Why are men so cold & unemotional?

So true. I was so stupid. I froze. I didn’t think anyone would care or do anything as people obviously saw what happened & did nothing. No one even asked me if I was OK.

I’m so sorry to hesr about what happened to you with those two creeps. You didn’t owe either of them anything. The friend who expected you to thank the creep is part of the problem. I’d be pissed!

No wonder why sexual predators think they can get away with this behavior! They have enablers! It’s a good thing that you didn’t enabke their bad behavior.

Next time loudly say no, get away from me you creep, I said don’t touch me! Then ger them kicked out by the manager if they don’t leave. I’d do that if that happened to me now.

I’ve had it. I dont care if I make a scene now. I will
probably go nuclear on the next loser who dares to mess with me be it a man or a woman, lol! I will make them extremely sorry they messed with me. I won’t hit them, but I will make a scene, scream & get the offender kicked out, lol.

The exception would be for Uber. I dont want a repeat of the Lyft story. Those jerks obviously won’t even listen to the customers story. I’ll just report thing’s anonymously right away.

By the time the guy in the shop made a scene, it was too late for ME to make one, lol. Seriously, it wasn't funny though.

Their behavior gets reinforced by people who think it's okay. They are raised as boys, that it's okay for "boys to be boys" and get away with such behavior. Women don't come up to the men like that, in general. But men approach women. And my "friend" was so invalidating, it was hurtful and disrespectful not to see my side of it. She thinks it's a compliment and said she wished men noticed HER. Be careful of what you wish for, and that kind of attention is NOT a compliment. But you know how some women can be, not at all supportive.

Men are always harassing me actually. It's usually from much older men, who think they are some kind of Don Juan. It's sad in a way.

I've never taken an Uber or Lyft, I don't even have the app or know how to use it anyway. Still, I wouldn't be comfortable at all. I've taken cabs before but that feels more "regulated" or something.

“Ghetto people”? What are you referring to (I don’t want to assume)?

I don’t think he did tell them to stop, there’s all kinds of different pressures on young guys to appear cool. Yes probably women get more harassment but men definitely can.

My own thoughts are that those of us who raise sons and daughters have a responsibility to address this stuff. My son has spoken out when he has seen others being harassed. In fact I work with younger men and actually they also call out that kind of behaviour from other men. From my experience I see that sort of thing improving from my younger days. Just my perspective and experience of course.

In my experience, it's the much younger men that are courteous to me and older men seem to do the harassing, most of the time. It seems to be a generational thing, as the older men seem to think it's flattering to women to behave that way. And in my post about those two men, both of them were much older than me.

Younger men were raised under the MeToo movement, so there's way more awareness of what they say and do now. Previous generations had no such movement. Because so many women speak up now, and it's involved famous men too at times, today's young men are more conscious. Of course not ALL but it's a different time now.

I'm also thinking of Anita Hill and how if the trial were held today, the outcome would be different.

It’s sad & disturbing to how some men can easily get away with this disgusting behavior. If I had a friend like that, I’d end the friendship.

Maybe taking a cab is better.

Generally speaking, low class people as far as attitude & behavior goes. Low to no class, people who steal & have no manners. Money was stolen out of my backpack when my back was turned - as well as some small items like a pager that I hid behind something. Lowlifes. Wanna be gangster types.

Sleazy types too. One lady was a phone sex operator & she’d loudly brag about the sick & personal things she got guys to do on the phone, ew, so inappropriate!

Some of them were loud obnoxious arrogant types who had this tough gangster vibe about them including the women there.

Even my female supervisor acted like she was this tough intimidating type at times. I hated that place. Not everyone was like that, but to many people there were definitely not the type I’d ever want to associate with.

DrMaybe you have a point there. Hopefully the next generation of men will turn out to be more respectful to women. Apparently some younger men like my chiropractor apparently have no manners.

Yes. And I did end the friendship a couple of years ago now....and it wasn't over that. Back then she was just an acquaintance and I thought she'd be a real friend at some point. I got fed up with her judgement, lack of validation and empathy, her insensitivity, and bossy, overbearing, loud ways with everyone it seems. She's so loud, and one time a nice old man wearing a hearing aid asked her to please lower her voice. She did not.

I don't know about these things but I THINK cabs may cost way more. But I haven't taken one in years and have never taken Uber or Lyft---wouldn't want to either.

Good for you. She sounds awful. I’d never be friends with someone like that.

Yes, she was. And for awhile, she was all I had so I thought it was better than nothing. Now I realize nothing is better, since she was nothing herself.

I have more boundaries now after all that. It was so hurtful. We had nothing in common either, and after knowing her 5 years I knew nothing more about her than when we met. No connection. She never opened up about anything like I did, so I don't never really knew her. But I know enough now.

Being that she doesn't get attention from men, she doesn't know what's creepy and what's flattering. And I guess it would differ from woman to woman. Still, one expects other women to at least be sympathetic.

Oddly, it took COVID and lockdowns for me to realize there's no real connection. I mean I didn't even MISS her during lockdowns, and I thought it was a real red flag. I talked to her on the phone but even that I could have lived without. She was always saying stuff like "You should______" or "Why don't you _______?" or "Well did you complain to the manager?"

I guess she's a bit of a "Karen".....I know I'm off topic now but we've talked about cold or superficial women before......