[BubonicPlague]

Just to let you people: I have never had sexual intercourse with anyone ever. I'm not lying.

I had two dreams with sexual encounters.

In the first one, I was in a dark room with my two aunts. There were black curtains surrounding us, and we were sitting at a table with black cloth. One of my aunts had a deck of cards in her hand, and they were considered "mystical". She drew one and she started to talk about Azrael. I told them that was the angel of death. They left the room, and I got on the table and tried to cover myself with a black shroud. Then and old man comes in and he was a Catholic priest (I don't mean to offend anyone on here. he was dressed in robes and all). I kept moving away from him as he tried to sweet talk me and then I ended up running down a hall and I was thinking of calling archangels Michael or Gabriel for help, but I knew they wouldn't listen to me. I ran into this fancy room and a girl was in it. This time there were two men that coming after me. I told the girl that there were two men coming after us, and I tried locking the door, but the lock was broken. I told her that we had to jump out the window. So we both jumped from the second story. We were in a small area outside. The two men were now downstairs and they were in the room that was now in front of us. We turned around and there were people in that room, so went in and started calling for help. I tried yelling, but I was very quiet and no one could hear me. The two men were still following us, but at a safe distance. A crowd of people gathered around the two men and led them outside. The people said to the men how shameful it was to harass us. Then I started to beat the man who was trying to get to me.

The next dream, I was in some sort of shelter for people my age. You couldn't get out of it. You had to stay and live with them. I got into an argument with an older man there who had white hair and was taller than me. He then pinned me down to the ground and turned me over and he pulled down my pants and I could feel him enter me. I didn't do anything, I just let him do it to me. Then, I don't know why but I pulled up my shirt for him and he started fondling me. People were gathered around watching.

[Travelinglady]

Do you have any thoughts about what these dreams might mean BubonicPlague?

[BubonicPlague]

Originally Posted by Travelinglady

Do you have any thoughts about what these dreams might mean BubonicPlague?

I don't know that much about my first dream, other than it's very bizarre that my aunts would be practice magic when both of them are Mormon (the only thing considered magic to them would be Harry Potter) and I doubt they would know anything about Azrael.

And I will tell you this now, I crave sex all the time, in fact, I daydream about it 24/7. I could be hypersexual, but I don't know. I have many fantasies about men, and my preference is age 10-20 years older than me. I did not intend to have an older man hit on me in my dreams. It's not like I wanted it happen. It could have been something that just slipped into my mind.

[Travelinglady]

It makes sense, then, that you would be dreaming about sex, since it's a big concern during your waking hours, too. I suspect you dream about being raped because you don't think it's right/appropriate/acceptable (?) for you to give a man permission to have sex with you. And you are attracted to older men, so it's not surprising that the men were older. Freud said our desires come out in our dreams.

Perhaps the Catholic priest represents such mixed feelings. They do, alas, have a known history of sexual abuse, too. And Mormons are opposed to sex outside of marriage, too, aren't they?

You want sex; you are appropriately curious about it; Maybe it's sort of magical, scary? But your upbringing and now your personal beliefs tell you sex is not appropriate for you. So, you were running away from the priest and the other men.

Pardon me for asking, but is sex for one (masturbation) considered wrong by you, too? I think you do need some way to take care of your healthy, normal needs.

Of course, therapy can help us. If you keep having such dreams and they upset you, then I would suggest therapy for you.

[BubonicPlague]

Originally Posted by Travelinglady

It makes sense, then, that you would be dreaming about sex, since it's a big concern during your waking hours, too. I suspect you dream about being raped because you don't think it's right/appropriate/acceptable (?) for you to give a man permission to have sex with you. And you are attracted to older men, so it's not surprising that the men were older. Freud said our desires come out in our dreams.

Perhaps the Catholic priest represents such mixed feelings. They do, alas, have a known history of sexual abuse, too. And Mormons are opposed to sex outside of marriage, too, aren't they?

You want sex; you are appropriately curious about it; Maybe it's sort of magical, scary? But your upbringing and now your personal beliefs tell you sex is not appropriate for you. So, you were running away from the priest and the other men.

Pardon me for asking, but is sex for one (masturbation) considered wrong by you, too? I think you do need some way to take care of your healthy, normal needs.

Of course, therapy can help us. If you keep having such dreams and they upset you, then I would suggest therapy for you.

Oh, I wasn't raised religiously. I was never Christened, I just live with my dad's side of the family who are all Mormon (except for him).

The weird thing is though, is that my mom never wanted me to get involved with anything sexual, and would always forbid me to speak about. She would keep that to herself, and yet she was REALLY big on that when it came to spend time with her boyfriend (so much irony and hypocrisy right there).

So I was the one who decided to secretly go onto porn sites and explore what had been hidden from me.

From then on my eyes were opened to a world of lust and desire.

I masturbate a majority of the time, but not as much as before my last nervous break down.

And you know what I was told by a demon? "Embrace the sin! BE THE SINNER!!!"

