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Default Mar 21, 2015 at 02:48 PM
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remeron (mirtazapine) and seroquel (quetiapine) are working well for me, better than any others have.
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Default Apr 05, 2015 at 04:46 PM
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Hello do any of you guys have constant headaches with your dep/anx ?
And sort head twinges ?
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Default Apr 19, 2015 at 11:57 PM
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Hello Hunny!

Based on the title of your post, I was eager to open the thread and find out how I too, struggle from short term relief of medications. (some of them only last for 2 months.)

If I read your post in its entirety, I was hoping to hear a combination of medicines that helps with treatment resistant depression
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I started Topamax for migraine and increased my dose to 75 mg about a week ago. Over the past several days my mood has definitely improved to where I'm feeling close to normal I think! Imagine that! Can't say for sure, but I'm really wondering if it can be attributed to the Topamax, which I know is used as a mood stabilizer.

As much as this past week was dreadful with the fatigue of adjusting to the increased dose, if that's what it took to get to this improved mood (maybe a little hyper I daresay), so be it! This has been about 2 or so years since I've felt halfway decent. I full well deserve to be happy and live a life like most/many others on this planet!

Here's wishing those of you still suffering from this horrible disease experience a turnaround in your mood really soon.
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I'm happy for you newgal. It's great that your mood is lifting. Remember this moment if it gets bad again: it IS possible for you to feel better.

And you're right: you do deserve to feel happy and live your life.
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Default May 03, 2015 at 02:23 PM
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I am beginning to believe I have treatment resistant depression as the years pass. I have basically been on some kind of psych medication since I was 13--I am now 24. There have only been a couple of periods (lasting only a few months if that) I have not been on any medication due to my mood.
I am beginning to lose hope in anything working. I don't have the energy to fight anymore. My hopes get dashed too often, my attempts to change don't last and the roller coaster with the medications are starting to frustrate me.
I feel so lost and that there is no hope, no help for me. The hospitals around me are more for those struggling with addiction. For people like me, who have psych issues the hospitals are more for a stabilization or "just until the storm passes" so to speak.
Has anyone heard of TMS? Has anyone had this treatment? What was your opinion?
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Wow I feel like I could have written this post myself...the feelings of losing hope & hospitals only being until the storm passes & hopes being dashed over & over. I'm scared. I have teenage children & family who love me but how can one go on in misery every moment of their lives just for everyone else? It gets impossible after a while. I don't know about that other treatment, sorry. Best of luck to you.
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Default May 05, 2015 at 06:31 PM
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Hello do any of you guys have constant headaches with your dep/anx ?
And sort head twinges ?
I do. I'm not actually sure if it's from the depression, the fact that I cry a lot, or a side effect of the Parnate. But it sucks.
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Thank you for timing the arrival of this new forum to coincide with my first day here. I'm pushing fifty and have been in and out of treatment for nearly 30 years.

Some meds seemed to strengthen my coping skills for a while, but I am not so sure any of them actually lift the depression to any significant degree or length of time. Wellbutrin and Effexor were pretty good until they were not, Depakote and a few others didn't help at all; I am struggling big-time right now, after a few years of reasonable success with Cymbalta. Recently started supplementing that with Trazadone and it helped a little.

Except for a lucky seven-month stretch about a year ago, I don't think I've ever been anything but depression or manic for more than a few days. The mania is rarely dangerously high (except to my bank account) but the depression can dip pretty deep and I've been hanging on the precipice for about two weeks now....which is why I am here. I tend to have a lot of anger with my depression, and I want to bite everyone's head off. Mostly I manage to restrain myself, by sheer strength of practical-reality awareness and years of practice - some days my acting reaching academy-award level.

My depression is rarely the "my life sucks" or "I am a bad person" brand; it is more along the lines of "people in general suck" and "the world sucks," so anything from a news headline to a dead kitten in the road can plague me for hours. Mostly I just don't give-a-flying flea one way or another. I don't actively want to die, but I don't particularly see why any of us work so freakin' hard to go on living in this world. Seems like the main thing "non-depressed" people have going for them is some kind of delusional gift for pretending things are better than they are.

Dear HunnyRose, I don't even know if I am doing this right. My response seems to just be an addition to your post. I'm going to end this and see what happens but I wanted you to know that you are not alone! I just feel like screw this life crap almost every day but I don't want to die, I want to not be so depressed that I just feel like I"m going through the motions everyday. My inability to pull my s*** together because I feel like I have cement in my brain and it doesn't seem to want to work (my brain). I just feel in slow motion and I HATE it and I get very anger too to the point where I am bawling and sometimes throw things or hit things. I know it sounds and that I am acting immature but gawd, it makes me so mad bc I feel like my life is just passing me by and that life acts on me vs me acting on life.

