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Sometimes psychotic · Jan 15, 2015, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by medicalfox

I have a question, so if schizophrenics have too much dopamine how can they have depression since depression is too little dopamine or is it from too little serotonin? Idk if that's a dumb question or not, but idk much about the neurotransmitters.

Depression is way less clear but all the drugs with the exception of wellbutrin work on the serotonin pathways.....we're kind of guessing based on how the drugs work rather than any actual measured neurotransmitter levels and sz is complex and involves glutamate as well as dopamine....

Sometimes psychotic · Jan 15, 2015, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by medicalfox

It's never too late to exercise more as long as you enjoy it. I hate cardio since it's beat so I just lift weights since that's rather easy. I only find cardio fun if I'm on a bike outdoors or if I'm trail running in the woods.

My doctor recommended cardio---I already walk 2 miles a day but she wants more than that----I just don't find it all that fun----

medicalfox · Jan 15, 2015, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sometimes psychotic

Depression is way less clear but all the drugs with the exception of wellbutrin work on the serotonin pathways.....we're kind of guessing based on how the drugs work rather than any actual measured neurotransmitter levels and sz is complex and involves glutamate as well as dopamine....

Is that why Straterra is good for ADHD and depression?

Jan 15, 2015, 04:09 PM

Some ups and downs this past few weeks. Downsides: well lets forget about those. Upsides: Slipknot and an awesome pint fueled after party! I'm so broken, I remember only a few years ago being able to do three Metallica shows in a week and I'd be fine. One Slipknot show and I am in pain! Worth every minute though!

Hope you're all well!

Sometimes psychotic · Jan 15, 2015, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by medicalfox

Is that why Straterra is good for ADHD and depression?

I'm not sure I really don't know much outside the antipsychotics-----

Jan 15, 2015, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The_little_didgee

Yesterday I went to "therapy" and now I have a hangover from it. This doesn't usually happen. I'm disturbed about my past behavior, the 4.5 years of adolescence. I have forgiven myself for the typical things I have done but not the psychiatric stuff. I can't seem to shed it. It confines and hurts me.

The only thing I feel ashamed of in my life is my psychiatric history. Why did I allow it to happen? Why did I violate every one of my morals? Why did I let myself become vulnerable? Why did I allow psychiatry to treat me like a piece of ****?

I was just thinking that today actually. I feel almost embarrassed and ashamed of what's gone on this past year and a half. I put way too much trust in these services and was only let down.

medicalfox · Jan 15, 2015, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sometimes psychotic

I'm not sure I really don't know much outside the antipsychotics-----

I know a bit of other meds, like how lamictal also helps with depression. I'm taking two meds that help with depression which is great because I can't take traditional anti depressants due to them causing mania.

Sometimes psychotic · Jan 15, 2015, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by medicalfox

I know a bit of other meds, like how lamictal also helps with depression. I'm taking two meds that help with depression which is great because I can't take traditional anti depressants due to them causing mania.

Yeah most of us learn about the ones that impact us directly----

newtus · Jan 15, 2015, 04:26 PM

thank you for expanding on that junkdna and sometimesp. im not home right now so ill have to do some googling later but i will also read the link sometimesp. thank you

newtus · Jan 15, 2015, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sometimes psychotic

Dopamine precursors and brain function in phenylalanine hydroxylase... - PubMed - NCBI

Its made from 2 amino acids so you need protein....

wow i really dont understand that at all :/ :/ :/

Sometimes psychotic · 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by newtus

wow i really dont understand that at all :/ :/ :/

Basically there are 2 amino acids that come before dopamine one is phenyalanine and one is tyrosine like Junk DNA said, phenylalanine becomes tyrosine after the addition of a hydroxyl group. Theoretically having more of the tyrosine or even phenylalanine could increase dopamine levels but in this study they used tyrosine since its closer to dopamine. So if you eat a lot of high protein foods you will get a lot of tyrosine.

Sometimes psychotic · Jan 15, 2015, 04:41 PM

List of Foods High in Tyrosine |

Sometimes psychotic · Jan 15, 2015, 05:18 PM

Jan 15, 2015, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Atypical_Disaster

Well I like it when you post. I'd be sad to see you go.

Thank you.

Jan 15, 2015, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by medicalfox

I know a bit of other meds, like how lamictal also helps with depression. I'm taking two meds that help with depression which is great because I can't take traditional anti depressants due to them causing mania.

What are u taking for depression?

Jan 15, 2015, 05:47 PM

Thanks everyone for the support. I'm not doing well. I think it's more ptsd symptoms though or my meds are off. I see the pdoc tomorrow. I've only been sleeping around 5 hrs now for about 4 days and its not restful sleep. Could be a mixed episode coming on...

I ended up having a decent cry though. Released some tension.

I wish this were easier...

newtus · Jan 15, 2015, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sunshine1995

Thanks everyone for the support. I'm not doing well. I think it's more ptsd symptoms though or my meds are off. I see the pdoc tomorrow. I've only been sleeping around 5 hrs now for about 4 days and its not restful sleep. Could be a mixed episode coming on...

I ended up having a decent cry though. Released some tension.

I wish this were easier...

what do you have planned for the rest of the week?

newtus · Jan 15, 2015, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sometimes psychotic

List of Foods High in Tyrosine |

thanks for the explanation. and thanks for this list. this is a lot easier for me to understand than the article.

Jan 15, 2015, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by newtus

what do you have planned for the rest of the week?

Nothing much. See pdoc and therapist tomorrow. It's gonna suck. I've been falling asleep at like 8am and getting up at 1pm. My first appt is at 9:30am. So I'm just gonna stay up all night.

Why do you ask?

newtus · Jan 15, 2015, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sunshine1995

Nothing much. See pdoc and therapist tomorrow. It's gonna suck. I've been falling asleep at like 8am and getting up at 1pm. My first appt is at 9:30am. So I'm just gonna stay up all night.

Why do you ask?

just wondering. maybe trying to take your mind off your stress for a few seconds if i can.