As for the priest, I was very uncomfortable him trying to touch me.

The other, I felt as if it were someone I knew, so I was okay with it.

[Travelinglady]

Hmmm. Okay. Now how old are you? (Thinking it might make some difference.) You don't have to answer if you don't want to.

Perhaps therapy could be a good thing. I am not saying you're really "off," but it might help you to deal with this sex issue in a way that's not so disturbing.

[BubonicPlague]

Originally Posted by Travelinglady

Hmmm. Okay. Now how old are you? (Thinking it might make some difference.) You don't have to answer if you don't want to.

Perhaps therapy could be a good thing. I am not saying you're really "off," but it might help you to deal with this sex issue in a way that's not so disturbing.

I'm 17, and I've been told that having these daydreams are normal, but I'm still trying to learn how to live with maladaptive daydreaming.

[Travelinglady]

Oh, I was thinking you were a lot older. Yeah, try not to worry about these dreams. And you have plenty of time for having your first sexual encounter. Just try to stay away from the porn the best you can. Okay?

Are you sure the name mentioned in your dreams was Azrael, and not maybe Asael/Azael or Azazel? If they are the latter names, you could be having trouble. You have mentioned that a demon has spoken to you already about embracing the sin. Did he once mention who he was? How did he look? If he has ram-like horns on his head it could be the fallen-angel Azazel who has spoken to you! Some people have linked him to a messenger that comes to visit people with depression and suicidal thoughts, telling them to go ahead and do it, so that he can "free them from their pain". It is not specifically stated anywhere, but it is possible that he is the one that convinces people to do sin. Suicide is also a sin (Thou shalt not kill). Some have noted the horns, and him being a very tall man, and it is even possible he is the classical image of the devil, the man with the ram's head. He is particularly persuasive, charismatic, at times even alluring and boastful (almost highly confident and bragging), and has led ancient civilizations astray by teaching how to make things out of metal and the art of making yourself up so that you look different, according to a text called the Book of Enoch, a book not in the Bible (i.e. a non-canonical text). I'm just thinking about this because you mentioned magic in your dream, and the practice of magic. Azazel/Asael has been known to have taught magic and "the secrets of the Kingdom of God" to people of the ancient past. He was punished for this, and it is thought the old Jewish tradition of Yom Kippur stems from throwing a ram over a cliff to atone for the sins of the people (the scapegoat, see Leviticus 16 in the Bible) which is reminiscent of the archangel Raphael being told to tie Azazel up and throw him down the mountain into a place of darkness (covering him with rocks), to punish him for misleading humanity in many ways. It sounds like you may need to go see a priest perhaps if these demons are tormenting you, telling you to do stuff you don't want to, and planting these thoughts in your mind to torment you until you do it. Even if the fantasies may feel good or even pleasurable, it's a form of torment to get you to give in.

The devil has many spiritual followers to watch out for, they are fallen angels. Many debate whether these are part of demons or not, as many ascribe demons to be like conditions or addictions or illnesses, where these fallen angels are actual figures who can be seen. Many consider demons to be the faceless, or eyeless, or red-eyed, black hooded shadow figures often seen by some. They are responsible for misery in your life and can manifest as real diseases. The fallen angels some believe are not demons but evil angels, led by Satan. Some have had communication with them. In some non-canonical texts, there are reports of people encountering them. Adam and Eve were repeatedly subjected to attacks by Satan, whilst being followed by a "host of others that seemed to be with him", after they were ejected from the Garden of Eden. There it was noted that he could change form as he liked and it is only my humble opinion that these could have been the fallen angels, all speaking out of the same mouth. Adam even said that they looked just like the true Angels of God that would always come to his rescue when Satan attacked. I recommend the book of Adam and Eve (a non-canonical text), it's a great read and gives account of what lengths Satan goes to, to try and kill Adam and Eve. He is also responsible for misleading Cain into killing his little brother Abel. Adam chased Satan, but Cain listened to him, he used the jealousy Cain had for Abel to persuade him to kill Abel. It's actually a great read. It's available online, along with the Book of Enoch as free pdf's.

Sorry if I got sidetracked a bit here with a long post, and sorry to those who may not believe in these spiritual beings. I'm speaking from a Biblical point of view, of course there are also many rational and scientific explanations possible and I thus leave it here as an open ended discussion. It's an alternative viewpoint.

I am particularly worried because you say you have these fantasies since the dream. It sounds like a "seed" that has been planted in your mind by the dream. It's funny you should mention the two men being scolded and feeling ashamed. The fallen angels also felt ashamed at one point, and they sent Enoch (from the book of Enoch) to make a plea for them to God, because they were too ashamed to face the music themselves after their crimes. There is also a huge sexual component always linked to these fallen angels too. Many of them married human women and had "children" with them, but they were "giants". Some believe these giants are now the demons, the spirits that lived on after the bodies had died (presumably in the great flood). The great flood was instigated to remove wickedness and debauchery from earth, sexual orgies and the like that was going on. So, it's possible all these things are linked in your dream. As I said, it can obviously be interpreted in many ways, but seeing that you come from a religious or spiritual point of view, I only provide this aspect and of course others may offer another explanation.

