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Old Jan 15, 2017, 12:29 AM
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Desoxyn, I am in the same situation!

Fortunately in my case my psychiatrist is re-considering to give Ritalin a try since I react really well to stimulants like Bupropion (Wellbutrin) and caffein.
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I'm not doing all that well. I've been sleeping a lot and the only time I'm awake is when I take my online stimulant that I'm running out of so I'm trying to save every last bit until I see my psychiatrist in February.

I went a little over a day not taking it but eventually I get so exhausted that I get severe akathesia and I keep having to take deep breathes like I'm not getting enough oxygen and start sweating.

What I'm going to say to my psychiatrist is..

-The hospital psychiatrist took away the Concerta on the first day because I was pissed off, rude and said that I felt like ****.
-Next day I asked if he would consider prescribing it and he said he would if I don't abuse it and I said I wasn't abusing it in the first place I was just experimenting with other stimulants and then he was like... well... you abused it in the past! (I thought to myself.. ffs.. not this again..).
-I waited a few days and asked him again and he said that it's not the best choice for me.
So I said **** this I'll ask the rehab psychiatrist
-He said "I don't prescribe stimulants to patients with schizophrenia" (I thought to myself.. ffs.. this again? WHY ME)..
-I was going to quit the rehab and wait until I can see my outpatient psychiatrist to prescribe it back but I decided if I finish rehab (Which a lot of people don't because they just want to abuse drugs again), it's more likely that he will prescribe for obvious reasons...

Some people might think.. it's just a medication..

I'm not that type of person that needs Concerta. I'm that person that ACTUALLY needs it. Amphetamine doesn't work. Only methylphenidate does. And that's really weird for someone that had a lot of psychosis in the past and most people prefer amphetamine. More like 99%.. I'm different..

Why would a psychiatrist want me to sleep all day and not get to my highest potential unless he doesn't KNOW (Not believe) that I actually need it unless he's doing it on purpose?

People with narcolespy sleep the same amount of time that people sleep without it. Their quality of sleep is just very very poor. I sleep more than someone with narcolepsy. That's a real problem.

I'm not a cat. I have goals and I want to live my life to my potential.

Concerta for me is like insulin for diabetes. I'm sick of labels and what drug should be used for what label. With schizophrenia, stimulants don't bother me. Most people it does bother them so that just debunks the whole DSM-5 or 6 or what ever the hell they are changing it to because they don't have a damn clue. It's just a bunch of old men trying to make money funded by the pharmaceutical companies that don't care about us people that are suffering and they are literally KILLING us slowly to make more money.

DOES THE WORLD NOT SEE THIS THE OPIATE EPIDEMIC IS STARING AT THEM RIGHT IN THE FACE HOW CAN THAT NOT APPLY TO ANYTHING ELSE.

And the worst part is that not even my psychologist or psychiatrist believe that stimulants don't give me psychosis. I took ungodly amounts of doses of stimulants and nothing bad happened.

I'm trying to do research on my experience with stimulants and my reactions to it and how Abilify works on the D2 receptor where certain methylphenidates act on the VMAT2 proteins it's absolutely unbelievable but I can't because I don't have the energy and it's like people are trying to stop me from knowing the truth and if I complain then people will just think that I'm psychotic when I'm not. I haven't heard any voices in like a year.

If my psychiatrist doesn't prescribe, I'm going to convince my mom to order methylmethylphenidate which is the same thing as ritalin. It's safe and I can take 20mg twice a day. The most I've taken is a gram at once and nothing bad happened so I don't see how people can think it's unsafe when the metabolites are ritalinic acid the same metabolite as with ritalin.

If not, I'll do it myself.

I just want to get on with my life and go to school but I can't because I'm sick and people deny it like..

oh you're just tired because it's hot in this room FOR GOD SAKES PLEASE USE COMMON SENSE I'M ALWAYS TIRED AND I GET WINDOWS OF WAKEFULNESS DOESN'T MEAN PEOPLE WITH BIPOLAR ARE CURED WHEN THEY ARE FEELING BETTER FOR A PERIOD OF TIME OR SO.