I've been on almost all the antidepressants and several of the atypical anti psychotic meds. I got restless leg syndrome from something and my RLS is more like involuntary movement stuff - like my legs and arms will kick out and if I don't have Mirapex, I have literally gone into convulsions. it's awful. And my shrink (who's awesome) wants me off the Mirapex because it's been proven to increase impulsivity(huge issue for me) as well as affecting other cognitive functions. I was like "are you kidding me?" and Im having super trouble getting off of it. Man, I've just gone on and one. So many people don't get it though because it doesn't show and I can smile and laugh and fake
everyone out bc they don't get it anyway.
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Hello Hunny!

Based on the title of your post, I was eager to open the thread and find out how I too, struggle from short term relief of medications. (some of them only last for 2 months.)

If I read your post in its entirety, I was hoping to hear a combination of medicines that helps with treatment resistant depression
Hi, I have bipolar 2, with treatment resistant depression. I have taken just about all of the antidepressants at one time or another. Right now, I take Remeron 30 mg and Effexor xr 150 mg. Psychiatrists call this California Rocket Fuel, and it is only used for treatment resistant depression. I also take 5 mg of Abilify as a mood stabilizer, and 100 mg of Trazodone at night to sleep. This combination has been working for me for about 4 1/2 years now. It doesnt keep the depression away, but it makes it much easier to deal with. I have very bad anxiety also, which in a lot of ways is worse than the depression. Untreated Depression and Anxiety is very hard to tolerate for any length of time.The Abilify seems to work on the Anxiety as well as the Remeron and Effexor. If you have never tried this combo, I would give it a try. I tried ECT twice, but it did not last, and it was very expensive for the insurance company to pay for something that was only effective for a month and then you have to do it again. I hope this helps.
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One common treatment for doctors sometimes for treatment resistant are MAOI medications. It's an older class of medicine and works differently than SSRIs or anything other antidepressant as far I know. MAOIs, Monoamine-Oxidase Inhibitors work by decreasing MAO, which stands for Monoamine-Oxidase. Don't quote me on this I'm no doctor but this is how my psychiatrist explained it to me. Basically, MAO is an enzyme that the brain activates that breaks down nor epinephrine, serotonin and dopamine So some people with depression may not have less serotonin but actually too much MAO being produced and that can cause depression too. One of these MAOI's is called Nardil and has been pretty good for me for the depression, Still not sure if it's best for me.

One other thing I wanted to mention is that there is a supplement called DHA, which is a type of fish oil which studies have shown to really help mood and One of the major building blocks of the brain, the omega-3 fatty acid docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) is critical for optimal brain health and function at all ages of life. Researchers are now finding that DHA provides brain-boosting benefits. I've been taking it for 6 months now and it has made a big difference in my life

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ECT seems quite scary and it has a lot of negative connotations, but there was a point for me where I felt that I needed to do something radical so I agreed to it. The reality for me was that it wasn't too scary, everything was explained well beforehand, as for the actual treatment it was done under general anaesthetic so all I know is that I went under and then woke up with a bit of a fuzzy head and a stiff jaw. After I slept off the anaesthetic I felt a bit wired but this wore off after a couple of hours. Initially my mood would sink again but after about 4 treatments my mood stayed wired for a bit longer and stopped sinking as low. After about 8 treatments my mood stayed a little on the high side and this persisted for a few weeks.

In all I had 13 treatments, eventually my slightly high mood settled into just below normal, so I needed to keep on with therapy and meds for several years. It wasn't a miracle cure but it took me from almost catatonic with zero motivation, hardly eating and not caring for myself to a functioning but moderately unhappy person.

The side effects for me were headache (mostly slept off with the remainder of the anaesthetic), stiff jaw (the doc made a slight change of dose to the muscle relaxant they used so this only happened once), feeling slightly wired and anxious (no worse than agitated depression and it was self limiting), feeling slightly high (again time limited) and short term memory loss. The memory loss was a little strange because I didn't notice it until people told me about stuff and I'd struggle to remember what they were talking about. I found that reading my diaries and asking people for detailed descriptions of the events I was struggling to recall helped. Even now after many years I find that odd lost memories from that time return. Some people report long-term, permanent memory loss.

There are two reasons why I am not considering ECT right now, it is not available in the area where I live and I don't have anyone to drive me to a different town two or three times a week for between 6 and 8 weeks. Also I'm not at the non functioning state I was in back then and I believe there may be better options (for me) out there, I'm just struggling to access them.

