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Old Aug 19, 2012, 08:41 PM
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So my latest dreams... One was that I was in hell. And I was with mom and my brothers. Everyone was telling us if we wanted to get through hell that we should find a "person" who was worth knowing so we could avoid pain through their status. I decided we would be our own "persons". So we're on a train riding through with some type of fire flying from the sky destroying the path behind us. Then I notice a huge 1/2 burnt house and ask "What's that" and someone says "It's the house of fire" and instantly we were sent there. I regretted it. So we're in the house looking around and we hear the rules. That we can't break any of the windows and something about squares not being allowed, only circles. So we realize (although the house is flooded with water) that eventually the house will burn so we run around trying to find a way out without breaking the rules. Then we see a woman with her kids carrying a little new born baby. I call to them trying to get them to escape, to run but they don't hear me. They keep going. Then I notice more and more that there are people everywhere in the house and that the house isn't a house but in fact a hotel about to be on fire burning everyone in. I tried to escape, tried to get everyone out but no luck.

Then I had another dream during my nap, I don't remember the other dream but very similar about a house that was burnt, but it was flooded. Then it caught on fire.

So then I had another dream last night that I was being thrown into pits of fire. I don't remember the details any more.

I've read in the last few days a book about heaven and hell. Perhaps this is the reason for these dreams, likely it is, or likely the book has sparked some internal conflict or something but... It's confusing being fire AND water. And it's confusing that all of my dreams seem to be about this now, and like last night I hadn't read from the book all day yet still had the dream of being thrown into a pit of fire. But it wasn't just one pit, by something unseen I was being lifted, thrown into a pit of fire, then lifted again thrown into another then being lifted again and it continued for who knows how long. No one was lifting me up, I was just being lifted.

I miss the dreams of playing kid games that I was having
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Old Aug 21, 2012, 11:40 AM
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This is a fairly heavy post. Forgive me if it takes some time to get through it all

First, Hell is never so much a spiritual thing in dreams (unless it's a prophetic dream, but those don't count as they're not about the dreamer...ever). Instead, Hell is more looking at the consequences of whatever choices you've made in life. The path behind you as you advance toward Hell is being destroyed. This could mean that you feel there is no way of turning back, or no way of avoiding the consequences. "Find a person worth knowing". Hmm.. This could be a subconscious cry for a support network, and a response of acknowledging that your family is your support. How is your irl relationship with your family? Are you estranged with anyone featured in the dream? Also, since you are everyone in the dream - how are you similar to your mom and brother? It might be that you feel traits shared between the three of you have caused the consequences you're having to face.

On to the House of Fire, the specific consequence for some choice or action... Regret of that house seems to back up the consequence metaphor. I need to ask before I go any further - what do you mean "the house was flooded"? Are we talking to the ceiling, chest level, a few inches? The story is in the details I have a feeling that once again, everyone in this house is some part of your psyche. In fact, it may be that the house is you (technically buildings can represent the physical aspect of your body). So whatever the consequence, it's going to be damaging to yourself and you sense that it could be heavily damaging to your psyche. You shouted to the mother but she didn't hear you. First, nobody heard you probably because they are all part of you. Second, I think the mother drew your attention because of the children, which means that you feel that there are people depending on you to help care for them. They aren't necessarily children, just in need of nurturing. Oh, and let's not forget the rules. No breaking windows - if the house/hotel is your physical body, then breaking windows could be conceived as self mutilation and your subconscious is seeing that no amount of self destruction can help avoid the coming damage.

Being flung from one pit to another could simply be the worry that your choices will continue to lead you to consequences like that in the Hell metaphor. "No matter what I do, I just keep going from one bad event to another."

