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Legendary Wise Elder
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#1
There are different types of prostitution, though most of what we hear about are females being abused or arrested. Male, female, children are all prostituted.
The wearing of hats by women in church is a Bible thing, not a male dominance demand. If we really think about this, there is plenty of prostitution going on in the world: men who have their "girl friends" move in with them without any other commitment can be considered one aspect of it. He's paying for it, but not in the obvious way of cash in the motel room or back alley. There is a horrific child trafficking problem not just in other countries, but in the USA. http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/lis...factsheet.html I doubt that making adult prostitution legal would make less child prostituting and trafficking. __________________ |
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It does fit into the thread though, because in ancient times, prostitutes went about without any veil or head covering, thus showing their refusal to be in submission to God or any man, a type of early feminism perhaps? __________________ |
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Not to be confused with the correct reference person, Samson (Thanks, JD :-)
I think in any male/female interaction involving money, business, etc. the female is (still) going to be at a disadvantage because power is still with males. __________________ "Never give a sword to a man who can't dance." ~Confucius |
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I think legalizing prostitution would have benefits and withdrawals. No, it wouldn't stop some of the abuse, but it would help some. It's legal in one county in Nevada (last I checked), and there hasn't been one STD reported with the women getting tested regularly and using condoms.
Pimps are known to beat and rape the women who work for them. The pimp lifestyle is glorified and makes me sick. The women are usually afraid to say anything when they're arrested (and yes, it's usually the prostitute, not the john or the pimp, who gets in trouble), because they know the pimp can and will harm them or someone they love. I also get angry about people who speak about prostitutes in a derogatory fashion, because most didn't choose the profession, and others didn't know what they were getting into. The few (I believe it's only a few) who are happy being prostitutes don't deserve to be denigrated, either. Women are still sluts, while men are still studs. __________________ Maven If I had a dollar for every time I got distracted, I wish I had some ice cream. Equal Rights Are Not Special Rights |
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I don't like to see anyone talked poorly about and prostitutes are no different however, while I agree that many didn't know what they were getting into, I do disagree that most didn't choose the profession unless you are referring to 'economically forced' but I still think that's a choice. |
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Wanted to comment on the "street prostitution" comment... In my opinion, if prostitution was legal, there would be no need for street prostitutes. Actually one reason for making prostitution legal would keep the "ladies of the night" off the streets and in a safer environment..
Also pimps would be history as they would no longer be needed. Come to think of it, the ladies would get a bigger cut of the money earned without pimps. So legalizing prostitution would remove both the "ladies" and pimps from the streets... Dang what would the world be like with "professional prostitutes" making enough money to be on the Forbes list, world's richest people... grins |
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I jumped right in without thinking, thinking I had all the answers and in reality I have none. I should not have responded in any way to the "child trafficking" issue. Thinking right off hand that legalizing prostituion would solve some of the world's problems with abuse of women, children and even men. Maybe just a small percentage but even that is a start..
But then the topic is "why is prostitution illegal". Thinking the topic would focus only on "folks" that are of age and not minors. But again, "prostitution" touches on many areas. Unfortunately it can touch on drugs and abuse of minors...Maybe this thread wasn't such a good idea....I guess in my "magical thinking" that if prostitution was legal, there would be less abuse towards "people" men, women. Especially those of "legal age" that are "working" the streets...Minors never enter my mind at the time I started the thread............ |
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I wish more people would question things that seem out of kilter, and quit just accepting things that feel wrong. yes... even that is a start-- like you said..... unfortunately things illegal have all kinds of unpleasant branches that stem off of the base.... like girls that claim they are 18 when only 15 and being prostituted.(and no one really checks-- it's the money or the sex they are more interested in, not the well being of the girl) Men use them and then go to their 14 year old daughter's soccer game and take all the girls out for pizza-- how "effed" up is that? ....maybe if it was legal-- officials would be regulating it and thoroughly checking the age of the prostitutes-- that would be a good thing(IMO) I appreciate your hopeful pondering... I do very similar. I so don't want anyone to be treated unfairly, to feel less than, to be abused by those with more power/money. fins __________________ “What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us.” ― Ralph Waldo Emerson |
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radio, I understand the desire to fix all the problems in the world. I do think that legalization of many of the random things governments deem as illegal would go a long way to helping and not hurting. You have a good and valid question and I think for the most part, a lot of thoughtful replies have been added.
