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Old Dec 29, 2014, 02:13 PM
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I have just joined this group also as I knew I needed some support with my depression. My doctor has been playing with my meds but nothing helps. Now Wellbutrin and Cymbalta. My depression is the kind where I hurt so bad that I can't stop crying. I have been depressed for many years but when I was young I used to do drugs to numb my feelings and "feel good" a temporary fix but I think what happened is that for years I numbed myself so much now the emotions and feelings are hitting me so hard I feel sometimes like I can't cope. I don't want to do this any more and I want some treatment that works. Does anyone know if medical marijuana would help and if a doctor would prescribe it or is it just for end of life issues. Anyway I am glad I found people who understand. My friends and family just say breathe and get over it but they don't understand Thank you for listening sad eyed lady
From my understanding you can get medical marijuana for mental health conditions including depression, however I think it is more difficult than getting it for physical ailments like chronic pain or to help cancer symptoms. My brother was saying you can't get medical MJ for depression but I think I've probably looked into it more recently than he has...for a time it was not approved for that but at least in my state I believe it is.

I more or less self medicate with cannabis and find it helpful...but have not obtained doctor recommendation, not to mention it a bit of a chunck of money to get an MMJ card and its legal here so, thus far seems more trouble than it is worth. But yeah I don't use the cannabis to 'numb' feelings kind of hard to explain but helps me deal with how I feel like instead of having racing thoughts and getting anxious or being consumed by the despair of depression I might look at it more objectively and calmly. Also it improves my mood even after the 'high' wears off.
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Old Dec 29, 2014, 02:30 PM
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i actually want to try medical mj for a bit. nothing else is working yet.
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Old Dec 29, 2014, 10:25 PM
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Interesting, as you probably know by now based on my past posts...I find cannabis helpful. But yet I cannot handle klonopin...that is for sure, never heard of klonopin for depression though, or do you mean you take it for anxiety?

Hey if it works for you that is great. Yeah the klonopin is for anxiety for me. I was crawling out of my skin with anxiety and it works soooo good. I know the dangers but I have never felt the urge to take more than prescribed and haven't had to increase dose.

In CA you can get a card for a hang nail. I don't know how hard it is to get a card in Michigan where I am now. Personally I wouldn't bother with it.

You guys may want to try CBD oil instead. It doesn't have THC and they claim that CBD is the stuff that helps. The THC makes some people paranoid or they don't like the high part.

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Old Jan 09, 2015, 06:21 PM
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I've had Prozac Paxil trazadone abilify elavil benzos cymbalta (current) and now low dose lithium, although I have never experienced mania, considering ECT but not sure if I can do it and not get fired for missing work, I already have FMLA for EDS chronic migraines and CD. I feel pretty hopeless
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Old Jan 10, 2015, 11:52 PM
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I'm pushing fifty and have been in and out of treatment for nearly 30 years.

Some meds seemed to strengthen my coping skills for a while, but I am not so sure any of them actually lift the depression to any significant degree or length of time.
Ditto, and it's getting OLD! I do enjoy the few moments of mania I experience from time to time. I can laugh at nothing. Otherwise there are few options but to suck it up or get high.
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Old Jan 19, 2015, 07:58 PM
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Hi, I have only been successful w cymbalta, too, which kinda sux bc it interacts with a lot of medications and I haven't been successful at tapering off and onto another medication. So, other than trazadone, have you heard of any meds that could supplement the cymbalta? I tried low dose abilify and it caused movement disorder, now I have RLS, forever, I guess.. And I tried deplin but felt no difference, other than it burned my stomach. Now I'm trying low dose lithium, btw I have never had a manic episode, ever, if it helps, I can't tell.. Although it has the lovely side effect of changing my sense of taste and causing wicked weight gain.. I've been considering restoril, thinking if i sleep more than 4 hrs a night my symptoms may improve.. But also considering lamical.. Any thoughts?
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Hi, I have only been successful w cymbalta, too, which kinda sux bc it interacts with a lot of medications and I haven't been successful at tapering off and onto another medication. So, other than trazadone, have you heard of any meds that could supplement the cymbalta? I tried low dose abilify and it caused movement disorder, now I have RLS, forever, I guess.. And I tried deplin but felt no difference, other than it burned my stomach. Now I'm trying low dose lithium, btw I have never had a manic episode, ever, if it helps, I can't tell.. Although it has the lovely side effect of changing my sense of taste and causing wicked weight gain.. I've been considering restoril, thinking if i sleep more than 4 hrs a night my symptoms may improve.. But also considering lamical.. Any thoughts?
I was on a low low dose of lithium to treat my depression and it ZERO for me, or made my moods worse. The only thing that's seemed to help with my depression and mood lability (not bipolar) has been lamictal. I love that stuff. I had previously been on all the SSRIs in the book (paxil, Prozac, Zoloft), cymbalta, risperidal, seroquel (AKA poison) neurontin . . . and I think that's it. I was pretty much ready to give up on meds all together before I found a good match with the lamictal (and lorezepam added in for good measure . . .for the anxiety portion of my moods).
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Old Jan 25, 2015, 08:55 PM
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If I was in a "green state" I would be all over that! I had tried the pain pills for the chronic pain I have. Then it started to really backfire a 10 fold of pain when wearing off. I cannot take one when the depression gets horribly bad, because my body goes threw a withdrawal so easy since I took pain pills roughly 2 1/2yrs. I have fell into I believe the worst of all pits for me. I have been in this state of mind for almost 2 months now. I stopped the pain pills a few weeks ago. Now the depression has me 24/7 pain, plus mentally and emotionally. I will see my psych this week and demand changes. Try that if he does not comply I am going back to pain pills.

