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Old Apr 07, 2016, 05:19 PM
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I've heard of people with schizophrenia eliminating their medications and doing well. The late John Nash, a person who had schizophrenia and was a Nobel Prize winner, claimed that he eliminated his medications and fully recovered.

That said, in my nearly 40 years of having and studying schizophrenia I believe the vast majority of people with schizophrenia who eliminate their medications rapidly decompensate.
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Old Apr 19, 2016, 07:16 AM
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some people with schizophrenia can go medication free and others can not. there are some life situations in which a schizophrenic must go off their meds like pregnancy and there are some health issues where a person with schizophrenia cant take medications like allergies, heart or other organ related problems where that persons body cant metabolize the medication.

short version schizophrenia is a mental disorder where a person has hallucinations (sees, hears things that are not real) delusions (has beliefs and thoughts that can not possibly be real) erratic behaviors (uncontrolable rages, frequent or multiple sexual partners, disorganized speech, saying one thing one moment and changing to another when confronted, extreme energy similar to mania, emotions that for them is perfectly fine but others outside their bodies like friends and family have a hard time understanding,rough interpersonal relationships due to their behaviors and beliefs.sometimes have trouble with even the basic daily living like hygiene and other daily life skills needed for taking care of their self and those that are responsible for.

sometimes handling this in non medicated means is hard for those I know with schizophrenia but it can be done if they get the mental and physical health care that they need. the problem with those I know with this is the nature of the disorder is that when the treatment options are working be it medication or non medication treatment, the disorder tells that person they no longer need to follow their treatment plans any more, which in one friend of mine it results in their not being able to have pets due to their inability to manage the pets needs and has been evicted many times and many hospitalizations. her husband has custody of her children due to her schizophrenia impacts even something so simple as taking her children for a walk, the father has had to replace the older childs computer many times due to the mothers damaging or other wise getting rid of the childs computer meant for school work because she was so angry and paranoid when online in mental health groups and at times felt the computer was talking to her. At the moment though she is stable off medication and in non medicated treatment plans.
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I was diagnosed with schizophrenia and I have been doing really well in the last year or so. I wouldn't say that my disorder is making me think that I can be okay without my medication but rather that being on medication for years I was still unable to deal with thoughts and feelings. I went and did therapy for a while, even after the therapy I continued to see a psychologist monthly, changed my diet, and worked on my emotions and anxiety as much as I could. I've also determined that I most likely suffer from SAD, or Winter Depression. If I did not do all of this work on myself then I would still be suffering even on my medication. The main reason why I would like to go off my meds is that every other medication has given me side effects that I can't cope with (such as blurry vision that would not allow me to drive, or read etc).
I feel like I am better than ever but unfortunately I am stuck on the meds I'm on, which I don't like, but who ever really does? Or I can try lowering them.
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Old Apr 19, 2016, 07:17 AM
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I've heard of people with schizophrenia eliminating their medications and doing well. The late John Nash, a person who had schizophrenia and was a Nobel Prize winner, claimed that he eliminated his medications and fully recovered.

That said, in my nearly 40 years of having and studying schizophrenia I believe the vast majority of people with schizophrenia who eliminate their medications rapidly decompensate.

I actually didn't know that Nash eventually went off of his medication.
It's been a long time since I've been on my meds..
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Old Apr 24, 2016, 01:39 PM
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Yes, they can. It helps with the strawberries at winter.
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Old May 09, 2016, 05:34 PM
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I don't respond to any. Only the side effects.

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Old Aug 30, 2016, 03:01 AM
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I've heard of people with schizophrenia eliminating their medications and doing well. The late John Nash, a person who had schizophrenia and was a Nobel Prize winner, claimed that he eliminated his medications and fully recovered.

That said, in my nearly 40 years of having and studying schizophrenia I believe the vast majority of people with schizophrenia who eliminate their medications rapidly decompensate.
Wow there, John Nash won the Nobel for work done prior to his DX of schizophrenia
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Old Aug 30, 2016, 03:56 AM
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as far as I read in some research, it seems people with schizophrenia do really bad without meds the first 5-8 years but later they do better than those who take them.

Of course, some people say those who never takes meds are better after 5-8 years becaust they could stay without meds because they were less severe.
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Old Aug 30, 2016, 01:17 PM
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Schizophrenics should all be on psychiatrist prescribed medication.
If you can prove schizophrenics can live without medication then
do it. And not just live without medication live WELL without medication.
I've never heard of such a thing.

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Old Aug 30, 2016, 01:30 PM
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Schizophrenics should all be on psychiatrist prescribed medication.
If you can prove schizophrenics can live without medication then
do it. And not just live without medication live WELL without medication.
I've never heard of such a thing.

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Meh, I am doing it. Still have some troubles, but I am young

'The development of Open Dialogue is linked to evidence of its superiority to normal treatment of acute psychosis. After 5 years (1992–1997) of Open Dialogue treatment in Lapland, 81 % of participants had no remaining psychotic symptoms and 81% had returned to full employment. Only 35 % had used antipsychotic drugs (Seikkula et al., 2006). Similar results emerged from Tornio between 2003 and 2005. In the UK, only 20% of people diagnosed with schizophrenia would be expected to be symptom free after 5 years, with close to 100% of all patients with psychosis receiving antipsychotics.'
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Meds: bye bye meds
CPTSD and some sort of depression and weird perceptions

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thing whose shape is so alien a travesty that humanity becomes more obscene for the vague resemblance."
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Old Sep 07, 2016, 04:26 AM
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Honestly i dont know. But i still have voices and hallucinations with them. Relapsed last week on all of my meds.
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Old Sep 07, 2016, 01:28 PM
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I read some where once where you could divide schizophrenics up into 3 groups. 1st group might only have one psychotic break and then not suffer any other and be OK with out meds. 2nd group will find the right meds and function fairly normally by continuing to take the meds. 3rd group may still have a difficult time even with the meds.
As far as John Nash goes, I heard him say once that he thought that he might have slowly gotten better because his hormone levels started to lessen as he grew older.
Most people first start to notice psychotic episodes when their reproductive hormone levels are fairly high. I see a definite connection there.
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Old Sep 07, 2016, 01:49 PM
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In the UK, they classify SZ into 8 types
https://www.rethink.org/diagnosis-tr...ophrenia/types
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Old Sep 08, 2016, 01:50 PM
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I read some where once where you could divide schizophrenics up into 3 groups. 1st group might only have one psychotic break and then not suffer any other and be OK with out meds. 2nd group will find the right meds and function fairly normally by continuing to take the meds. 3rd group may still have a difficult time even with the meds.
As far as John Nash goes, I heard him say once that he thought that he might have slowly gotten better because his hormone levels started to lessen as he grew older.
Most people first start to notice psychotic episodes when their reproductive hormone levels are fairly high. I see a definite connection there.
Schizophrenia is a long term condition. If you had one psychotic break and then did not require meds after this , you would not be schizophrenic.
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