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Old Apr 10, 2014, 12:48 PM
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I know...I wasted a lot of years being unhappy in jobs. Part of it is to change the way of thinking. Easier said than done. I had jobs I hated...but there were duties and co-workers that I enjoyed and tried to focus on that. We cannot always change the situation and you cannot change the people you do not like.... we can change our thinking and work on the journey into something the we feel better about on a daily basis.
I do agree with you partially. I had a job where my coworkers and I for the most part got along really really great (there was one who was so-so). We were all friends, got together outside of work, and had fun at work when we could. We were supportive of each other and watched each other's backs. I don't think I will EVER have a work experience with coworkers like that again.

The downside is the supervisors were terrible. My supervisor was intent on making my life miserable and picked on everything she could find. Even if I went out of my way to compliment her, say good things about her to others and even defend her, it was NEVER good enough. Ever! She always found something to fault. I remember she didn't like the way I wrote my reports because her edits conflicted with the editing settings of Microsoft Word She complained to her supervisors about that and when I had a meeting with them later on and they mentioned it, I told them why the document was corrected that way and they even laughed! It was pure absurdity with her. I was constantly written up and she even got her supervisor to go along with it. The management seemed to do whatever they could to make my life miserable while I was there.

I can't believe how much personality goes into keeping a job nowadays. Sometimes I wonder what would be worse-- having a coworker or two plot against you, even with excellent management and challenging but rewarding work, or having your direct supervisor hate your guts even with excellent coworkers. The next time I get a job, I don't want to end up leaving after a couple of years because it'll look bad on my resume...but finding out what kind of culture a workplace has is so difficult. Reading sites like glassdoor does help me get a good idea. Let's just say whenever I read something negative, I believe it entirely because it turns out to be true!
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Old Apr 10, 2014, 04:37 PM
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I do agree with you partially. I had a job where my coworkers and I for the most part got along really really great (there was one who was so-so). We were all friends, got together outside of work, and had fun at work when we could. We were supportive of each other and watched each other's backs. I don't think I will EVER have a work experience with coworkers like that again.

The downside is the supervisors were terrible. My supervisor was intent on making my life miserable and picked on everything she could find. Even if I went out of my way to compliment her, say good things about her to others and even defend her, it was NEVER good enough. Ever! She always found something to fault. I remember she didn't like the way I wrote my reports because her edits conflicted with the editing settings of Microsoft Word She complained to her supervisors about that and when I had a meeting with them later on and they mentioned it, I told them why the document was corrected that way and they even laughed! It was pure absurdity with her. I was constantly written up and she even got her supervisor to go along with it. The management seemed to do whatever they could to make my life miserable while I was there.

I can't believe how much personality goes into keeping a job nowadays. Sometimes I wonder what would be worse-- having a coworker or two plot against you, even with excellent management and challenging but rewarding work, or having your direct supervisor hate your guts even with excellent coworkers. The next time I get a job, I don't want to end up leaving after a couple of years because it'll look bad on my resume...but finding out what kind of culture a workplace has is so difficult. Reading sites like glassdoor does help me get a good idea. Let's just say whenever I read something negative, I believe it entirely because it turns out to be true!
I just want to follow up about the - "leaving every couple years" - on resume. The right manager or boss understands that people may leave jobs because they are not treated well, the pay was bad or...whatever. In this day and age...depending what you want to do for a living, the more your brain can learn how to do the more valuable you are in my opinion. Some of those that have stayed in the same position for a very long time cannot transition very well and are afraid of learning something new. And there are those positions that we need people that are happy in what they are doing even if it's viewed as mundane by someone else. As I get older the less I tolerate being treated like s**t.
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I just want to follow up about the - "leaving every couple years" - on resume. The right manager or boss understands that people may leave jobs because they are not treated well, the pay was bad or...whatever. In this day and age...depending what you want to do for a living, the more your brain can learn how to do the more valuable you are in my opinion. Some of those that have stayed in the same position for a very long time cannot transition very well and are afraid of learning something new. And there are those positions that we need people that are happy in what they are doing even if it's viewed as mundane by someone else. As I get older the less I tolerate being treated like s**t.

IMO, Good management is doing the company and the employee a disservice by allowing an employee to do the same task for years. The company does not have somebody to cross train and the employee become stagnet. Usually this is not a happy situation for the employee but some like it. Unfortunately that is not good for the company. I feel bad for people in this situation because I have seen entire industries crumble. It is devastating to the employee that looses their job. Honestly they usually end up happier although it can take a long time and be very painful along the way. My recommendation is always to concentrate on CAREER security over JOB security. It never too late to start.