There are lots of threads about ECT in the Other Treatments forum if you want to find out about other people's experience. Some people swear by it, others regret having ECT, I'm somewhere in the middle, I know it worked for me, but even so I'm not sure I'm ready to try it again.
I am new, so here goes, I have heard alot about the "Fisher-Wallace" unit, (initially heard about in Psychology Today magazine about 5-6 years ago?), and always wondered if my shrink would write an rx for me to try it, it's about $600.00, and some insurance companies won't cover it, saw it on Dr. Oz for "sleep" issues. Has anyone heard or tried this for treatment resistant depression? I have been depressed on and off, for as long as I can remember, due to familial and circumstances, for over 30 years, and would like to be a guinea pig for this new thing. Any one have any comments? Would love to hear them, thanks!
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you sound like a kindred spirit- but of course it isn't politically correct to say these things out loud. thanks for making me smile today.
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Well, that remark (below) did get me laughing. A dark humor kind of laugh.

Until recently (last couple of years; age 58), I have been depressed and on many different meds. What happened to me? I tend to think that I was suddenly able to see life on this planet and in this universe as it really is. That is, that the overwhelming majority of people "may" indeed have some sort of delusional gift especially when it comes to believing in an perfect afterlife, a God, angels, etc. Perhaps in order to humankind to survive they need these possible delusions and brain chemistry (serotonin and certain pathways, same with the other neurotransmittors) is hardwired in a certain way to make these possible delusions. Wish I still had them (possible delusions) and the possible hardwired brain chemistry. At least I would be happy.

I am trying hard to focus on just how profound this universe is (universes within universes, string theory, simply the profundity of the night time sky) and keep in mind that that anything is possible...the delusions of these people "may" not be delusions after all.

Any way you twist and turn it, we are having a way out experience. Trying hard not to forget that and that I should feel somehow fortunate despite all the pain that surrounds me. Perhaps to see this more clearly, we need to "enlarge the borders" of our mind.

Take care, my friend.

Anna, "preaching" to herself, I reckon.

QUOTE=hunnyrose;4003489] Seems like the main thing "non-depressed" people have going for them is some kind of delusional gift for pretending things are better than they are.[/QUOTE]
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Default Jun 12, 2016 at 07:58 AM
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I have major suicidal ideation with attempts, which are the hallmarks of my treatment resistant depression. I take effexor xr, welbutrin xl, abilify, seroquel for sleep and klonopin for anxiety. That has been my med routine for the past 16 years and it has worked somewhat. But now I have added ECT every 2 weeks, and will be adding a low dose of clozaril. TRD is the pits!!!
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It is the pits.

Curious to know if anyone here--new to the forum TRD--has gone the L methyl folate route?

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I have major suicidal ideation with attempts, which are the hallmarks of my treatment resistant depression. I take effexor xr, welbutrin xl, abilify, seroquel for sleep and klonopin for anxiety. That has been my med routine for the past 16 years and it has worked somewhat. But now I have added ECT every 2 weeks, and will be adding a low dose of clozaril. TRD is the pits!!!
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It is the pits.

Curious to know if anyone here--new to the forum TRD--has gone the L methyl folate route?

Anna

Yes. But I'm a newbie so no insight yet. Just got genetic testing done and I have the particular gene series that indicates that I need L methyl folate supplements basically for the rest of my life. I started Deplin 4 days ago and am trying to be cautiously hopeful, as I have tried pretty much everything else medication wise to no avail. I'm also entering a ketamine trial next month so hopefully one, the other, or both will finally give me some relief.

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I too have found Hydrocodone to be the best anti depressant out there. I don't have any chronic pain but on occasions (kidney stones, tooth aches, etc) I have taken it and it has totally lifted the depression while the effects lasted. I have also taken it at times when I shouldn't have to relieve depression. I am a recovering addict/ addictive personality so not a good option for me. I don't ever take it now unless I really need it for pain for some reason. Oh how I wish it wasn't addictive and had no withdrawal. They should study it more. Works better than amphetamines and I have experience with those back in my days of drug use.


They are studying it actually. The drug company Alkermes has something they've been working on that I've been watching, tentatively called alks5461. It was given fast track status by FDA but it's still might be a while & still faces hurdles. It's supposedly designed to block the addictive properties via mu receptor. There was an article in the NYTimes a couple weeks ago about opioids for depression; naturally occurring, how some may be 'low' just like serotonin.


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I have been on SSRI's and SNRI's for about 25 years and a lifetime of depression. I have had about 3 major depressive episodes and I am currently in the third. I am starting ECT next week. I have to do something b/c I don't want to get out of bed or leave the house.
In terms of medication the miracle for me was stimulants. I became the person I always wanted to be. I had lots of energy, lost weight, and was very social. Problem.....I kept needing more and more to maintain the transformation. I am an alcoholic and began to feel addicted to stimulants (Adderall). When coming off of the stimulant I would feel a crash. So, I told my doctor and stopped stimulants after two years and crashed BIG time.
So now ECT then back on some kind of med for depression then hopefully I can function and return to work.
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What kind of stimulant?

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