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Old Jun 21, 2013, 08:15 PM
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I am not trying to impose my morality on them. It's just that i prefer someone tell me that I've been doing things wrong so that I can seek help now. I mean, really, i would rather socialize.

That's the thing, about being on a psyche board. In therapy, it's taught that feelings aren't about being right or wrong.

It's hard, starting high school, as the new person, I know, I was moved around a few times in my lifetime. I went from 7th grade to 8th grade in different states. Then in 10th grade I transferred to a new city, altogether.

It's hard not having all those social bonds that others form through the years of growing up together. Even the parents involved aren't as familiar with one another. My 4th grader, soon to be 5th grader, often talks about others, in terms of what grade they started his school.

These others kids in your school, could very well have been out playing sports together since they were kids. 5/6 year old kids.

Society is difficult too, because some households have two parents working and others have one. And without the bonding over the years of time spent at various events together, how is so and so's parents even supposed to realize that maybe they could offer to have the new kid over to their home for dinner.

And if you aren't reaching out to say, hey, let's hang out together, how would your IRL friends know that you may want to get out of the home?

Do you use XBOX LIVE, at all?! It's been really fun to listen to my son, talk to his classmates!!!

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Old Jun 21, 2013, 08:54 PM
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I can come up with one thing that is wrong about this!

You are a Minor Child, according to the Legal Laws in the USA.

It is illegal for someone under the age of 18 to go into these sites and view the content. Your parents could be in serious troubles.
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Old Jun 21, 2013, 10:26 PM
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That's the thing, about being on a psyche board. In therapy, it's taught that feelings aren't about being right or wrong.

It's hard, starting high school, as the new person, I know, I was moved around a few times in my lifetime. I went from 7th grade to 8th grade in different states. Then in 10th grade I transferred to a new city, altogether.

It's hard not having all those social bonds that others form through the years of growing up together. Even the parents involved aren't as familiar with one another. My 4th grader, soon to be 5th grader, often talks about others, in terms of what grade they started his school.

These others kids in your school, could very well have been out playing sports together since they were kids. 5/6 year old kids.

Society is difficult too, because some households have two parents working and others have one. And without the bonding over the years of time spent at various events together, how is so and so's parents even supposed to realize that maybe they could offer to have the new kid over to their home for dinner.

And if you aren't reaching out to say, hey, let's hang out together, how would your IRL friends know that you may want to get out of the home?

Do you use XBOX LIVE, at all?! It's been really fun to listen to my son, talk to his classmates!!!
nope, I don't have any video games. I don't consider myself to be that spoiled.
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Old Jun 21, 2013, 10:27 PM
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I can come up with one thing that is wrong about this!

You are a Minor Child, according to the Legal Laws in the USA.

It is illegal for someone under the age of 18 to go into these sites and view the content. Your parents could be in serious troubles.
lots of teenagers have watched porn. I have asked them how i can quit porn but they seem to be just as confused as I am. They're kind of like, "oh, if it satisfies you, do it."
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Old Jun 21, 2013, 10:43 PM
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I am not trying to impose my morality on them. It's just that i prefer someone tell me that I've been doing things wrong so that I can seek help now. I mean, really, i would rather socialize.
Well, we are telling you to get help and you haven't asked the basic question of "How do I get help and how do I change?"

You just repeat the that you have a problem with porn and a need for socializing.
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Old Jun 21, 2013, 10:47 PM
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Well, we are telling you to get help and you haven't asked the basic question of "How do I get help and how do I change?"

You just repeat the that you have a problem with porn and a need for socializing.
well is seeing a therapist enough? How can I be more social with my friends if they don't invite me out?
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Old Jun 21, 2013, 10:50 PM
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well is seeing a therapist enough? How can I be more social with my friends if they don't invite me out?
A therapist will come up with a plan for you.

You have to stop believing that people will do things for you and come to you all the time. That is highly unrealistic. YOU have to reach out to others. YOU have to invite your friends to go out and do things or YOU will be lonely. You cannot expect others to reach out to you.
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Old Jun 21, 2013, 10:52 PM
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A therapist will come up with a plan for you.