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Old Apr 10, 2014, 09:48 PM
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Sorry to hear that. Not sure what kind of company you work for but document what is going on & go to HR...if they do not help..start to figure out a plan to leave. Good luck. We spend way to much time working and no one should suffer abuse at work!
Thank you very much. I'm in the direction to move on after I graduate from school in a couple of months. So I am still going to keep an optimistic outlook even though the environment is hella cruddy. Just have to hang in there. I'll be done in July...super stoked about that.
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Old Apr 11, 2014, 10:34 AM
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I'm feeling really frustrated at work right now. I like my job most of the time, but lately the boss has decided that because I'm doing such a great job, he should add more projects to my workload.

I was already pretty overwhelmed with projects and now I have a bunch of new stuff to work on. I honestly don't feel like I can get everything done without working 12 hours every day and I am feeling SO OVERWHELMED. Ughhh.

I have pretty mild depression and social anxiety, which I have actually been managing really well this week (Yay! this is the first time I've felt like I wasn't anxious in months!) but I just got a critical email from my boss and my mood almost immediately went back down. I'm starting to feel anxious and depressed again and I hate, hate, hate it.
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I'm feeling really frustrated at work right now. I like my job most of the time, but lately the boss has decided that because I'm doing such a great job, he should add more projects to my workload.

I was already pretty overwhelmed with projects and now I have a bunch of new stuff to work on. I honestly don't feel like I can get everything done without working 12 hours every day and I am feeling SO OVERWHELMED. Ughhh.

I have pretty mild depression and social anxiety, which I have actually been managing really well this week (Yay! this is the first time I've felt like I wasn't anxious in months!) but I just got a critical email from my boss and my mood almost immediately went back down. I'm starting to feel anxious and depressed again and I hate, hate, hate it.

This is when you practice those assertive skills . Part of being such a great employee is being honest with your boss about having too much.

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Old Apr 12, 2014, 07:24 AM
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I'm feeling really frustrated at work right now. I like my job most of the time, but lately the boss has decided that because I'm doing such a great job, he should add more projects to my workload.

I was already pretty overwhelmed with projects and now I have a bunch of new stuff to work on. I honestly don't feel like I can get everything done without working 12 hours every day and I am feeling SO OVERWHELMED. Ughhh.

I have pretty mild depression and social anxiety, which I have actually been managing really well this week (Yay! this is the first time I've felt like I wasn't anxious in months!) but I just got a critical email from my boss and my mood almost immediately went back down. I'm starting to feel anxious and depressed again and I hate, hate, hate it.
What I have done in the past...when I am overloaded and they "do not get it"... I ask "what are the priorities?" "There are many things to accomplish - I want to make sure you and I are on the same page". Maybe...just maybe they may assign some of your minor duties to someone else so you can get the work done. My issue is when I feel like I am busting my butt and some of the co-workers do not have the same work ethic. Manage your manager .
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Old Apr 12, 2014, 01:13 PM
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I would really have a talk with your boss about being overwhelmed with too many projects. I'd ask for clarification on what are the most pertinent projects and then explain briefly how in order to do good work on those, you need to have the other projects taken off your plate. Encourage your manager to use his delegation skills.

I have also been in work situations where the supervisors thought it was be a good idea to keep piling my plate on with more work. "But you do such a good job!" Yes, until I quit and then they got the message. Ugh.
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I would really have a talk with your boss about being overwhelmed with too many projects. I'd ask for clarification on what are the most pertinent projects and then explain briefly how in order to do good work on those, you need to have the other projects taken off your plate. Encourage your manager to use his delegation skills.


I have also been in work situations where the supervisors thought it was be a good idea to keep piling my plate on with more work. "But you do such a good job!" Yes, until I quit and then they got the message. Ugh.

Yeah... . They add two people instead of one. Would have been much cheaper to keep you and add or transition a second to train therefore giving you management/training experience.