[BubonicPlague]

Originally Posted by StbGuy

Are you sure the name mentioned in your dreams was Azrael, and not maybe Asael/Azael or Azazel? If they are the latter names, you could be having trouble. You have mentioned that a demon has spoken to you already about embracing the sin. Did he once mention who he was? How did he look? If he has ram-like horns on his head it could be the fallen-angel Azazel who has spoken to you! Some people have linked him to a messenger that comes to visit people with depression and suicidal thoughts, telling them to go ahead and do it, so that he can "free them from their pain". It is not specifically stated anywhere, but it is possible that he is the one that convinces people to do sin. Suicide is also a sin (Thou shalt not kill). Some have noted the horns, and him being a very tall man, and it is even possible he is the classical image of the devil, the man with the ram's head. He is particularly persuasive, charismatic, at times even alluring and boastful (almost highly confident and bragging), and has led ancient civilizations astray by teaching how to make things out of metal and the art of making yourself up so that you look different, according to a text called the Book of Enoch, a book not in the Bible (i.e. a non-canonical text). I'm just thinking about this because you mentioned magic in your dream, and the practice of magic. Azazel/Asael has been known to have taught magic and "the secrets of the Kingdom of God" to people of the ancient past. He was punished for this, and it is thought the old Jewish tradition of Yom Kippur stems from throwing a ram over a cliff to atone for the sins of the people (the scapegoat, see Leviticus 16 in the Bible) which is reminiscent of the archangel Raphael being told to tie Azazel up and throw him down the mountain into a place of darkness (covering him with rocks), to punish him for misleading humanity in many ways. It sounds like you may need to go see a priest perhaps if these demons are tormenting you, telling you to do stuff you don't want to, and planting these thoughts in your mind to torment you until you do it. Even if the fantasies may feel good or even pleasurable, it's a form of torment to get you to give in.

The devil has many spiritual followers to watch out for, they are fallen angels. Many debate whether these are part of demons or not, as many ascribe demons to be like conditions or addictions or illnesses, where these fallen angels are actual figures who can be seen. Many consider demons to be the faceless, or eyeless, or red-eyed, black hooded shadow figures often seen by some. They are responsible for misery in your life and can manifest as real diseases. The fallen angels some believe are not demons but evil angels, led by Satan. Some have had communication with them. In some non-canonical texts, there are reports of people encountering them. Adam and Eve were repeatedly subjected to attacks by Satan, whilst being followed by a "host of others that seemed to be with him", after they were ejected from the Garden of Eden. There it was noted that he could change form as he liked and it is only my humble opinion that these could have been the fallen angels, all speaking out of the same mouth. Adam even said that they looked just like the true Angels of God that would always come to his rescue when Satan attacked. I recommend the book of Adam and Eve (a non-canonical text), it's a great read and gives account of what lengths Satan goes to, to try and kill Adam and Eve. He is also responsible for misleading Cain into killing his little brother Abel. Adam chased Satan, but Cain listened to him, he used the jealousy Cain had for Abel to persuade him to kill Abel. It's actually a great read. It's available online, along with the Book of Enoch as free pdf's.

Sorry if I got sidetracked a bit here with a long post, and sorry to those who may not believe in these spiritual beings. I'm speaking from a Biblical point of view, of course there are also many rational and scientific explanations possible and I thus leave it here as an open ended discussion. It's an alternative viewpoint.

I am particularly worried because you say you have these fantasies since the dream. It sounds like a "seed" that has been planted in your mind by the dream. It's funny you should mention the two men being scolded and feeling ashamed. The fallen angels also felt ashamed at one point, and they sent Enoch (from the book of Enoch) to make a plea for them to God, because they were too ashamed to face the music themselves after their crimes. There is also a huge sexual component always linked to these fallen angels too. Many of them married human women and had "children" with them, but they were "giants". Some believe these giants are now the demons, the spirits that lived on after the bodies had died (presumably in the great flood). The great flood was instigated to remove wickedness and debauchery from earth, sexual orgies and the like that was going on. So, it's possible all these things are linked in your dream. As I said, it can obviously be interpreted in many ways, but seeing that you come from a religious or spiritual point of view, I only provide this aspect and of course others may offer another explanation.

No, it was not Azazel. I heard it with my ears, it was Azrael.

I don't want you to be slapped on the wrist here for religious debate, so could we please talk about this in a private message?

Originally Posted by BubonicPlague

No, it was not Azazel. I heard it with my ears, it was Azrael.

I don't want you to be slapped on the wrist here for religious debate, so could we please talk about this in a private message?

Sure, anytime . Thing is though, he might very well be behind it, but is hiding himself, these things happen. It is not uncommon for evil entities to pose as good. An Angel of God would not convince you to have sex by taunting you with fantasies.