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Old Oct 16, 2014, 09:32 AM
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Ripose, I wish you well and hope the AA and NA principles help. Like I said, I apply them to everything. They help my thinking and my emotions and help me behave like a far more reasonable person.

About 12 years ago, I was hit was a dreadful medical diagnosis. I was asymptomatic, but tested after several family members died suddenly. I could survive if I did a radical turnaround of everything in my life to take pressure off an organ system that didn't work right. The first symptom of this problem was usually sudden death. That's what I was facing and I felt fine. I was in a state of shock, but not denial. I decided to live.

Using AA, I did the turnaround and I've stuck with it. It required abstinence from many normal things -- foods, beverages, OTC medications (no tylenol, no aspirin, no NSAIDs). Tests show that I am now just fine. If I fall off my strict regimen, things go south really fast. So eventhough I'm not an alcoholic or drug addict, I'm living the AA program every day. It has worked for me. It can work for you, too. Not easy. But it works if you work it.

If a person has even 10% of their liver functioning, they can make it.

I wish you and your wife many more good years together.
Thanks for this!
Ripose

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Old Oct 16, 2014, 10:30 AM
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The liver is one of the few organs that does regenerate so that is good. You have to stop damaging it though because it reaches a point of no return.
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Old Oct 16, 2014, 10:33 AM
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Ripose, I feel alarmed for you. That much tylenol and the human liver just don't make a good combination ... but you already know that.

SplitImage's suggestion about dialectical behavior therapy is a good one. Your pdoc can probably refer you to a source in your area. It helps people deal with feelings of low-self worth, as well as self-harm. What you're doing sounds like self-harm, compulsive behavior and a true addiction. Purists would disagree because tylenol is not considered an addictive substance, but you need large amounts and you when you try to quit or cut back you last about three days, which sounds a lot like a typical withdrawal pattern..

I'm not an alcoholic or drug addict, but I've used the fellowship and principles of AA to deal with every major life challenge I've ever had.

I suggest you get a copy of Alcoholic Anonymous -- the Big Book -- and begin reading it, substituting the word tylenol for alcohol. It doesn't matter what substance we're using, AA can help.

Some people object that AA is religious. I am not only not religious, I'm not a believer. It doesn't make any difference. I know there is something bigger and more powerful than me in the universe and it's the laws of nature. If you keep abusing your body, the laws of nature will catch up with you.

Maybe tylenol is just a symptom of a larger problem, maybe your MI, but right now tylenol is making your life unmanageable. You're allowing it to control you and if you keep going it will destroy you and whatever relationships you hold dear.

I know it's an unusual suggestion, but I'm pretty sure AA can help a tylenolic, too. AA is also full of other very nice people who have felt like outsiders, with low-self worth and just plain weird. The weird part doesn't matter one bit.

I wish you well.
That is interesting. I have been a member of AA for a long time and have never known anyone who is not an addict or alcoholic to be a member. I have nothing against that at all. I have always believed that the principles of AA or NA could help anyone. Universal truths are universal truths. AA didn't invent them.
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The "paradox" is only a conflict between reality and your feeling of what reality "ought to be." -- Richard Feynman

Major Depressive Disorder
Anxiety Disorder with some paranoid delusions thrown in for fun.
Recovering Alcoholic and Addict
Possibly on low end of bi polar spectrum...trying to decide.

Male, 50

Fetzima 80mg
Lamictal 100mg
Remeron 30mg for sleep
Klonopin .5mg twice a day, cutting this back
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