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Old Oct 24, 2019, 03:35 PM
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Bizarre things happen.. there's glitches and bugs that people don't notice.. you can take things with you.. ideas happen from dream like states..

Does it matter? You can use reality to change peoples thoughts to lure them in and people do it all the time but what if apathy is involved? There's certain elements outside the boredom that I'm interested in.. Not some play .... I've always hated puppets.. They pissed me off as a kid.

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Old Oct 24, 2019, 03:41 PM
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The molecules in your brain is like a fish tank. Floating. Zap zap zap MISFIRE? That's what happens to me.

But some misfires are the zaps in the people if they get into your mind.

We are all that we meet. But what about you?

I'm sorry. I'm lacking sleep. I misunderstand the shadows. But the shadow people have always been my friends.
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Old Oct 24, 2019, 03:45 PM
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It's like the theme of a western movie basically

Cuz in an unrelated note, I just look at tv and i see people talking about stupid stuff.. about trump.. and then there's people watching it.. vegetating.. I just take a glance and say hoollyy faaak.. why?

And the people wearing certain jeans and talking about it for half an hour?

That's how you feel about certain things in the theme. The theme is all that matters.

Yet you take everything into consideration and there's things that you have to ignore. The right things. And that's what matters.
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Old Oct 24, 2019, 04:08 PM
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What is love?
Books are written on it, songs, movies, people showing it to each other...

The meaning is to be explained..

But people trick and use
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Old Oct 25, 2019, 04:01 PM
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Old Oct 25, 2019, 05:26 PM
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There's people that aren't sociopaths and I think they are bad people. Those are the real people that **** me up. With their judgements and blind assumptions after just meeting me and thinking they're better me.

Stupid people is what I'm talking about.

At least sociopaths fake it but they're faking it so much that they kind of believe it if they know me.
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Old Oct 25, 2019, 07:09 PM
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"Though we judge for many reasons, we often do it when:

We don’t know a person well (yet)
We cannot identify with a person’s belief system, values, or behavior
That person somehow threatens how we perceive ourselves"

"But what we can learn is that our judgments mostly have to do with us, not the people we judge, and the same is true when others judge us.

In most cases, we judge others in order to feel better about ourselves, because we are lacking self-acceptance and self-love."

"If we could learn to embrace ourselves as we truly are, would we still be so judgmental toward others? Most likely not. We would no longer need a reason to put someone else down just to raise ourselves up.

This is only one of the many reasons why self-love is so important and powerful. If we could all learn to love ourselves, we would make our world a much more compassionate and much less judgmental place."

OK ok I get it now. But you socio's get that idk.. You guys love yourself and I did before that person judged me and made up crap about me.

I know a woman that has really low self esteem and she judges everyone. I always said that I don't judge much cuz I love me. But that person ****ed me up but I get it...
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Old Oct 25, 2019, 07:18 PM
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Do you really think being an egocentric asshole is the same thing as self-love?
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Old Oct 25, 2019, 07:20 PM
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Lol what kind of drugs are you using?
Asking for a friend. 😏
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Old Oct 25, 2019, 07:38 PM
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What is love?
Baby don't hurt me 🎶
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Old Oct 26, 2019, 02:11 AM
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Lol what kind of drugs are you using?
Asking for a friend. 😏
Oh god everything.. no jk ..

It used to be everything. But phenibut makes me manic and then the withdrawal makes me manic so I take a little bit to go to sleep so now I sleep.

I wrote a bunch of psychedelic stuff after I cried and then I cried again. Now I feel sleepish.

But I post about it in the addictions forum.. to taper off of it.. It's my last drug out of;

phenibut, gabapentin, pregabalin, diclazepam, nifoxipam, lorazepam, alprazolam, etizolam, flubromazepam, clonazepam, zopiclone, ketamine, deschloroketamine, dextromethorphan, methoxephenidine, methylphenidate, 4-methylmethylphenidate, 3,4-dichloromethylphenidate, 4-fluoromethylphenidate, ethylphenidate, cocaine, crack cocaine, methamphetamine, 4-fluoroamphetamine, dichloropane, 3-fluorophenmetrazine, Adderall, Vyvanse, caffeine, nicotine, ephedrine, a-PVP, 6-APB, 5-APB, MDMA, Marijuana, Psilocybin, 5-MeO-MiPT, DMT, Allylescaline, 1P-LSD, Mebroqualone, Armodafinil, Alcohol, diphenhydramine, hydromorphone, oxycodone, codeine, U-47700, kratom, heroin, etc..