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Thanks perpetuallysad. And, yes,I agree, there are alot of thoughtful responses. I wanted to respond to several other responses, but I tripped over my own thoughts and retreated. Silly me..So I am back on target ..I think..
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I think it's a good topic and I'm not sure where I stand opinion wise because there's pros and cons on both sides. If they would legalize it, then wouldn't it end like Holland or Nevada where there's a special area in a town- this would be a problem because no one would want it in their neighborhood.
This is off topic, but it really sizzles me the way some countries in the Orient(can't remember which ones) have child prostitution. Men from North American will plan trips specifically for that. Sadly it's actually a tourist attraction....grrr __________________ This is our little cutie Bella *Practice on-line safety. *Cheaters - collecting jar of hearts. *Make your mess, your message. *"Be the change you want to see" (Gandhi) Last edited by lynn P.; Jul 08, 2010 at 01:30 PM.. |
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thank you purple fins I'm with you as not wanting anyone to be treated unfairly. Unfortunately, it happens every day.....
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AkAngel, you're right...it was HIV I meant, not all STD's. I forgot a bit of what I used to know.
As for the other thing you commented on, I think most women don't choose to go into the profession; a lot do, but I think far more often, teenagers (especially runaways from a bad home environment) meet up with pimps, who take them in and make the girls or boys feel they need the pimp, and then it turns into abuse and cruelty. I read a book called SEX WORK or SEX WORKERS, a while back, all writings by women who have prostituted, escorted or worked the streets, not all negative, but most were. __________________ Maven If I had a dollar for every time I got distracted, I wish I had some ice cream. Equal Rights Are Not Special Rights |
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All good and thoughtful responses here. I've refrained from writing a response because my personal opinion is that prostitution is a subjugation of women (or men) who offer themselves in the sex act for money. Yeah, I know it's the "oldest profession" and I visualize those footsteps in Pompeii..follow to the brothel. But I still think it's sad.
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These are just some random thoughts...
I think prostitution would be "liberating" for women. Why would I think such a thing? Well, if prostitution would be legal then it would be woman's choice to sell her "services", she would then be in control. She has a service a man wants, he pays for it. Like buying a car. Take his pick, pay for it, everyone is happy. She pockets the money and he leaves with a smile....... There still is a huge "moral" issue to all of this.. But then why would it be a moral issue when morals generally are not considered when "dating". Free sex is ok? But to pay for it is not? Before ya know it, one has slept with l0 different folks or more. So what then is wrong with legalizing prostitution. Only difference here might be the feeling if one has "feelings" or say "I love you", then sex is ok...??? not a moral issue then.. right? Why would it then be a moral issue with prostitution.. Sex is used to sell cars, food, clothing and perfume..almost everything. Put that sexy girl or sexy man in front of a bottle of $200 perfume and the perfume sells really fast.. We are scraping our pennies to buy that perfume and the manufacturer is laughing all the way to the bank.. |
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One of the reasons it's a moral issue is because many married men hire prostitutes. Maybe some women think if it's legalized, it would make it easier for men to cheat IDK.
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I can't agree with this, if a woman's husband, or a husband's wife were cheating with them on a prostitute then that person is a piece of trash lol. Legalizing prostitution isn't going to make it easier, it wont even make a difference. It's easy to have sex with a woman for free, I know at least 5 females I could get down with if I wanted for free. Besides if you're married to someone good and you take care of your lover bother emotionally and physically you shouldn't have anything to worry about. You know? The majority of people who see it as a moral issue probably have low self esteem and are paranoid. __________________ "Tear down the wall" |
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