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Old Apr 12, 2014, 08:09 PM
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I thought I had troubles at work. I see I am not the only one. I like what I do but the new management has become a massive bully. I work 50 to 60 hours a week, and I stay stressed, exhausted and depressed. I wish I could rest and work a part-time job but I am the sole support of my household.
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I thought I had troubles at work. I see I am not the only one. I like what I do but the new management has become a massive bully. I work 50 to 60 hours a week, and I stay stressed, exhausted and depressed. I wish I could rest and work a part-time job but I am the sole support of my household.
.....and I'm sure it's difficult not to let your job take very the best of you - and does not leave much for the family. I hope it gets better for you soon.
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Sorry to hear that. Not sure what kind of company you work for but document what is going on & go to HR...if they do not help..start to figure out a plan to leave. Good luck. We spend way to much time working and no one should suffer abuse at work!
Please don't waste your time and emotional energy documenting the abuse or bother going to HR - 7 out of 10 people who report bullying to HR lose their job. And I know this firsthand, having had it recently happen to me. HR is there to protect the company, not the employee, and once it's been determined you're no longer drinking the Kool-Aid and being a good little employee, they will find a way to eliminate you.

Best bet: cut your losses and move on just as soon as you can. Don't wait until you go into a major depression as I did - that's how I found this board!
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I think these anxious dreams I keep having about work while trying to fall asleep is an indication for me to work less.
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Old Apr 20, 2014, 04:43 AM
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Please don't waste your time and emotional energy documenting the abuse or bother going to HR - 7 out of 10 people who report bullying to HR lose their job. And I know this firsthand, having had it recently happen to me. HR is there to protect the company, not the employee, and once it's been determined you're no longer drinking the Kool-Aid and being a good little employee, they will find a way to eliminate you.

Best bet: cut your losses and move on just as soon as you can. Don't wait until you go into a major depression as I did - that's how I found this board!
While I agree with looking for a different job, she would be better served to document for her own sake, if not to get HR's help. Yes, HR is there to protect the company and not the employee but in the cases where they try to find a reason to terminate someone, having documentation can help a person receive unemployment.
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Old Apr 20, 2014, 04:46 AM
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Yeah... . They add two people instead of one. Would have been much cheaper to keep you and add or transition a second to train therefore giving you management/training experience.

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In those situations, I was doing direct care work and I'd end up with the most difficult or involved clients to care. I was so exhausted week after week and then they wondered why I wouldn't go back to work for them the following year. Imagine having to take care of someone for hours at work who spits, attacks you physically, screams, and then you get to chase them to keep an eye on them...I don't ever want to go back to those days.
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I am so frustrated with things at work. I'm starting to procrastinate heavily because I'm emotionally stuck on situations at work that I find hard to tolerate. First I get a review that is great, but then they give me a pay raise that I found low in a very abrupt way, and I have to keep asking for details and only get little bits at a time (do I get sick leave/vacation? .. yes. .... ok, now how much?) On top of that, since they fired a bunch of people, my supervisor who sets up contracts is now pulled in so many directions that he's not taking care of the necessary details, and now it's falling on me because I'm the one that deals with clients. Everything is being done half-***, and all my attempts to fix that are stonewalled. I ask for a price list for are services because I'm supposed to bring in new clients and that is the first thing they ask... and I STILL do not have one, despite asking upwards of 10 times over the last 2 months, and never getting a straight answer. I'm at the point where I'm just going to start making prices up myself, which being paid 14/hr and not in any sort of authoritative role, I don't think I should be doing... but they seem to want me to.

I'm working on a project that goes against my values because one of our clients is cheap and just wants to make money with snake oil, and I'm supposed to support him in that. That drags our company's reputation down, imo, but despite my protests I have to do it anyway because that is what the supervisor wants.

We have another client that is constantly pestering me for answers about a project we did for him, but I have no answers because it's not my call. I try to get my supervisor to sit down with me and tell me what's going on, help me develop a schedule for all these projects he's got me into, but it's like trying to hold onto an oiled pig!

I asked for a day off for mother's day weekend, and never heard back. Now he says, nochalantly, that he's out of town then meaning no one can cover for me, so I can't go anywhere. Of course I have to figure this out myself because no one gets back to me.

Equipment is breaking, but nothing is being done about it. I am frustrated because I wish I new more about electronics so I could just do everything myself. I wish I had a company card so I could just buy all the parts myself. I'm buying stuff we need with my own money. I don't know if I need to just take the bull by the horns myself or let my supervisor deal with the fallout. I just want this company to be better than it's being right now.
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Hard lesson to be sure. You can't sol their problems for them. I used to try things like that... Knowing that they need it. The reality is they will do it when they are ready and no sooner. More than twice I got impatient and left and a short time later they start implementing exactly the things I want them to. They didn't steal my ideas. It was just timing and companies plain work slower than I would prefer.

