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Sorry but not posting this in the men forum as it says 'men only' which I don't agree with - women feel free to offer your perspective too even if the question itself is to guys.
When I was married I had big problems with sharing a bed because I tend to startle easily when touched, and this not only made it hard to sleep but occasionally I would instinctively push my partner away, especially if I was half asleep when it happened. Over time I also found myself getting more closed down sexually and didn't want to be touched or have sex, but sometimes if I was asleep I would find myself waking and having sex without having initiated, apparently because I responded physically to my wife's touch while asleep enough to get aroused (possibly I was having an erotic dream too?) and I guess she 'climbed on' thinking I was present when I wasn't - but then when I woke up and sort of found myself there my instinct was to want to push her off because I didn't really want it and it was quite scary actually but I couldn't do that without hurting her so just went along with it but since I wasn't into it really I would fake coming to bring things to an end on my part without making her feel bad, or sometimes then focus on helping her come too if that was still needed. I always thought that this was pretty rare for guys but I have read recently that it's more common than was thought and that it's a bit of a myth that guys can't fake orgasms because of the link between orgasm and ejaculation but actually that is not the case. btw this is one reason why I don't like to sleep regularly with women as I get afraid of sharing a bed and these things happening again (even though paradoxically I do miss the intimacy of sex on an emotional level but I need it to be very carefully paced and a lot of people don't know how to do that). |
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This is really interesting. I’ll have to ask my husband if he’s ever faked an orgasm. I’ve never done it with him though. If I’m not getting “there” I just say so. I guess I feel like there’s no point in lying 🤷🏻*♀️ sometimes ya just can’t go for whatever reason. It’s nobody’s fault. Just the way human bodies sometimes work.
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I asked my husband and he said he didn't know men could fake it. Shrug. I know I have faked it before I was married. Trying to make guys feel better about themselves.
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Pretty much for the same reason - tryin’ to make girls feel better about themselves. Okay. First time at 19 or 20 and I meet this French girl in a pub. I was with a group and she was tragically alone and punk and pretty. When the closing bell rang we went back to my flat to, ostensibly, smoke some weed and these were the years way, way before HIV/AIDS but when every woman was on the Pill and we (meaning ‘we men’) didn’t keep condoms on hand but expected girls to, like I said, be on the Pill. I cannot recall this girl’s name to save the Pope’s life (no, I am not harboring the Pope) but she fell into one of my four ‘types’ and I was not an underarm hair novice but, my god, the odor of decaying corpses hit me and I realized that the French are not as concerned about hygiene as we American ex-pats. I soldiered on, though, and faked an orgasm. Some men spend copiously and some do not and I think that she bought my fake orgasm. When I was 39 I met a woman, Karen, during my first trip to a lavish - mint on the pillow lavish - private mental health facility. Karen was also 39. You may or may not realize how the most attractive and interesting two people in a crowd dance toward one another? Even if you are both coupled, you’re drawn to the other. It’s like some effed-up magic. In retrospect I can say that hooking up in a mental health facility isn’t, um, smart. My real girlfriend (who I found on Facebook! Back when I looked at Facebook!) was 19-20 at that time and the oldest person that I had slept with would have been my ex-wife, at 32. I had no sexual experiences with women of my own age. But Karen was really attractive - for 39 - and looked to be as fit as one can look in lounging clothes. So, it’s our third night together and she comes to my room (long story) and we start making out, etc., and I’m a ‘lights on’ person and I see, for the first time, the sagging and patterned and leathered breasts of an old woman. Jeez. Even the skin on her inner thighs sagged. Clothed, she looked the part of Someone’s Nordic Mistress. She had some really nice junk (what are women calling their junk these days?) and I was able to serve my country but I could not then or forevermore come for Karen. Maybe faked it one dozen times? Yes. I have faked an orgasm 13 times (close enough). In 10 trysts, not 13 during one sitting.
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For me it was more just wanting to get it over with in a way that didn't hurt my wife's feelings.
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I must have missed that in your original message. No, no, no. In the time between meeting my wife and marriage we engaged in intercourse hundreds of times. Hundreds and hundreds. She would have known - absolutely and with forensic surety - had I attempted to fake an orgasm with her. Um, I don’t think that I could have faked an orgasm with any, uh, thrice-laid women. The whole copious load thing and all. As males I believe that we assume that we could spot a woman’s fake orgasm. Even after that Meg Ryan diner scene in whatever film. I’m certain that I have been victimized by women’s faked orgasms. The odds favor it. I would still like to know the current term for women’s junk. My partner and I use the same terms that we used in high school. We are so very ‘70’s.
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It rarely happened to me that I wasn't able to come. And when it happened, well, so what. How *can* you even fake it when there is no sperm around?
I know women aren't happy about it, but hey, if you come 99 times out of 100, then she shouldn't have any doubts of her attractiveness. |
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This is a myth, it’s not at all difficult to fake if you are using condoms for example (who checks inside them?). Plus most men produce some ejaculate as they go along, and so do women of course, so there is usually something fluid there. Also ejaculation and orgasm in men are not quite as connected as people think, you can have one without the other.
