Hi everyone, I'm new to this thread, but not the boards. I've had insomnia for years. So I would often take sleeping pills or melatonin. Well, nothing is working anymore! I have barely been able to sleep for two nights this week! Luckily I don't work, so I can sleep late when I need to!

I'm often tired during the day until late afternoon. It's crazy! I have energy at night usually. Do sleeping aids stop working after awhile? How can I get some deep quality sleep? I don't drink caffeine usually. This is weird!

What sleeping meds work the best? What can I do to get a good nights sleep? It doesn't help that I'm more stressed out now than usual since we might loose our house soon. Could that be part of the problem?

[LucyG]

It sounds like you have high cortisol at night which is why your energy is higher late in the day. High cortisol at night will keep you awake so look into supplements and diet to lower your cortisol level. You might see if you can get a 24 hour cortisol test done as they can be very helpful. I take the supplement Seriphos to lower my cortisol level, and it really helped me sleep.

The other thing I've found very helpful with my insomnia is taking more magnesium as low magnesium causes insomnia. You need to take calcium, vitamin D3 and K along with the magnesium as they all work together. Be sure and take a form of magnesium that is more absorbable such as magnesium chloride, citrate or malate. DON'T take magnesium oxide as it passes through your system causing little more than raging diarrhea as it can't be absorbed.

Magnesium and Seriphos are the two things that have enabled me to be able to sleep on a regular basis.

If you're on meds, research if they deplete your magnesium levels as most meds and processed foods do.

Originally Posted by LucyG

It sounds like you have high cortisol at night which is why your energy is higher late in the day. High cortisol at night will keep you awake so look into supplements and diet to lower your cortisol level. You might see if you can get a 24 hour cortisol test done as they can be very helpful. I take the supplement Seriphos to lower my cortisol level, and it really helped me sleep.

The other thing I've found very helpful with my insomnia is taking more magnesium as low magnesium causes insomnia. You need to take calcium, vitamin D3 and K along with the magnesium as they all work together. Be sure and take a form of magnesium that is more absorbable such as magnesium chloride, citrate or malate. DON'T take magnesium oxide as it passes through your system causing little more than raging diarrhea as it can't be absorbed.

Magnesium and Seriphos are the two things that have enabled me to be able to sleep on a regular basis.

If you're on meds, research if they deplete your magnesium levels as most meds and processed foods do.

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Thanks for the info. I didn't know that. I'll start taking those vitamins. I'm glad to hear that magnesium and Seriphos helps you sleep. For now, Nyquil in the pill form is helping me sleep. I can't get tests done now since we currently hae no insurance since we're struggling financially now-

I'll keep that in mind for the future. Thanks. You've been a great help!

[yugh]

Hi,
An idea you might want to research is using the Monroe Institute's Hemisync products. So what is this?

in the 1950's-80's there was a man named Robert Monroe. He was a millionaire, lived in New York but he had a problem..he kept leaving his body. So he went to a number of doctors who all assured him he was sane. So he decided to go with his experiences.

He then bought some property in Virginia and started the Monroe Institute to research out of body experiences. He then experimented with different wavelengths in assisting other people to have out of body experiences what he so easily had.

He would put one frequency in one ear and a different frequency in the other ear. What he discovered was that the brain interprets the delta difference between the two frequencies. He discovered it could assist others in getting to the theta state quite quickly.

He patented the technology as Hemi-sync. It has been widely used over the years for postop recovery, insomnia, meditation, etc. If you go to hemi-sync dot com and look under the "Real life applications" you will find "sleep and dreams ". There's a large number of products to choose from. You might want to contact the Monroe Institute to get their advice on which one will work best for you.

Another idea is to meditate. Now, you might scoff at this thinking that it won't help you sleep. However, it's been my own personal experience that meditation puts you into a deep theta state.

Having said this, it's free BUT it's not easy to do at first. Most people think it's about not having any thoughts in your mind. This usually doesn't work. The trick is to keep your conscious mind occupied!

A created a free website "learningfrommydreams" dot com. There is a link on the page to meditation. i have listed many, many different ways to meditate. If you're interested, you should read through them and find one that "resonates' within you. Then give it a shot.

I tell people to set their expectations before starting. I recommend to only do it for 10-15 minutes a day AND to try to do it at the same time, to get into a habit.

I also recommend that before each meditation, one simply ask's one's guides to assist you.

Then keep it up day after day, week after week and month after month. You might be surprised at the results.