I am stuck....all I want is some relief! Maybe have some energy to get to any appointment. I am not even dragging my feet. I cannot get myself together and go anywhere or think straight!

This really Sux! And I just want to try to live and get out of my siblings house.
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Old Jan 26, 2015, 12:34 PM
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I took opiates for a while earlier in my depression. Even though I wasn't as depressed then as I am now. But the opiates didn't do anything to lift the depression, and quitting the opiates didn't worsen the depression.
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I've tried several different anti-depressants across three classes with a few "class of their own" thrown in. Some have failed or pooped but I really struggle with side-effects that I find intolerable and incompatible with living a "normal" life. So does that make my depression treatment resistant or medication resistant or am I medication intolerant?

I've tried talking therapies in the past, not particularly effective, am trying CBT right now (too soon to say, but my gut instinct is that it isn't right for me) and I've had ECT which DID work. I'm not sure whether I'd want to go through ECT again, but even if I did it isn't an option where I live, neither are antidepressant combinations or augmentation.

So given that I haven't tried everything and there is one treatment that has worked well it would be unrealistic to describe my depression as treatment resistant even though the clinical definitions would suggest so.
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Old Mar 21, 2015, 02:48 PM
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remeron (mirtazapine) and seroquel (quetiapine) are working well for me, better than any others have.
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Hello do any of you guys have constant headaches with your dep/anx ?
And sort head twinges ?
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Hello Hunny!

Based on the title of your post, I was eager to open the thread and find out how I too, struggle from short term relief of medications. (some of them only last for 2 months.)

If I read your post in its entirety, I was hoping to hear a combination of medicines that helps with treatment resistant depression
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I started Topamax for migraine and increased my dose to 75 mg about a week ago. Over the past several days my mood has definitely improved to where I'm feeling close to normal I think! Imagine that! Can't say for sure, but I'm really wondering if it can be attributed to the Topamax, which I know is used as a mood stabilizer.

As much as this past week was dreadful with the fatigue of adjusting to the increased dose, if that's what it took to get to this improved mood (maybe a little hyper I daresay), so be it! This has been about 2 or so years since I've felt halfway decent. I full well deserve to be happy and live a life like most/many others on this planet!

Here's wishing those of you still suffering from this horrible disease experience a turnaround in your mood really soon.
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I'm happy for you newgal. It's great that your mood is lifting. Remember this moment if it gets bad again: it IS possible for you to feel better.

And you're right: you do deserve to feel happy and live your life.
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I am beginning to believe I have treatment resistant depression as the years pass. I have basically been on some kind of psych medication since I was 13--I am now 24. There have only been a couple of periods (lasting only a few months if that) I have not been on any medication due to my mood.
I am beginning to lose hope in anything working. I don't have the energy to fight anymore. My hopes get dashed too often, my attempts to change don't last and the roller coaster with the medications are starting to frustrate me.
I feel so lost and that there is no hope, no help for me. The hospitals around me are more for those struggling with addiction. For people like me, who have psych issues the hospitals are more for a stabilization or "just until the storm passes" so to speak.
Has anyone heard of TMS? Has anyone had this treatment? What was your opinion?
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Wow I feel like I could have written this post myself...the feelings of losing hope & hospitals only being until the storm passes & hopes being dashed over & over. I'm scared. I have teenage children & family who love me but how can one go on in misery every moment of their lives just for everyone else? It gets impossible after a while. I don't know about that other treatment, sorry. Best of luck to you.
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Old May 05, 2015, 06:31 PM
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Hello do any of you guys have constant headaches with your dep/anx ?
And sort head twinges ?
I do. I'm not actually sure if it's from the depression, the fact that I cry a lot, or a side effect of the Parnate. But it sucks.
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Thank you for timing the arrival of this new forum to coincide with my first day here. I'm pushing fifty and have been in and out of treatment for nearly 30 years.