But hopefully will be my last. Apart from nicotine. I like nicotine.
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Old Oct 26, 2019, 02:14 AM
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I'm a complicated human and people judge me but a lot of people think I'm great.

I like to lift people up and not put them down. That's just what I do.
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Old Oct 26, 2019, 02:17 AM
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Do you really think being an egocentric asshole is the same thing as self-love?
No D: It's about r-e-a-l-i-t-y

Reality is a fun word to mean "Idek what even... what? is it *this apple*? my hand? idk.."
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Old Oct 26, 2019, 02:35 AM
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I'm sorry for all the bad assumptions I said about you people.

I just get scared =]

My step dad was a narcissist. He beat my mom. I forgive him.. he will one day realize that he's alone and his daughter doesn't talk to him, he has to work as a heavy duty mechanic until he's 50. He's 45 now and will die cuz he can't quit cigarettes from stress. He will be too weak to lift things. Everyone will find out that he's been manipulating them.

But I'm not talking about narcissists. SOCIOS. Psychos are people too.

Idk if ye want to be "normal" but no one is. We're all ****ed up and soon will die and wake up, unplug the wires from our brains and someone will tell you that you have completed stage 4 of the simulation, to walk out of the metal building and see the birds flying, walk into the park in the galactic city where killing people is legal and once the joker finds you, you know he's still your friend but wants to kill you and he never will.

Then you'll wake up and find out that it was just a dream.
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Old Oct 28, 2019, 05:31 PM
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I don’t much like narcissists myself though I like to play one online because then the actual narcissists who want to be “psychopaths” (why? I don’t get it.) always think they can fool me and I know I’m not the only person with ASPD who’s used this extremely simple trick. Reverse psychology, it works like a charm. They all say the exact same ****, they’re all “oh so terrifying but oh so unique/special psychopaths that do such dark psychopath things and no one understands. WOE IS ME!”
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Old Oct 29, 2019, 01:58 PM
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I liked watching Dexter. IRL though, I think I get scared because I have PTSD and DID.

I once had a female friend who claimed that she was diagnosed with psychopathy. She originally had been diagnosed with avoidant pd. She was at a church we both attended for a few years as friends. We were both like outcasts for different reasons. She got upset at the female pastor, so then she threw the pastor's computer monitor down and smashed it to pieces.

She later showed me a picture she drew of a bat hitting her mother's head.

She was in therapy for years, until one day her therapist terminated her, but not before the therapist called the police and had the police warn her neighbor that she was a danger to them. She was evicted.

She then went to an attachment treatment center that helped her embrace her strengths as a psychopath, according to her.

I attentively listened to her, but I had to end our friendship after she drove both of us through a monsoon for the sake of thrill-seeking. She laughed at my terror and saw my PTSD as weak, but she felt proud for her own bravery and strengths.

Ironically, she still attends church, but not the same one where she broke the pastor's computer monitor.

I do not mean to judge, but I needed to distance myself in order to feel safe from her. I do think she has some incredible strengths and courage, though her anger does become criminal.

And this was all when she was 50 years old! She looked great for her age. Slim build, average height.

She reminded me of a female Dexter, only, with a temper.

I hope I did not offend anyone here. I know that everyone deals with their own issues differently. I just thought I would share because I can relate to the sensationalism of mental illness, due to my having DID. I cannot attribute psychopathy, sociopathy, or ASPD to Dexter, because I would not want my DID to be attributed to Sybil, United States of Terror, or Split, among others. Do I like those shows? Sometimes, when I am not having PTSD symptoms. But it sucks when people generalize. Anyway, I thought I would share my thoughts.
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She was in therapy for years,
Willingly? What was she trying to change?

I think Dexter would've been much more fun to watch if the show portrayed him as a proper psychopath.
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Willingly? What was she trying to change?

I think Dexter would've been much more fun to watch if the show portrayed him as a proper psychopath.
Yes, willingly. I think she just needed validation for being a good person. She also dealt with constant thoughts of revenge.
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Yes, willingly. I think she just needed validation for being a good person. She also dealt with constant thoughts of revenge.
Well, obviously she wasn't.

Maybe she just wanted an explanation.
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Old Oct 29, 2019, 09:18 PM
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Well, obviously she wasn't.

Maybe she just wanted an explanation.
She is trying to be a good person. I try not to categorize people as good or bad though, but I fail at that sometimes. What I'm striving for is seeing the behavior as good or bad, but not the person themselves.

I cared about her, but she did scare me. If I didn't have PTSD, I could probably still be her friend, but with more boundaries intact. With PTSD though, I just couldn't. It's not a reflection on her per se, but rather her unresolved issues that she may or may not be willing to address in treatment.