What things in your life do you see as having been unavoidable? How much of this looks to have been a pattern that continues over time? Who or what are you blaming for it? How could you have changed things to better the situation? How can you change yourself to avoid these consequences in the future?
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Old Aug 21, 2012, 04:13 PM
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First thank you so much for your response, I love reading your responses and really hope you start the dream chat soon!!! Sorry for this long response, I already know it will be long, I'm a talker and a typer

Find a person worth knowing". Hmm.. This could be a subconscious cry for a support network, and a response of acknowledging that your family is your support. How is your irl relationship with your family? Are you estranged with anyone featured in the dream? Also, since you are everyone in the dream - how are you similar to your mom and brother? It might be that you feel traits shared between the three of you have caused the consequences you're having to face.

As far as my family situation, I love them dearly. I try my hardest to get along and to try and make our personalities alike but we are all polar opposites. Mom is a heavy drinker, all for getting any kind of a buzz from alcohol over the counter meds, perscription meds (and I have a fear of medication) and she's pretty graphic with swearing and open about sexual acts, I'm very reserved. I do drink but like once a month. I never swear (it makes me feel like someone I'm not) and I'm terrified of meds. Not to mention anything sexual related I'm very closed off about that general topic. Mom says anything and everything, I say nothing at all. Our common factor though is our childhood to an extent and that we both really care about people especially children.. My middle brother and I are very different but not too bad. He likes to drink but he's a single dad now so he's straightened up a lot. He used to be very violent toward me but has years ago apologized and we get along well. He's a really caring person, always trying to do what he can for his family even if it means sacrificing himself. But we differ in regards to my dad, he thinks my dad can change, I know my dad can't change and wont. My oldest brother, he's very quiet and dark. Depressed and is obsessed with women. He sleeps with his phone by his head in case a girl calls. He's nice but we don't have the closest relationship, probably the least stable as I haven't yet gotten past his abuse toward me. So we don't really none of us have anything in common eccept that we care about others. I consider myself the white sheep of my family, they're all (or have been at a time) serious about drugs drinking partying and just being irresponsible but I've always been the more responsible one trying to make things better instead of feeding into the chaos.But I've not always been this was, as a teen I did have a drinking problem, not drugs but I drank all the time and yeah it caused even more problems. Perhaps this is where I think the traits caused problems I'm trying to face now? I'm trying to face a lot though so... Eck...

what do you mean "the house was flooded"? Are we talking to the ceiling, chest level, a few inches

With the flooding it was ankle deep in some spots knee deep in other rooms, but never ceiling deep, just water everywhere inside. But at the same time there were burn marks all over the house and a fire was about to break out again. This type of dream has happened through phases on and off throughout the last 10-15 years.

Second, I think the mother drew your attention because of the children, which means that you feel that there are people depending on you to help care for them. They aren't necessarily children, just in need of nurturing

For this one, I do have a 4 year old daughter. I have custody of her and lately it's really been eating away at me. I've been in a very difficult place lately trying to get past my past and I can see it's been effecting my relationship with my daughter. I still tell her I love her numerous times throughout the day and tickle her and all but when she says "Let's play" or "Can we go to the pool" etc I just can't do it, I don't have that much energy lately, only bouts of energy that last about 5 minutes a couple times a day then I just can't manage to do much. And I can tell she's been picking up on my anxiety. And example, just yesterday my fiance bought her some tattoes from the store of princesses. She used to love tattooes, and she had him put a few on her. Well an hour or so later she comes in the bathroom and asks me to take them off, when I explain she has to take a bath and it will take a few days she starts to cry saying "But I can't handle it!!!" I've tried my hardest in the last 3 months not to let her see my anxiety but for the week that I had a complete meltdown in May, I just was in a constant extreme anxiety attack, so much I was going to the emergency room every other day. I didn't realize that she was paying that much attention, and I don't know how to get her through it, I can't even get myself through the anxiety. So I do feel like I'm responsible and that my issues have caused her issues and she's suffering consequenses to my actions. I have been so upset about this.

