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Old Dec 14, 2013, 06:43 PM
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Was wondering. I was threatened by a case manager with this once. She's an MFT Intern. So frankly, I don't think she'd do it. She would need the pdoc's approval and the last time he didn't do it.

But I was wondering if this has happened to you even if your cuts weren't that deep? And if it's after the fact and you are not suicidal, can they really do anything about it?

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Old Dec 14, 2013, 06:57 PM
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Just the other night I had a little too much to drink and started to cut. The cuts weren't deep or life threatening, but upon finding out my mother called an ambulance. They told me I did not have a choice, and that I could either go to the hospital voluntarily or by force. So, from my experience, I would say they are able to commit you.

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Old Dec 14, 2013, 07:05 PM
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Just the other night I had a little too much to drink and started to cut. The cuts weren't deep or life threatening, but upon finding out my mother called an ambulance. They told me I did not have a choice, and that I could either go to the hospital voluntarily or by force. So, from my experience, I would say they are able to commit you.
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Thanks for the quick response. But can you clarify for me? When you went to the hospital, did they just evaluate and release you? Or did you get stuck in a psych ward?

I would assume the evaluation would be inevitable, but was wondering if it would lead to the psych ward if you were not suicidal?
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Old Dec 14, 2013, 07:11 PM
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Well, they sent a case worker from a company offering help to those of us who are cutters, depressed, etc. He went through some options as far as what to do if I am in the same situation. He gave me a number to call so I could speak to a trained psychologist for free if I ever need it. It was comforting.

Nurses took blood, and basically told me that I had to sober up before they did an evaluation on me.

When my breakup happened back in May, I admitted myself because of suicidal thoughts and actions. They took me up to the psych ward then. Let me tell you, you do not want to end up there. It's a cold waiting room filled with other patients (some not so much in their right mind) who are waiting to be evaluated. And you're there for hours, usually.

Fortunately, this time they spoke to me in my hospital bed. They just asked me basic questions, and I found it was extremely important to be totally honest with them, as uncomfortable as it was. They ended up telling me I seemed like I made a bad decision, but I was okay to be discharged. But thats not necessarily the case for everyone.

I hope this helped. Did I answer all of your questions?

Best of luck, really. We are a support system and are here for one another

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Old Dec 14, 2013, 07:23 PM
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Yes! That did answer my questions and thank you very much! I've been in psych wards before but never just for minor SI.

I had to go to the ER Friday night with a physical issue and had to admit, even though I assumed it wasn't relevant to the cause, that I had taken a lot of Xanax the previous Tuesday. (10 mg and additional 4mg) about six hours later when I woke up. The doctor said not to worry about it. I had explained my therp, pdoc and case manager at the PHP were already aware of it. Nothing else was said.

That darn threat my cads manager made about hospitalizing me for SI, just haunts me. I know if I do it, I would never tell her. Just my outside therp.
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Old Dec 14, 2013, 08:53 PM
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I had a patient come in today (work in the ER) that was a cutter and had cut his wrist too deep.

The nurses acted like he was likely unstable but he made it clear (and not in the nicest of tones) to the doctor and social worker that he was not suicidal (he called the ambulance himself thinking he cut too deep). They sutured him up (it was deep enough to be necessary) and sent him home. They had no legitimate reason for admitting him.
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Old Dec 14, 2013, 09:03 PM
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I had a patient come in today (work in the ER) that was a cutter and had cut his wrist too deep.

The nurses acted like he was likely unstable but he made it clear (and not in the nicest of tones) to the doctor and social worker that he was not suicidal (he called the ambulance himself thinking he cut too deep). They sutured him up (it was deep enough to be necessary) and sent him home. They had no legitimate reason for admitting him.
Thank you! That's what I was hoping to hear! I think any MH Pro worth their salt will be able to determine suicide attempt from a coping skill like SI. you've made my evening!

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