I will say that she seemed happy when I last saw her a few years ago. She had all these projects going on (she's an artist), but she does get emotional - tears mixed with rage. I felt really bad for her years ago when she was going through a rough time at the church we all attended. The church wasn't the healthiest for certain people with mental illnesses or social stigmas, so we left. I was her friend for a few years before I moved out of state. I visited her a few years ago, after spending nearly a decade conversing with her online. My relationship with her ended about 2 years ago.
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Old Oct 30, 2019, 04:28 PM
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Hey there demons. It's me, ya boy!

No jk.. but yknow people who I am really afraid of? People with BPD with a high IQ. They cause death indirectly by making people commit suicide or lose their money etc..

They need real high dose shroom.

And yes I find it weird how people claim to be sociopath.. remember, as I said.. modesty is important. You can't just walk around and put a label on yourself and say "Look at me. I think I am great. I show you how great I am".

Cuz theres always people that judge.. one sec.. here's something I wrote.. (Cuz narcissists were saying I'm lost and will end up as a serial killer.. and that I'm asexual because I hate women cuz my mom with breast cancer is a *****..along with many many other things they said to me like I'll kill someone if I stop my meds.. I show them love after and now they feel stupid..)

"When you feel happy but something is really wrong
And you can’t feel sad because then you have to let it all go
But you can’t and all the thoughts bother you every day
All of the things that people have been saying
Often the good doesn’t outweigh the bad
Because you believe in all of the lies
And just want to be free
When you want to tell someone how you feel
But you don’t want to make a big deal of it
So it’s all kept locked inside of your head
To suffer in silence and try to not end up dead
Depression sometimes can evolve into this many years later
Or it’s just a matter of what can happen sometimes
To anyone"

I hope you all have a good day today.
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Old Nov 02, 2019, 10:00 AM
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I do want to say that, although I'm not a sociopath, I am afraid of expressing negative emotions (even though I do feel them). For that reason, I've admired the ways in which those with psychopathy, sociopathy, and/or ASPD are able to control their emotions and/or not feel them. There are times when I wish I had those abilities, and to think purely logical, be perfectly stoic. Call me ignorant, because I'm not really sure what people with psychopathy, sociopathy, or ASPD go through or think about, such as whether or not they are in "distress," even if it comes out differently than other people with different disorders or no disorder at all.

I was wondering if it was okay to ask that here, or at least ask if you all like sociopaths for similar reasons.
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Old Nov 02, 2019, 10:36 AM
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I was involved with a psychopath. I was aware of who he was. I was aware of his history. I completely accepted him knowing that his brain is wired differently.

In spite of this all, it blew up in my face. I call people who are attracted to psychopaths "fan girls or fan boys". I can see why it looks sexy, but being attracted to a mental illness instead of a person is not super healthy.

Statistically only a small portion of the population are psychopaths. The odds of finding one are not in your favor. I am not saying the relationship isn't worth it and I am not saying it can't be done.

Psychopathy is a sliding scale. Perhaps you find someone and you click, great. Ideally you are completely aware and not living in a dream world. To seek them out though I find peculiar. Why seek someone with a mental illness when not all present the same?
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For that reason, I've admired the ways in which those with psychopathy, sociopathy, and/or ASPD are able to control their emotions and/or not feel them. There are times when I wish I had those abilities, and to think purely logical, be perfectly stoic. Call me ignorant, because I'm not really sure what people with psychopathy, sociopathy, or ASPD go through or think about, such as whether or not they are in "distress," even if it comes out differently than other people with different disorders or no disorder at all.

I was wondering if it was okay to ask that here, or at least ask if you all like sociopaths for similar reasons.[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT]
A note on psychopath/sociopathy/ASPD. They're all under the same umbrella and appear similar in behavior, but they have distinguishing features. For the purposes of this conversation, you're talking about primary psychopaths, who have a diminished capacity for experiencing emotions, particularly complex emotions.

Anyway, you're correct that psychopaths process information, even emotional information, with logic. When I'm in a conversation with someone and they appear sad or distressed, I can read their body language and react somewhat appropriately, but I don't connect with them emotionally. I'm basically making a logical deduction about their emotional state, and I'm able to give purely logical responses because it doesn't affect me emotionally.

Psychopaths are also a lot more resilient to stress and trauma than the average person, but they can still get butthurt over things that happen to them.

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Why seek someone with a mental illness when not all present the same?
I don't know about the OP's intentions. I would like to find psychopaths because I'm not sure I could handle close companionship with a nonpsychopath. You've all got too many emotions, and I don't know how to handle them all.
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