Oh, and let's not forget the rules. No breaking windows - if the house/hotel is your physical body, then breaking windows could be conceived as self mutilation and your subconscious is seeing that no amount of self destruction can help avoid the coming damage.

I really like your interpretations. Because honestly, I used to self mutilate every day for years, but after I was hospitalized I stopped, it was almost 10 years ago since the last time I did. And I haven't had the urge to but twice in the last 10 years. Once was when I was on some meds that put me in a terrible place, the other time was last week... When I was really upset about everything going on. So it seems you may be on point about that one as well. I didn't end up doing anything, I've gone so long and come so far, but I thought about it for a while until I could distract myself.

Being flung from one pit to another could simply be the worry that your choices will continue to lead you to consequences like that in the Hell metaphor. "No matter what I do, I just keep going from one bad event to another."

Again right on, in the last few months I've been thinking just that. I was doing better, considerably better when I think back on how I was August through January, I was so much better. Then in May it only took one small thing and I got thrown back down. And it wasn't anything I could control. But I was feeling so much better and something happens and I have a stress seizure. It made me feel like no matter how much better I get or how much I try I wont be able to ever get out of getting thrown back down. I've lately been trying not to think that way and take into consideration my t's advice on "You can't stop bad things from happening, they will happen no matter what. But you can control how you react and how you let it control you when they do happen" but... I've just been so tired of so much going wrong.

What things in your life do you see as having been unavoidable? How much of this looks to have been a pattern that continues over time? Who or what are you blaming for it? How could you have changed things to better the situation? How can you change yourself to avoid these consequences in the future?

In my life there were a million things done that were bad. My childhood would have made a great horror movie. I try not to blame anyone though but the people who inflicted the abuse themselves, but I have trouble because I blame myself, but I've been lately putting the blame on them, where it belongs. But in the past few months I've been addressing everything that's wrong, all of the irrational thinking, and I'm getting there, slowly but I'm getting there. I just don't know if I'll be better any time in the next few years

Sorry for such a long post, I really appreciate your responses though, even though I know the struggles I'm going through and all, my subconscious knows better than me so to have the dreams interpreted this way helps me to understand which are the deep issues and which are the more miniscule issues. Sorry to type your ear off!
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Old Aug 21, 2012, 09:30 PM
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So the family history actually brings a little more light to the bus scene. It appears to me like perhaps you think the mistakes your family is making is bringing the whole family, yourself (and as we see with the mother later, your daughter as well) into the hell of consequences. Blood is blood, so perhaps there's a fear that you hold these same traits that are driving everyone into the hell pits? Also, finding someone worth knowing might be a desire to get to know your family more beyond them being a flock of black sheep.

Being so closed off about vulgarity and sexuality can also be a forced repression of tendencies that might be shared between you and your mom. Just a thought

Having a 4 yr old of my own, you might try being straight wit hher about how she feels about things. When she says "But I can't handle it" ask why. From there you might find an oppertunity to bond with your daughter and calm her own anxieties abotu you. Just a little help parent to parent That definately relates the mom to the burning hosue though, considering you're basically trapped by your anxiety and in turn she is getting the same message. I get the feeling the house has to do with your anxiety. Not sure what it means yet...we'll see.

The water could be a symbol for you being drudged down (like how it's hard to wade through water), or it could be a building up of emotions (especially if it gets deeper as it gets closer to the house burning down).

We all get weary. Bad things will continue to happen and nobody in their right mind would think it absurd for you to feel tired of all these pits of despair and stress. The key is just to roll with the punches, and maybe remind ourself that bad times are what helps us appreciate how good the good times are. And if all else, you can always come here and talk about your problems ^_^

It occurs to me, if you've been thinking about your past a lot lately it may be triggering stress anxiety.

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Neurological science has proven that when we remember things, our brain treats the memories as if the events are actively occuring at that moment. So the phrase "don't live in the past" has a literal grounding - we relive our memories as if they're in the here and now.

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