I hope this helps you.

With kind regards,
Guy

Originally Posted by Shy Introvert

Hi everyone, I'm new to this thread, but not the boards. I've had insomnia for years. So I would often take sleeping pills or melatonin. Well, nothing is working anymore! I have barely been able to sleep for two nights this week! Luckily I don't work, so I can sleep late when I need to!

I'm often tired during the day until late afternoon. It's crazy! I have energy at night usually. Do sleeping aids stop working after awhile? How can I get some deep quality sleep? I don't drink caffeine usually. This is weird!

What sleeping meds work the best? What can I do to get a good nights sleep? It doesn't help that I'm more stressed out now than usual since we might loose our house soon. Could that be part of the problem?

Originally Posted by yugh

Hi,
An idea you might want to research is using the Monroe Institute's Hemisync products. So what is this?

in the 1950's-80's there was a man named Robert Monroe. He was a millionaire, lived in New York but he had a problem..he kept leaving his body. So he went to a number of doctors who all assured him he was sane. So he decided to go with his experiences.

He then bought some property in Virginia and started the Monroe Institute to research out of body experiences. He then experimented with different wavelengths in assisting other people to have out of body experiences what he so easily had.

He would put one frequency in one ear and a different frequency in the other ear. What he discovered was that the brain interprets the delta difference between the two frequencies. He discovered it could assist others in getting to the theta state quite quickly.

He patented the technology as Hemi-sync. It has been widely used over the years for postop recovery, insomnia, meditation, etc. If you go to hemi-sync dot com and look under the "Real life applications" you will find "sleep and dreams ". There's a large number of products to choose from. You might want to contact the Monroe Institute to get their advice on which one will work best for you.

Another idea is to meditate. Now, you might scoff at this thinking that it won't help you sleep. However, it's been my own personal experience that meditation puts you into a deep theta state.

Having said this, it's free BUT it's not easy to do at first. Most people think it's about not having any thoughts in your mind. This usually doesn't work. The trick is to keep your conscious mind occupied!

A created a free website "learningfrommydreams" dot com. There is a link on the page to meditation. i have listed many, many different ways to meditate. If you're interested, you should read through them and find one that "resonates' within you. Then give it a shot.

I tell people to set their expectations before starting. I recommend to only do it for 10-15 minutes a day AND to try to do it at the same time, to get into a habit.

I also recommend that before each meditation, one simply ask's one's guides to assist you.

Then keep it up day after day, week after week and month after month. You might be surprised at the results.

I hope this helps you.

With kind regards,
Guy

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Hi Guy, I've never heard of the things that you mentioned, but it sounds interesting. I'll give meditation a try sometime. It sounds like it'll be hard, but I'll try it anyways. Thanks for the info. I think that being easily stressed out and a big worry wort most of the time doesn't help, ugh!

[DoubleNegative]

Meditation trumps medication. Beginning meditation is hard because it feels as if you are sitting doing nothing, until you see how active the body is while motionless. I listen to music and count the drum rhythms.

Introverts need social interaction, too! Socializing during the day helps me sleep at night.

[yugh]

I completely agree!
Guy

Originally Posted by DoubleNegative

Meditation trumps medication. Beginning meditation is hard because it feels as if you are sitting doing nothing, until you see how active the body is while motionless. I listen to music and count the drum rhythms.

Introverts need social interaction, too! Socializing during the day helps me sleep at night.

It doesn't help that I get stressed out easily. Right now I'm stressing out about not hearing back from two or three friends who I've known for a year or less. I'm afraid that they're ignoring me since I told them some bad news about possibly loosing our house soon which is super upsetting for them to not really care about that it seems like. WTH? I'd care if it was them. Hopefully they're just busy and not ignoring me on purpose.

[Perna]

Sounds like you have a sleep shift disorder thing happening. I would not do any sleep aids for awhile, that is probably helping cause the problem. Try some of these?

Sleep Better: Reset Your Clock for Better Rest

Originally Posted by Perna

Sounds like you have a sleep shift disorder thing happening. I would not do any sleep aids for awhile, that is probably helping cause the problem. Try some of these?

Sleep Better: Reset Your Clock for Better Rest

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I've never heard of that before. Thanks for letting me know that. OK, will do. Thanks. It doesn't help that my jerk husband was mean to me and yelled at me before bed last night about storing some stuff in the guest room that he expected me to move then, ugh!

And then I'm of course still stressed out about a lot of other things, so this doesn't help!