My advise would be to figure out how to let it go. When you need to ask something like information for a client send it in an email so to is documented. The client that wants information? Send and email and verbally ask your boss if you can refer them to him since you don't have the info. Then do it.

When you are working with a client don't look at it as supporting their ethics. You are supporting your company not the client. You just need to do what the client asks within reason and let go of the rest. If the ethics are intolerable your only real choices are to bear it or leave.

Please don't spend your hard earned money on their stuff. It isn't worth it. If you can't do your job without it tell your boss you have a "blocking issue. Please advise". I find that usually gets their attention. He may use the same wording with his boss. Every time something like that happens use the same wording. It's sort of like a DBT technique. Ask and repeat. This way you aren't letting your supervisor take the fall. You are communicating the problem and letting him decide what to do. All of it needs to be in email or backed up in email.

Another option is to leave on good terms. If they get the message you can go back. Until then I suggest finding something outside of work to give yourself something to focus on.

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Hard lesson to be sure. You can't sol their problems for them. I used to try things like that... Knowing that they need it. The reality is they will do it when they are ready and no sooner. More than twice I got impatient and left and a short time later they start implementing exactly the things I want them to. They didn't steal my ideas. It was just timing and companies plain work slower than I would prefer.

My advise would be to figure out how to let it go. When you need to ask something like information for a client send it in an email so to is documented. The client that wants information? Send and email and verbally ask your boss if you can refer them to him since you don't have the info. Then do it.

When you are working with a client don't look at it as supporting their ethics. You are supporting your company not the client. You just need to do what the client asks within reason and let go of the rest. If the ethics are intolerable your only real choices are to bear it or leave.

Please don't spend your hard earned money on their stuff. It isn't worth it. If you can't do your job without it tell your boss you have a "blocking issue. Please advise". I find that usually gets their attention. He may use the same wording with his boss. Every time something like that happens use the same wording. It's sort of like a DBT technique. Ask and repeat. This way you aren't letting your supervisor take the fall. You are communicating the problem and letting him decide what to do. All of it needs to be in email or backed up in email.

Another option is to leave on good terms. If they get the message you can go back. Until then I suggest finding something outside of work to give yourself something to focus on.

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Thank you, I was not expecting anyone to take the time to give advice on all that but I am happy you did! I've been trying to let it go but it's hard. I do need to figure a better way to deal with feelings of frustration in this situation. You are right for everything.

Something outside of work to focus on... This is what art is for, right?
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Hah hah! Yes it is! It's almost summer. Sign up for some classes and learn something new!

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People trying to bring you down because of your success. I got a promotion awhile back, and ever since a girl who is/was? a friend who also applied for it has been trying to cause me problems. I don't know if she is consciously doing it, but I see it as does my boss and others in management. It started with not fulfilling her job duties and recently became more personal when she interfered with my romantic relationship. After that happened she gossiped about it and got in major trouble, and was forced to apologize. She claims to want to be my friend and his friend even if she thinks she might have feelings, but still only tries to talk to him. I have to trust him in all this which has been kind of hell. Working through it and can't wait till me and him transfer shifts.
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I'm frustrated by being bored nearly to tears lately at work. I realize it could be much worse, and am waiting for a busier season. I'm really just looking for more of a challenge, and a better paying "real" job. One of these days.....
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Old May 12, 2014, 02:53 PM
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I love my job but am thinking of quitting because of a coworker. She's a bully...it's like high school and the boss won't do anything. I having a really hard time in my life lately and this only makes it worse. I have dreamed about doing something bad to her, but I wouldn't because I wouldn't want to get into trouble. What ever happened to "sisterhood"? I sound like a kid don't I? But I'm not...I'm nearly 60....pain is pain no matter how young or how old.
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I had a horrible day today. It was a work day for me, and after about half an hour, my anxiety started spinning out of control. I couldn't think straight and started thinking in terms of "if I can't even be out somewhere for a few hours, what is the point?" Ruff thoughts. Ruff day. Just want to pull the hole in on top of me. How pathetic when I can't even cope with the most mundane things like ordinary life.
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Old May 28, 2014, 12:51 PM
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Just to put a question out there--

Has it been possible for anyone to let things go at work? To realize you don't have control and let bygones be bygones?

I wonder about that a lot. I'll need to get a job soon and I don't want to take on the stress I used to. But, if certain things at work prevent ME from being able to work, I'll get frustrated and stressed. If things happen I don't have control over and don't really affect me too much, I think I could manage. How often does that happen, really?
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