You have to stop believing that people will do things for you and come to you all the time. That is highly unrealistic. YOU have to reach out to others. YOU have to invite your friends to go out and do things or YOU will be lonely. You cannot expect others to reach out to you.
okay, but what if i invite them and they're constantly busy?
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Old Jun 21, 2013, 11:13 PM
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Plan a day ahead of time, wait until they are free, or find other friends to hang out with.
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Old Jun 21, 2013, 11:17 PM
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Plan a day ahead of time, wait until they are free, or find other friends to hang out with.
Great suggestions. Thanks, drskipper. you really can be a doctor, haha.
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And if you aren't reaching out to say, hey, let's hang out together, how would your IRL friends know that you may want to get out of the home?

Do you use XBOX LIVE, at all?! It's been really fun to listen to my son, talk to his classmates!!!

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nope, I don't have any video games. I don't consider myself to be that spoiled.
OK, so I think I am beginning to understand why you have problems with socialization.

Let us look at what happened / transpired on the thread.

healingme4me tried to help you. You asked for help and she tried to help you. She suggested video games. She also mentioned her son and his classmates, which made me assume that her son and his classmates enjoy video games.

So... what did you do in response healingme4me's posts?

Did you acknowledge her intention to help you? NO.

Did you thank her? NO.

Did you simply, neutrally state that you do not have video games? NO.

You made a strong negative judgment of people who play video games (which implied a judgment of healingme4me's son and his classmates). healingme4me spent her time posting, trying to help you, and in response received what you wrote - that her son and his classmates are, in your opinion, much more spoiled than you are.

So if this is how you interact IRL, no wonder your friends are too busy to hang out with you. And THAT, unlike your porn use, is hugely important for proper socialization.

Did healingme4me ask for your opinion on how spoiled people who play video games are? If I tell you that it is not idiomatic per SWE (Standard Written English) to say "I don't consider myself to be that spoiled." - you should say, instead, "I don't consider myself that spoiled." - in the context of this thread which is NOT about how well you use SWE, would you welcome my comment?
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Old Jun 22, 2013, 01:01 AM
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OK, so I think I am beginning to understand why you have problems with socialization.

Let us look at what happened / transpired on the thread.

healingme4me tried to help you. You asked for help and she tried to help you. She suggested video games. She also mentioned her son and his classmates, which made me assume that her son and his classmates enjoy video games.

So... what did you do in response healingme4me's posts?

Did you acknowledge her intention to help you? NO.

Did you thank her? NO.

Did you simply, neutrally state that you do not have video games? NO.

You made a strong negative judgment of people who play video games (which implied a judgment of healingme4me's son and his classmates). healingme4me spent her time posting, trying to help you, and in response received what you wrote - that her son and his classmates are, in your opinion, much more spoiled than you are.

So if this is how you interact IRL, no wonder your friends are too busy to hang out with you. And THAT, unlike your porn use, is hugely important for proper socialization.

Did healingme4me ask for your opinion on how spoiled people who play video games are? If I tell you that it is not idiomatic per SWE (Standard Written English) to say "I don't consider myself to be that spoiled." - you should say, instead, "I don't consider myself that spoiled." - in the context of this thread which is NOT about how well you use SWE, would you welcome my comment?
I did not imply that her son was spoiled. I'm just saying that if i were spoiled, I would have tons of video games. I just don't consider myself spoiled nor did i imply that her son was spoiled.
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Old Jun 22, 2013, 01:19 AM
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I did not imply that her son was spoiled. I'm just saying that if i were spoiled, I would have tons of video games. I just don't consider myself spoiled nor did i imply that her son was spoiled.
I see that you did not mean to imply that her son was spoiled.

Why did you feel the need to say that you did not consider yourself spoiled?

There was the option of saying, neutrally and factually, that you do not have video games. Left at that.