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And when I peel off the condom and the tip of my penis is bone dry ... let's say, if she is paying attention she would most likely notice. But anyway, if I never or only rarely come, then I (or we) have a problem that needs to be discussed or handled. If it only happens once in a while, the'll have to accept it. Just like people aren't just always in the mood. |
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Never faked an orgasm. Never even considered it. I'm so used to the messiness of an ejaculation that I couldn't even try to fake an orgasm off with a straight face.
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As for women's junk, I could advise you on that, but I think PC would star out my term. Lol. ![]() |
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I know there is a difference between an orgasm & ejaculating with men. At least in my sexual experience.
I had a partner that experienced whole body orgasms which he trained himself to have using tantric energy. He would not ejaculate at all during sex. He explained to me one time that he could easily ejaculate, but would lose energy from this & experiencing body orgasms was far more pleasurable. These orgasms would go on for several minutes & roll thru his entire body & he could work them thru his body again & again experiencing these orgasms....for awhile! Almost made me jealous. I was amazed by this information & started to read more about tantric sex & chakra energy. I was raised to understand a sexual encounter as “petting, penetration & orgasm.” But my philosophies have changed a great deal now. So as a female I’ve never experienced a male “faking” it, I’m guessing you mean ejaculating. I’ve often questioned whether women can actually “feel” an ejaculation from a man. I can not. But I’ve read that some women can. Idk.
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The term “leathery & saggy” tells me you are/were young perhaps (???)& do not respect what women’s bodies go thru as a female warrior. Our naked bodies tell another a great deal.
Maybe this person had a big drop in weight which can cause skin to sag. Or maybe this person birthed children into this world. I guess men can close their eyes & fantasize about air brushed pics they see while they have sex. If men do it, well guess what women do too. As for women’s junk....basic anatomy words are best. IMHO, To me it shows a sign of intelligence, respect for another & research was done. Now pet names or code words....lol yeah I get that.
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Men my age look at Robin Wright and wonder why all women don’t look the same. We still use the pink hat word for non-specific ‘down there.’ (I’m supposed to be watching a movie but it is sooooo boring!)
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Do you know... I have never ‘imagined’ having sex with anyone except the people with whom I am having sex. I thought for ages that that was a sort of male myth... but I found (rather rudely) that men and, yes, women can both be prone to that peculiar artifice. I find it odd; because it has never occurred to me to do the same... just something that I don’t ‘get.’ Ya know... I’m an eye-contact during sex person. Lovers have commented on that, some negatively. Maybe that is another reason that I can’t conjure others whilst loving Jane, Nancy, Stephanie, Laura, Lisa, Jodi, sweet Martha. As I wrote, my partner and I still use the pink hat term for quarters below deck... and I feel like a real dyno-gyno sometimes with my knowledge of the female anatomy but I don’t always fall back upon the Latin when in the throes of passion! I love my partner’s 60-year-old body. Or am I more addicted to her 60-year-old wisdom? Both. I love the girl! I’m missing her, now. She keeps my psychosis at bay. Without her here... things change quickly. Never thought of faking an org with her, no, no, no!
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There is no way on God's green earth that I would NOT know if a man I was with faked an orgasm.
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Yes, I am a woman and I have faked an orgasm.
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Lol. Technically true, but those are not the terms I would use. Lmao.
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My husband faked it once and it was obvious.
How could it not be obvious when no condom is used?Haven't we all been through what happens once we stand up?Haven't we all made that walk to the bathroom with our legs tightly squeezed together,trying to hold it in until we can clean ourselves? |
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Far too many men - and many women - think that reproduction is only possible when the male ejaculates directly into the ovaries. Nonsense, of course. Even knowing of the vulva and vagina, I have never cried out those terms before, during or after sex. Even when playing out a scene, sex has an intimacy for each participant and I have never had a woman ask me to push my penis beyond her vulva and into her vagina. Those are not the words used during an intimate, passionate encounter. Not in my experience. What do I know? I talk to the dead more often than not. I’m no man on a mission but rather a ghost in a world filled with other shades. So, I am still curious to know if there is a ‘new’ word or term for women’s ‘junk’? So many names used in passion - or general conversation - for male genitalia, you know? Surely more than two for women?
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“Dear, girl; please allow me to push my penis past your vulva and into your vagina? And I shall, when possible, excite your clitoris so that we both may experience an orgasm.” Um. No. LMAO here, too.
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However... the amount of ejaculate might be copious during a man’s first orgasm of the day (or night) and might dwindle during his third or fourth orgasm. A fifth orgasm, I think, could be ‘faked,’ even with a frequent partner, because the amount of ejaculate might be insignificant. Just my observations.
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No, but I have sometimes had an orgasm without either of us realising it.
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