I'm really sick of this and scared. I'm also glad that people are supportive here and actually care about each other. This forum isn't like the real world where people are such ********.
thats sad that your Pdoc is an A hole my abilify took away my hallucinations so I haven't hallucinated in 6 months but when I said I saw fae my pdoc looked at me like was nuts so she was " so you are still hallucinating then" and I was like hell no so she raised my abilify to 20mgs and it literally makes me feel like sh.t I went for a nap at 2pm and woke up at 10:30pm some nap eh?
its now 1am and I am not even tired ugh. just sore all over maybe thats from the reduction in the Topiramate/topamax from 200mg to 50mg crazy everything is sore all over like withdraws.

I hear my voices everyday except when I am sleeping I congradulate on not hearing voices.

Pdocs should stop playing GOD and listen to their patients.
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My doc wanted me to take Geodon morning and night to help me but when I took it in the morning I would go to work and then sleep for 2 hours. My boss understood, but I shouldn't have been driving to work. Sleeping through life is a terrible way to live. Are you taking Seroquel or something? That makes everyone tired. Or is this a negative symptom from schizophrenia?
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well I was hanging out at a friends house originally I thought I was going to be there for 30 mins but she wanted me to be her informat and keep an eye someone who came into her house(apartment) that every time she tried to get rid of kept showing up like scum on the bottom of her boot. She just doesn't know how to say "NO" I think! My pdoc won't prescribe me sleepers and I am allergic to seroquel.
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Old Jan 15, 2017, 10:52 AM
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Morning everyone. I'm not feeling great today. Having a few symptoms . Oh well this too shall pass.
Desoxyn I'm sorry your pdoc isn't listening. I hope you are able to talk to him/her in February.
Hope everyone has a good day.
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Old Jan 15, 2017, 11:15 AM
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I'm not doing all that well. I've been sleeping a lot and the only time I'm awake is when I take my online stimulant that I'm running out of so I'm trying to save every last bit until I see my psychiatrist in February.

I went a little over a day not taking it but eventually I get so exhausted that I get severe akathesia and I keep having to take deep breathes like I'm not getting enough oxygen and start sweating.

What I'm going to say to my psychiatrist is..

-The hospital psychiatrist took away the Concerta on the first day because I was pissed off, rude and said that I felt like ****.
-Next day I asked if he would consider prescribing it and he said he would if I don't abuse it and I said I wasn't abusing it in the first place I was just experimenting with other stimulants and then he was like... well... you abused it in the past! (I thought to myself.. ffs.. not this again..).
-I waited a few days and asked him again and he said that it's not the best choice for me.
So I said **** this I'll ask the rehab psychiatrist
-He said "I don't prescribe stimulants to patients with schizophrenia" (I thought to myself.. ffs.. this again? WHY ME)..
-I was going to quit the rehab and wait until I can see my outpatient psychiatrist to prescribe it back but I decided if I finish rehab (Which a lot of people don't because they just want to abuse drugs again), it's more likely that he will prescribe for obvious reasons...

Some people might think.. it's just a medication..

I'm not that type of person that needs Concerta. I'm that person that ACTUALLY needs it. Amphetamine doesn't work. Only methylphenidate does. And that's really weird for someone that had a lot of psychosis in the past and most people prefer amphetamine. More like 99%.. I'm different..

Why would a psychiatrist want me to sleep all day and not get to my highest potential unless he doesn't KNOW (Not believe) that I actually need it unless he's doing it on purpose?

People with narcolespy sleep the same amount of time that people sleep without it. Their quality of sleep is just very very poor. I sleep more than someone with narcolepsy. That's a real problem.

I'm not a cat. I have goals and I want to live my life to my potential.

Concerta for me is like insulin for diabetes. I'm sick of labels and what drug should be used for what label. With schizophrenia, stimulants don't bother me. Most people it does bother them so that just debunks the whole DSM-5 or 6 or what ever the hell they are changing it to because they don't have a damn clue. It's just a bunch of old men trying to make money funded by the pharmaceutical companies that don't care about us people that are suffering and they are literally KILLING us slowly to make more money.

DOES THE WORLD NOT SEE THIS THE OPIATE EPIDEMIC IS STARING AT THEM RIGHT IN THE FACE HOW CAN THAT NOT APPLY TO ANYTHING ELSE.

And the worst part is that not even my psychologist or psychiatrist believe that stimulants don't give me psychosis. I took ungodly amounts of doses of stimulants and nothing bad happened.

I'm trying to do research on my experience with stimulants and my reactions to it and how Abilify works on the D2 receptor where certain methylphenidates act on the VMAT2 proteins it's absolutely unbelievable but I can't because I don't have the energy and it's like people are trying to stop me from knowing the truth and if I complain then people will just think that I'm psychotic when I'm not. I haven't heard any voices in like a year.