But you said the part about not being spoiled. Why?
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I see that you did not mean to imply that her son was spoiled.

Why did you feel the need to say that you did not consider yourself spoiled?

There was the option of saying, neutrally and factually, that you do not have video games. Left at that.

But you said the part about not being spoiled. Why?
being honestly kids who have video games and nintendos are pretty much spoiled. my friend is obsessed with his. I was at the library the other day and he was all about his pokemon and stuff like that. He kept talking about it and when he asked me if i knew what this character was, i was like no and he was like you do not have a life and i'm like sure, i don't. If I did, i would not be watching porn and masturbating. I omitted the last sentence.
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Old Jun 22, 2013, 08:26 AM
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nope, I don't have any video games. I don't consider myself to be that spoiled.
I saw, that it wasn't your intention to imply my child is 'spoiled'. Although, there's being spoiled with love and being spoiled rotten. Spoiled, just happens to be one of those words that can touch nerves because it has a few different meanings.

I was suggesting video games, as a means to socialize with other people your own age.

My son and his friends connect on this system, live, and have little party chats.

I know for a fact, the high school kids in my town, do the same thing. As do the middle school kids. ((I used to work at the high school for three years, before I got the promotion where I work.))

fyi, it was his BDAY present. He could either get that system, or have a bday party. He chose the gaming system, that he'd asked for. He'd asked for 2-3 years before receiving it. After I saw, he was able to handle confrontation, on-line through another gaming site.

My kids are little gamers, and I feel, considering some in my family are engineers, that this is a great skill to have. He's also, learned how to keyboard, and frankly, he has taught some of his teacher and classmates how to use a computer.

Gaming is a great outlet for boys(and girls), in my opinion. Maybe, he'll grow up and become a programmer??
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Old Jun 22, 2013, 08:29 AM
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being honestly kids who have video games and nintendos are pretty much spoiled. my friend is obsessed with his. I was at the library the other day and he was all about his pokemon and stuff like that. He kept talking about it and when he asked me if i knew what this character was, i was like no and he was like you do not have a life and i'm like sure, i don't. If I did, i would not be watching porn and masturbating. I omitted the last sentence.
Spoiled, then, my kids are. Gamers and Athletes. Costs money to play. Even on my single mom budget.

Spoiled, YES!!! Third in the state for Wrestling, and Top 16 New England!!

And he's a little hack in the making. Oh, he's also an A student!! One of the brightest in his class.

And my other two have Math Skills that are remarkable, as well.....

BTW, it's Black Ops and Tour of Duty and all those other games. Skylanders, is the new wave of what used to be the Pokémon sect...
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Spoiled, then, my kids are. Gamers and Athletes. Costs money to play. Even on my single mom budget.

Spoiled, YES!!! Third in the state for Wrestling, and Top 16 New England!!

And he's a little hack in the making. Oh, he's also an A student!! One of the brightest in his class.

And my other two have Math Skills that are remarkable, as well.....

BTW, it's Black Ops and Tour of Duty and all those other games. Skylanders, is the new wave of what used to be the Pokémon sect...
why are you offended?
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By defnition, "A spoiled child or spoiled brat (spelt "spoilt" in British English) is a child that exhibits behavioral problems from overindulgence by his or her parents. Spoiled children may be described as "overindulged", "grandiose", "narcissistic" or "egocentric-regressed". The syndrome is characterized by "excessive, self-centered, and immature behavior". It includes lack of consideration for other people, recurrent temper tantrums, an inability to handle the delay of gratification, demands for having one's own way, obstructiveness, and manipulation.[5]"

Basically, you just called anyone who plays videogames spoiled brats who get whatever they want when they want and throw temper tantrums when they don't get what they want, who are self-centered and think they are better than everyone else. So yes, that would be offensive as videogames are considered a staple to a young boy's life.

