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Jun 12, 2016, 08:12 AM
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I'm posting this in a couple of forums, because I don't really know where to put it, so forgive me if its been read already:
This is my second post about this thing, it's gotten completely out of control since my first. To be brief, my wife has a pretty bad prescription drug problem, which has brought her into full blown amphetimene-related psychosis. I've known for years that she'd been snorting her Adderall, called her out on it a few times & always met with excuses & denial. She used to manifest with extreme mood swings, violence, paranoia, etc., especially when questioned about her drug use. About a year ago, she started seeing bugs that when presented to me & others only seem to be pieces of lint, fiber, plant material, sometimes even plastic. Of course when she's called out on that, she gets very scared & defensive (who wouldn't), so it's usually best to try & help keep things clean, etc., so as not to be open to any type of 'infestation'. She went to her doc and he put her on a starter dose of Seroquel - meaning that he's acknowledged that there's a problem - and it helped for awhile. Then it came back & got worse. She went back to the doctor & he upped her Seroquel - meaning that he ONCE AGAIN acknowledged that there's a problem. But MY problem is this, and it's pretty heavy: He's prescribing her a REALLY high dose of instant-release Adderall - 20mg, three times per day, which is for fatigue symptoms. Not narcolepsy, and not ADD. This dose is the highest recommended for either of these disorders, both of which she's not affected by. Now: my wife is a long term drug user, and she's traded sex for drugs in the past, so let's just leave it at that it's not outside of her morals to do so. I'm suspecting that's what's going on with this psych doctor. I certainly don't want to falsely accuse someone of something this heavy, and believe me I really want to be wrong about it. I mentioned it to my therapist, who knows the doc professionally, and he looked taken aback, but took it very seriously as if he weren't surprised by the allegation. What I'd like to do is to have the guy investigated, but I don't want it to destroy his career if it turns out to be false. Also, I want to file the report anonymously because I certainly don't want it coming back to me. At very least the guy's prescribed my wife a drug that's destroying her brain and making her life a living hell, and I can't see how he's failing to "connect the dots" between the delusions and the excessive amount of amphetemines she's taking. At first I thought she was lapsing into full blown schizoaffective disorder, and I'm kinda not sure that she isn't -- she's pretty far gone. Everyone around me is telling me to tell her doc about her behavior and how she's snorting her meds & hiding it, et al., but my only response is that I don't trust the guy & I leave it at that. Because I think he knows what's what with her abuse. There's really no way he couldn't. All you have to do is talk to her for a few minutes & you can pick it out by the incessant sniffing, nose-blowing, and elevated speech patterns. And her pupils are typically very large & "crazy" looking. When I've called her out in the past, she's turned tables on me & has had me hospitalized, as I have a personality disorder & she's really good at making it look like I'm the problem. So none of this will likely bode well for me if I decide to take action -- it'll look like I'm the one who's delusional, and I'll just kick up a big ****-storm that I really don't need. I really need advice. Luciferaugustus is online now Report Post |
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Jun 12, 2016, 04:30 PM
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Hello Luciferaugustus: Unfortunately, I don't know as I have much of anything to offer in the way of advice here. I'm not knowledgeable with regard to the various med's you mention in your post.
If your wife were amenable, I would think the thing to do would be to get a second opinion either by visiting another psychiatrist privately or by having your wife hospitalized for a period of time. However, from what you wrote, I have the impression your wife is pretty-much in denial & even potentially aggressive in the sense she would be willing to take steps to in some way have you hospitalized. From what you wrote, it sounds to me as though this doctor is at best disinterested if not downright negligent. On the other hand, it sounds as though your wife is also pretty good at getting what she wants. So it's difficult to say what's actually going on here. As far as the idea of reporting this pdoc is concerned, I wonder if there is a mental health organization in your state you could contact (anonymously) in order to discuss the situation & gain some additional perspective & insight. If it were me, I think the first thing I'd do is to try making some calls to a few different mental health related organizations, & possibly even state agencies, to try to clarify in my own mind what the best course of action might be. Beyond that I will simply say, from my perspective, we each ultimately must take responsibility for ourselves. You cannot force your wife to get the help she needs if she is determined to remain ill & actively fighting you. In the end, the only thing you can do, the one thing you must do, is to take care of yourself... whatever that means in practical terms. No good will ensue from you being dragged down along with your wife. If you don't know, or can't make a decision, with regard to what you need to do this is where individual therapy for yourself comes in. I wish you well... 
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Jun 12, 2016, 08:25 PM
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Hi! So, I can totally relate to your situation. I was also a long time adder all abuser...there were days I would take up to 300mg, and I'm not kidding. Sadly, I did something I never thought I would do, and tried methamphetamine several months back, and now I don't even mess with adderAll. I was like your wife and knew what to say to the doctors to get them to prescribe me what I wanted. If your wife's doctor was truly acknowledging there was a problem, he would be reducing the amount of adderall he was prescribing instead of loading her up on sleeping pills now. Infact, most doctors won't prescribe more than 30mg a day. Your wife has found her a doctor that isn't practicing medicine morally or legally. I hate to say this but I wonder what hes getting out of this because it seems that a doctor who knows what he's doing would clearly see she's drug seeking and abusing..
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Jun 13, 2016, 10:50 AM
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The highest dose most doctor will prescribe for Adderall is a total of 60 mg per day
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Jun 15, 2016, 12:26 AM
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Yeah, I think I mentioned that I spoke to my therapist, who knows the other doctor professionally about it, and other than being taken aback regarding her prescribed daily dose he didn't bat an eyelash in surprise. I'm pretty sure he's going to pursue it further. I also had to tell my own psychiatrist that I was short pills this month & why, and we did all the pre-authorization work to switch me to Vyvanse. My wife asked me about that & I read off an account written by a dude on a drugs forum expressing his disappointment in not being able to get around the time-release effect of the drug when abusing it. I told her my doc asked me to research it. |
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Jun 16, 2016, 01:01 AM
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Jun 17, 2016, 02:10 PM
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Nah, the highest dose a doc will prescribe is 60mg per day. I was on that dose for quite awhile, and it turned me into a horrible nasty person. 30mg is simply the highest single pill dosage, so likely it may have been an insurance issue for Ohio. I've also taken IR to supplement 30mg single daily dose -- that said, there's no NEED to take anything more than 30mg.
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Jun 17, 2016, 02:13 PM
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(Unless you're maybe narcoleptic.)
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Jun 18, 2016, 03:15 PM
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Well, not for anything at all, but the Vyvanse is a wonderdrug. I don't even feel like I have ADD. Filled the Adderall script for a backup, because the insurance coverage is tricky, but I also have to say that it really opened my eyes to what I'm kinda seeing as sanctioned drug pushing. Really sucks that keeping one's head together has to come with so much damn baggage. I posted this in another thread & a person told me to no matter what, not give up on my wife. I won't.
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Jun 20, 2016, 10:05 PM
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Oh I forgot, also my wife's prescribed 60mg. That's excessive enough to begin with.
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Jun 20, 2016, 10:46 PM
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Hi! It could be that your wife's doc is negligent or somewhat of a quack?? Have you researched him? Googled him to find patient reviews? Maybe he is a good doc but she is manipulating him and he doesn't know she abusing her Adderal?? I am from Atlanta, my doc that I used to go to get my Xanax, suboxone, and adderal was recently arrested for running a pill mill. He would give addicts pills, he didn't care. Apparently there are a lot of doctors that are blurring the lines between what's right and wrong in order to turn a profit. My advice would be to do some research on this doctor. I was not surprised at all when my old doc was arrested.
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