If my psychiatrist doesn't prescribe, I'm going to convince my mom to order methylmethylphenidate which is the same thing as ritalin. It's safe and I can take 20mg twice a day. The most I've taken is a gram at once and nothing bad happened so I don't see how people can think it's unsafe when the metabolites are ritalinic acid the same metabolite as with ritalin.

If not, I'll do it myself.

I just want to get on with my life and go to school but I can't because I'm sick and people deny it like..

oh you're just tired because it's hot in this room FOR GOD SAKES PLEASE USE COMMON SENSE I'M ALWAYS TIRED AND I GET WINDOWS OF WAKEFULNESS DOESN'T MEAN PEOPLE WITH BIPOLAR ARE CURED WHEN THEY ARE FEELING BETTER FOR A PERIOD OF TIME OR SO.

I'm really sick of this and scared. I'm also glad that people are supportive here and actually care about eachother. This forum isn't like the real world where people are such ********.
. Dealing with a pdoc can be like dealing with a cop yes sir know sir you're right sir.....if you want something from them you need to be polite not challenging to them. Also it sounds like you're asking for a stimulant for the wrong reasons.....you don't take a stimulant to wake up that's abuse right? You take a stimulant to calm down and study if you have ADHD or something....it should help you focus not wake up......you need to ask for it for what they consider the right reasons.....I'm not on their side in this but you need to think about how the system works.
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I'm not doing all that well. I've been sleeping a lot and the only time I'm awake is when I take my online stimulant that I'm running out of so I'm trying to save every last bit until I see my psychiatrist in February.

I went a little over a day not taking it but eventually I get so exhausted that I get severe akathesia and I keep having to take deep breathes like I'm not getting enough oxygen and start sweating.

What I'm going to say to my psychiatrist is..

-The hospital psychiatrist took away the Concerta on the first day because I was pissed off, rude and said that I felt like ****.
-Next day I asked if he would consider prescribing it and he said he would if I don't abuse it and I said I wasn't abusing it in the first place I was just experimenting with other stimulants and then he was like... well... you abused it in the past! (I thought to myself.. ffs.. not this again..).
-I waited a few days and asked him again and he said that it's not the best choice for me.
So I said **** this I'll ask the rehab psychiatrist
-He said "I don't prescribe stimulants to patients with schizophrenia" (I thought to myself.. ffs.. this again? WHY ME)..
-I was going to quit the rehab and wait until I can see my outpatient psychiatrist to prescribe it back but I decided if I finish rehab (Which a lot of people don't because they just want to abuse drugs again), it's more likely that he will prescribe for obvious reasons...

Some people might think.. it's just a medication..

I'm not that type of person that needs Concerta. I'm that person that ACTUALLY needs it. Amphetamine doesn't work. Only methylphenidate does. And that's really weird for someone that had a lot of psychosis in the past and most people prefer amphetamine. More like 99%.. I'm different..

Why would a psychiatrist want me to sleep all day and not get to my highest potential unless he doesn't KNOW (Not believe) that I actually need it unless he's doing it on purpose?

People with narcolespy sleep the same amount of time that people sleep without it. Their quality of sleep is just very very poor. I sleep more than someone with narcolepsy. That's a real problem.

I'm not a cat. I have goals and I want to live my life to my potential.

Concerta for me is like insulin for diabetes. I'm sick of labels and what drug should be used for what label. With schizophrenia, stimulants don't bother me. Most people it does bother them so that just debunks the whole DSM-5 or 6 or what ever the hell they are changing it to because they don't have a damn clue. It's just a bunch of old men trying to make money funded by the pharmaceutical companies that don't care about us people that are suffering and they are literally KILLING us slowly to make more money.

DOES THE WORLD NOT SEE THIS THE OPIATE EPIDEMIC IS STARING AT THEM RIGHT IN THE FACE HOW CAN THAT NOT APPLY TO ANYTHING ELSE.

And the worst part is that not even my psychologist or psychiatrist believe that stimulants don't give me psychosis. I took ungodly amounts of doses of stimulants and nothing bad happened.

I'm trying to do research on my experience with stimulants and my reactions to it and how Abilify works on the D2 receptor where certain methylphenidates act on the VMAT2 proteins it's absolutely unbelievable but I can't because I don't have the energy and it's like people are trying to stop me from knowing the truth and if I complain then people will just think that I'm psychotic when I'm not. I haven't heard any voices in like a year.