And as I've said before, you can live a fulfilling, meaningful life AND watch pornography. Watching pornography doesn't automatically make you a failure or a loser. As most people on the past four threads you've been posting in said, pornography is normal behavior to watch and the majority of people have watched pornography at least once, with teenage boys being the highest watchers.
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By defnition, "A spoiled child or spoiled brat (spelt "spoilt" in British English) is a child that exhibits behavioral problems from overindulgence by his or her parents. Spoiled children may be described as "overindulged", "grandiose", "narcissistic" or "egocentric-regressed". The syndrome is characterized by "excessive, self-centered, and immature behavior". It includes lack of consideration for other people, recurrent temper tantrums, an inability to handle the delay of gratification, demands for having one's own way, obstructiveness, and manipulation.[5]"

Basically, you just called anyone who plays videogames spoiled brats who get whatever they want when they want and throw temper tantrums when they don't get what they want, who are self-centered and think they are better than everyone else. So yes, that would be offensive as videogames are considered a staple to a young boy's life.

And as I've said before, you can live a fulfilling, meaningful life AND watch pornography. Watching pornography doesn't automatically make you a failure or a loser. As most people on the past four threads you've been posting in said, pornography is normal behavior to watch and the majority of people have watched pornography at least once, with teenage boys being the highest watchers.
in that case, spoiled is not the right words. i don't know how to describe someone who gets what they want, like video games. Pampered isn't the right word either.
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By defnition, "A spoiled child or spoiled brat (spelt "spoilt" in British English) is a child that exhibits behavioral problems from overindulgence by his or her parents. Spoiled children may be described as "overindulged", "grandiose", "narcissistic" or "egocentric-regressed". The syndrome is characterized by "excessive, self-centered, and immature behavior". It includes lack of consideration for other people, recurrent temper tantrums, an inability to handle the delay of gratification, demands for having one's own way, obstructiveness, and manipulation.[5]"

Basically, you just called anyone who plays videogames spoiled brats who get whatever they want when they want and throw temper tantrums when they don't get what they want, who are self-centered and think they are better than everyone else. So yes, that would be offensive as videogames are considered a staple to a young boy's life.

And as I've said before, you can live a fulfilling, meaningful life AND watch pornography. Watching pornography doesn't automatically make you a failure or a loser. As most people on the past four threads you've been posting in said, pornography is normal behavior to watch and the majority of people have watched pornography at least once, with teenage boys being the highest watchers.
why would i want to be watching porn when i'm an adult? I'd rather spend time with others.
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My parents always tell me that they do whatever they can to buy my brother and I nice things, videogames being one of them. I don't think it has anything to do with getting what we want, it's because we will use and enjoy what we get and videogames are easy to please. It's hard to go wrong with videogames because my brother will talk about how cool a new game is and then my parents know what to get him for Christmas.
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why would i want to be watching porn when i'm an adult? I'd rather spend time with others.
1. Because you're not in a relationship.
2. Because you are in a relationship and your girlfriend wants to watch it with you.
3. Because you can buy porn and play the porn while you're having sex.
4. It's a time killer.
5. It gets you off.
6. It's free.
7. Your friends are busy and you have time for yourself.
8. You need something new to fantasize about.
9. You're bored.
10. Porn gives you ideas to try in bed. (at least for me, I've definitely discovered some new positions I'd like to try someday.)
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My parents always tell me that they do whatever they can to buy my brother and I nice things, videogames being one of them. I don't think it has anything to do with getting what we want, it's because we will use and enjoy what we get and videogames are easy to please. It's hard to go wrong with videogames because my brother will talk about how cool a new game is and then my parents know what to get him for Christmas.
Your brother's very lucky to get what he wants. video games is not something that I want because I always lose.
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Old Jun 22, 2013, 11:58 AM
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Your brother's very lucky to get what he wants. video games is not something that I want because I always lose.
I don't play videogames but my brother is moving on from videogames and is getting more involved in work and career.
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I don't play videogames but my brother is moving on from videogames and is getting more involved in work and career.
just a thing of the past, eh? well i hope that porn will just be like video games for me.
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