Some meds seemed to strengthen my coping skills for a while, but I am not so sure any of them actually lift the depression to any significant degree or length of time. Wellbutrin and Effexor were pretty good until they were not, Depakote and a few others didn't help at all; I am struggling big-time right now, after a few years of reasonable success with Cymbalta. Recently started supplementing that with Trazadone and it helped a little.

Except for a lucky seven-month stretch about a year ago, I don't think I've ever been anything but depression or manic for more than a few days. The mania is rarely dangerously high (except to my bank account) but the depression can dip pretty deep and I've been hanging on the precipice for about two weeks now....which is why I am here. I tend to have a lot of anger with my depression, and I want to bite everyone's head off. Mostly I manage to restrain myself, by sheer strength of practical-reality awareness and years of practice - some days my acting reaching academy-award level.

My depression is rarely the "my life sucks" or "I am a bad person" brand; it is more along the lines of "people in general suck" and "the world sucks," so anything from a news headline to a dead kitten in the road can plague me for hours. Mostly I just don't give-a-flying flea one way or another. I don't actively want to die, but I don't particularly see why any of us work so freakin' hard to go on living in this world. Seems like the main thing "non-depressed" people have going for them is some kind of delusional gift for pretending things are better than they are.

Dear HunnyRose, I don't even know if I am doing this right. My response seems to just be an addition to your post. I'm going to end this and see what happens but I wanted you to know that you are not alone! I just feel like screw this life crap almost every day but I don't want to die, I want to not be so depressed that I just feel like I"m going through the motions everyday. My inability to pull my s*** together because I feel like I have cement in my brain and it doesn't seem to want to work (my brain). I just feel in slow motion and I HATE it and I get very anger too to the point where I am bawling and sometimes throw things or hit things. I know it sounds and that I am acting immature but gawd, it makes me so mad bc I feel like my life is just passing me by and that life acts on me vs me acting on life.

I've been on almost all the antidepressants and several of the atypical anti psychotic meds. I got restless leg syndrome from something and my RLS is more like involuntary movement stuff - like my legs and arms will kick out and if I don't have Mirapex, I have literally gone into convulsions. it's awful. And my shrink (who's awesome) wants me off the Mirapex because it's been proven to increase impulsivity(huge issue for me) as well as affecting other cognitive functions. I was like "are you kidding me?" and Im having super trouble getting off of it. Man, I've just gone on and one. So many people don't get it though because it doesn't show and I can smile and laugh and fake
everyone out bc they don't get it anyway.
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Hello Hunny!

Based on the title of your post, I was eager to open the thread and find out how I too, struggle from short term relief of medications. (some of them only last for 2 months.)

If I read your post in its entirety, I was hoping to hear a combination of medicines that helps with treatment resistant depression
Hi, I have bipolar 2, with treatment resistant depression. I have taken just about all of the antidepressants at one time or another. Right now, I take Remeron 30 mg and Effexor xr 150 mg. Psychiatrists call this California Rocket Fuel, and it is only used for treatment resistant depression. I also take 5 mg of Abilify as a mood stabilizer, and 100 mg of Trazodone at night to sleep. This combination has been working for me for about 4 1/2 years now. It doesnt keep the depression away, but it makes it much easier to deal with. I have very bad anxiety also, which in a lot of ways is worse than the depression. Untreated Depression and Anxiety is very hard to tolerate for any length of time.The Abilify seems to work on the Anxiety as well as the Remeron and Effexor. If you have never tried this combo, I would give it a try. I tried ECT twice, but it did not last, and it was very expensive for the insurance company to pay for something that was only effective for a month and then you have to do it again. I hope this helps.
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One common treatment for doctors sometimes for treatment resistant are MAOI medications. It's an older class of medicine and works differently than SSRIs or anything other antidepressant as far I know. MAOIs, Monoamine-Oxidase Inhibitors work by decreasing MAO, which stands for Monoamine-Oxidase. Don't quote me on this I'm no doctor but this is how my psychiatrist explained it to me. Basically, MAO is an enzyme that the brain activates that breaks down nor epinephrine, serotonin and dopamine So some people with depression may not have less serotonin but actually too much MAO being produced and that can cause depression too. One of these MAOI's is called Nardil and has been pretty good for me for the depression, Still not sure if it's best for me.

