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Skeez, I am very thankful to be invited to participate in this Circle of Trust, the public and private.
I respect the principles that you have excerpted from Circles of Trust. I think having a public and private social group gives the best of both worlds. I hope to make at least the first half hour of the Monday meeting at 11EST although I do have an appointment that necessitates me leaving shortly after 11:30. Thanks again CANDC Quote:
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Thanks for posting this, Skeezyks.
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Hope all is well with everyone. I'm currently re-reading A Hidden Wholeness, the book in which Parker Palmer describes how a circle of trust works. I plan to post additional quotes from the book, with regard to this, as I continue to read.
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A scheduling idea, if real time interaction is of importance, which it does seem to be - presence . . .
1/ People post their own times they would like to meet. Here's one free online tool that simplifies a group doing this: Easy scheduling | Doodle After people have done that, it should become apparent where the overlaps are, and then decisions can be made as to whether one meeting suffices for everyone, or perhaps 2 or 3 different groups are needed, say each with set participants, perhaps. 2/ Online meeting systems can be used for meetings, with our without webcams. Obviously faces provide rich information when people speak, and equally obviously some people don't want their face or perhaps even voice, shown. Depends how you define "online" for the purposes of your meeting. Skype, I believe can be used for group meetings, and Google hangout for sure. I gave seen hubby using this for work. He says it's easy, but warns you'll need fake Google+plus account, because Google tracks you and insists on a lot of personal info if you use Google+, so there are issues to consider there. So, an attempt to provide some technical info that might be relevant to the problem at hand. As I won't be in the group at the start, I have no horse in this race. Edit: having read the last few posts, I see there is already a time and place for the moment, but I'll leave this here for any future use it might have.
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Skeezyks (and others,)
As we're trying to figure out how to proceed -- I very much agree with the idea of going slowly and getting it right, rather than rushing in for immediate gratification -- I wonder if it would be helpful to us to discuss each of the separate principles and practices in the forum or in chat. For example, as I look at the first principle as it's listed, I can see lots of area of discussion and learning and understanding each other's personal points-of-view. Quote:
The concept of the inner teacher can be taken literally or metaphorically, we can have a sense of immediate access or it can be buried, it can speak to us in every day life or in our dreams. Maybe we hear it and ignore it or maybe we hear Ego demands and mistake them for wisdom. So many possibilities. It would be fascinating to discover if we're on the same wavelength with this basic principle or if we're left saying, huh? Does anyone else have interest in discussing the basic principles? |
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i have been thinking about this all day,,, and it occurs to me that if we are to provide a safe place to introspect and interact, we must focus on becoming the kind of person who has those skills. i know i need to work on them myself.
how does one refrain from being the unskillful self ? how does one recognize when a mis-step has been made. what does one do with that information ? this group is more than just a place to feel safe, and learn to trust others; it is a place to learn to see oneself and trust in the stillness within.
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I have what might be a dumb question. Is the point of the group to learn to trust or do we need to trust from the get-go?
I am not a trusting person. I PM'd Gus to say I have to think about this whole thing before joining the groups. It's not that I don't trust y'all, I just don't trust - period. Have I got the cart before the horse about the groups? I got Palmer's book from the library over the weekend, but have not had a chance to start reading it yet. We have to have read the book before joining the group, right? |
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lizardlady, you raised good issues.
Right now, for me, I'm thinking of it as an opportunity to learn to listen to and trust my Inner Teacher more, with the company of other well-meaning people in a safe and inviting environment. Also as a way to encourage others to trust their own inner teacher if that's something they want to do. I can state my view of trust in this situation using negatives -- I don't "not trust" anyone here. Everyone has been very nice and supportive. If someone inadvertently said something I took the wrong way, I feel it would be easy to let it go. That would be something I'd want to work on if it bothered me. If someone was in a grumpy mood and said some critical things because they felt annoyed, I think it would be easy to let that go, too. If it bothered me a lot, I'd work on that within myself. I like the various participants. I feel no distrust. Will levels of trust increase? No idea. For me, feeling no active distrust of any of the participants or the environment here feels like a good place to start. I'm probably a little bit like you, lizardlady. I would not describe myself as a trusting person. But I don't expect anyone here to act out, act mean, steal my account information, attack me, etc etc. If anything like that did happen, I'd deal with it at the time. But so far, in my time at Psych Central, people have behaved well most of the time and those few times when people did get upset ... well, they were upset. That's something I can forgive as long as people settle back down again. If it bothers me a lot, that's something for me to work on within myself. The Principle and Practices of the Circles of Trust provide a structure that reinforces and amplifies the guidelines of Psych Central as a place to offer support and information to people with mental health concerns. I see it as very compatible. Because we all come here with various levels of emotional intensity or symptoms or home environments we may all have moments when fail to live up to the Principles and Practices. We're all human. So far I'm feeling no distrust. So I feel okay about it. |
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I'm just thinking back to one of Skeezyks' posts above, "wholeness does not mean perfection." I don't think trust means that you think the other person is going to be perfect, either. I'm not very trusting, but I'm open to uncertainty, and other people and their points of view always bring uncertainty. But only in uncertainty can we find new things. I can trust that and take those risks of discomfort. It doesn't cross into unsafety, so to speak.
Disclaimer: while I've looked at the site linked above and read all the posts, I haven't studied the book, yet.
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these are the signs of a spiritual life, i have come to believe:
“Relational trust is built on movements of the human heart such as empathy, commitment, compassion, patience, and the capacity to forgive.” ― Parker J. Palmer, The Courage to Teach: Exploring the Inner Landscape of a Teacher's Life
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Hey, whatever happened with this project? Did a chat room ever happen? Anyone know?
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