If my psychiatrist doesn't prescribe, I'm going to convince my mom to order methylmethylphenidate which is the same thing as ritalin. It's safe and I can take 20mg twice a day. The most I've taken is a gram at once and nothing bad happened so I don't see how people can think it's unsafe when the metabolites are ritalinic acid the same metabolite as with ritalin.

If not, I'll do it myself.

I just want to get on with my life and go to school but I can't because I'm sick and people deny it like..

oh you're just tired because it's hot in this room FOR GOD SAKES PLEASE USE COMMON SENSE I'M ALWAYS TIRED AND I GET WINDOWS OF WAKEFULNESS DOESN'T MEAN PEOPLE WITH BIPOLAR ARE CURED WHEN THEY ARE FEELING BETTER FOR A PERIOD OF TIME OR SO.

I'm really sick of this and scared. I'm also glad that people are supportive here and actually care about eachother. This forum isn't like the real world where people are such ********.
There are more than one things here than I can remember so far. It's true you're in rehab for alleged drug abuse? Well, that covers a huge area. They won't prescribe you anything that will potentially destabilize you. Even if they want to. If anything did happen, which could possibly destabilize you, their careers are on the line. I know none of this seems fair, but it is what it is.

Also, you've said more than once that self medicating yourself is safe because you've done it before, that's not a good argument because you could go over Niagra falls in a barrel twenty times before the one time that finally kills you. I wish I could say something more helpful. You don't deserve to suffer so much, I think everyone here feels that. Thank you for your reply. roll call 84
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Oh me too. I've been trying to nap all afternoon. Every time I start to doze off someone wants something lol. Can't wait until 11.
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Had a hard day today. Been getting what I think would be breakthrough symptoms the last few days. Its like a wave of darkness just comes over me. I get really paranoid and the crows start getting to me and I don't know if they're even real or not, I mean surely crows shouldn't be that loud inside a house. Just finished 3 long days which are 12&1/2 hours each. So I'm f***ed. I'm struggling a bit with thinking the people at work are being nasty behind my back. I'm still taking meds so I'm not sure what to do.
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Had a hard day today. Been getting what I think would be breakthrough symptoms the last few days. Its like a wave of darkness just comes over me. I get really paranoid and the crows start getting to me and I don't know if they're even real or not, I mean surely crows shouldn't be that loud inside a house. Just finished 3 long days which are 12&1/2 hours each. So I'm f***ed. I'm struggling a bit with thinking the people at work are being nasty behind my back. I'm still taking meds so I'm not sure what to do.
I deal with that sort of paranoia at my job. I've found doing reality testing helps some...by that I mean going up to whomever I think doesn't like me and striking up a superficial conversation to see how they interact with me.
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I deal with that sort of paranoia at my job. I've found doing reality testing helps some...by that I mean going up to whomever I think doesn't like me and striking up a superficial conversation to see how they interact with me.


Thanks junk, I've kind of tried that but I feel like I'm being manipulative and that they're just pretending to be nice to my face. I don't like leaving the office because I know they talk about me when I leave. I think I need a supervision so I can get some feedback on how I'm doing. But maybe I still won't believe it.
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Has anyone here tried the insanity challenge? I tried it a while ago. I only managed to do 3 days lol but I'm gonna stick to it this time because I've put on so much weight recently. I've got to start eating better aswell because I pretty much eat junk food everyday.
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Had a hard day today. Been getting what I think would be breakthrough symptoms the last few days. Its like a wave of darkness just comes over me. I get really paranoid and the crows start getting to me and I don't know if they're even real or not, I mean surely crows shouldn't be that loud inside a house. Just finished 3 long days which are 12&1/2 hours each. So I'm f***ed. I'm struggling a bit with thinking the people at work are being nasty behind my back. I'm still taking meds so I'm not sure what to do.

I hope things get better.
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Has anyone here tried the insanity challenge? I tried it a while ago. I only managed to do 3 days lol but I'm gonna stick to it this time because I've put on so much weight recently. I've got to start eating better aswell because I pretty much eat junk food everyday.
Is it a diet...never heard of it.....
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Is it a diet...never heard of it.....
It's an exercise program. I always see the advert for it on tv when it gets late.

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I can't believe it that's so awful. Bless her I hope she is at peace now
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It's shocking

A person of our community is gone...
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