One other thing I wanted to mention is that there is a supplement called DHA, which is a type of fish oil which studies have shown to really help mood and One of the major building blocks of the brain, the omega-3 fatty acid docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) is critical for optimal brain health and function at all ages of life. Researchers are now finding that DHA provides brain-boosting benefits. I've been taking it for 6 months now and it has made a big difference in my life
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ECT seems quite scary and it has a lot of negative connotations, but there was a point for me where I felt that I needed to do something radical so I agreed to it. The reality for me was that it wasn't too scary, everything was explained well beforehand, as for the actual treatment it was done under general anaesthetic so all I know is that I went under and then woke up with a bit of a fuzzy head and a stiff jaw. After I slept off the anaesthetic I felt a bit wired but this wore off after a couple of hours. Initially my mood would sink again but after about 4 treatments my mood stayed wired for a bit longer and stopped sinking as low. After about 8 treatments my mood stayed a little on the high side and this persisted for a few weeks.

In all I had 13 treatments, eventually my slightly high mood settled into just below normal, so I needed to keep on with therapy and meds for several years. It wasn't a miracle cure but it took me from almost catatonic with zero motivation, hardly eating and not caring for myself to a functioning but moderately unhappy person.

The side effects for me were headache (mostly slept off with the remainder of the anaesthetic), stiff jaw (the doc made a slight change of dose to the muscle relaxant they used so this only happened once), feeling slightly wired and anxious (no worse than agitated depression and it was self limiting), feeling slightly high (again time limited) and short term memory loss. The memory loss was a little strange because I didn't notice it until people told me about stuff and I'd struggle to remember what they were talking about. I found that reading my diaries and asking people for detailed descriptions of the events I was struggling to recall helped. Even now after many years I find that odd lost memories from that time return. Some people report long-term, permanent memory loss.

There are two reasons why I am not considering ECT right now, it is not available in the area where I live and I don't have anyone to drive me to a different town two or three times a week for between 6 and 8 weeks. Also I'm not at the non functioning state I was in back then and I believe there may be better options (for me) out there, I'm just struggling to access them.

There are lots of threads about ECT in the Other Treatments forum if you want to find out about other people's experience. Some people swear by it, others regret having ECT, I'm somewhere in the middle, I know it worked for me, but even so I'm not sure I'm ready to try it again.
I am new, so here goes, I have heard alot about the "Fisher-Wallace" unit, (initially heard about in Psychology Today magazine about 5-6 years ago?), and always wondered if my shrink would write an rx for me to try it, it's about $600.00, and some insurance companies won't cover it, saw it on Dr. Oz for "sleep" issues. Has anyone heard or tried this for treatment resistant depression? I have been depressed on and off, for as long as I can remember, due to familial and circumstances, for over 30 years, and would like to be a guinea pig for this new thing. Any one have any comments? Would love to hear them, thanks!
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you sound like a kindred spirit- but of course it isn't politically correct to say these things out loud. thanks for making me smile today.
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Well, that remark (below) did get me laughing. A dark humor kind of laugh.

Until recently (last couple of years; age 58), I have been depressed and on many different meds. What happened to me? I tend to think that I was suddenly able to see life on this planet and in this universe as it really is. That is, that the overwhelming majority of people "may" indeed have some sort of delusional gift especially when it comes to believing in an perfect afterlife, a God, angels, etc. Perhaps in order to humankind to survive they need these possible delusions and brain chemistry (serotonin and certain pathways, same with the other neurotransmittors) is hardwired in a certain way to make these possible delusions. Wish I still had them (possible delusions) and the possible hardwired brain chemistry. At least I would be happy.

I am trying hard to focus on just how profound this universe is (universes within universes, string theory, simply the profundity of the night time sky) and keep in mind that that anything is possible...the delusions of these people "may" not be delusions after all.

Any way you twist and turn it, we are having a way out experience. Trying hard not to forget that and that I should feel somehow fortunate despite all the pain that surrounds me. Perhaps to see this more clearly, we need to "enlarge the borders" of our mind.

Take care, my friend.

Anna, "preaching" to herself, I reckon.

QUOTE=hunnyrose;4003489] Seems like the main thing "non-depressed" people have going for them is some kind of delusional gift for pretending things are better than they are.[/QUOTE]
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I have major suicidal ideation with attempts, which are the hallmarks of my treatment resistant depression. I take effexor xr, welbutrin xl, abilify, seroquel for sleep and klonopin for anxiety. That has been my med routine for the past 16 years and it has worked somewhat. But now I have added ECT every 2 weeks, and will be adding a low dose of clozaril. TRD is the pits!!!
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Old Jun 13, 2016, 09:51 PM
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It is the pits.

Curious to know if anyone here--new to the forum TRD--has gone the L methyl folate route?

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