-Derek Daniels

[serloco]

maybe there IS a pot o' 'gold' at the end of the rainbow? A full spectrum visible and together at once. And maybe light is life?