[greysfan]

I know I've been a danger to others in the past, I know this was swept under the carpet. I know that was a long time ago and it's just been verbal stuff as of late...I know I avoid social interaction for this reason in case of ''going off on one''. I know the anger scares me too. I've had violent thoughts about being violent in the CMHT...I know these were dismissed by Social Worker who said she doesn't think I would harm anyone. Dumbest quote I've heard...who's to say who will do what?!

I read about that Holmes guy, I read about how he had tried to contact his Psychiatrist 9 minutes before the shooting, had sent a notebook to his college Professor with violent imagery of a massacre, had sent texts to college peers asking about dsyphoric mania (bi polar), stated that he was bad news, I believe his Psychiatrist had even contacted that University Psych Team or something along those lines but then he dropped out of Uni and they had no jurisdiction to supervise him. I can't help feel that this guy, as messed up as he clearly is, was desperately trying to call out for help.

I worry that it's the ''isolated'' types who tend to be murderers, who tend to alienate themselves for whatever reason and then find it hard to ''come back'' and be on a normal level with people. This Holmes guy was described as painfully shy, socially awkward but highly intelligent.

I worry that there's maybe this need to do something before someone will listen. I think it is so sad how the authorities have clearly failed this guy - if he was sectioned it wouldn't have solved everything, but it would have been a temporary measure. Instead the only solution is to alienate him further.

[BlueInanna]

i don't have much to say about the holmes guy. feels like a trigger for me for where i'm at in my head today. not your fault or anyones, jsut i'm not in a great mood, having some anxiety. so i'll stay away from that topic, but wanted to try to give you a reply and some support.

i hope you're not feeling like that again now. your social worker should have taken you more seriously in the past, for sure. but they are only human too, they dont always do the right thing or know what the right thing to do is. sometimes they hospitalize people prematurely. you have to be your own advocate, you know? if you get to feeling that way, don't leave her freakin office until she understands you dont' feel safe.

[Anneinside]

I once had a therapist who laughed and said that my plan for suicide wasn't viable because I wouldn't be able to get hold of what I needed. I immediately went to get the item I needed and with a little lie I was able to get it. I went home and tried it, failing of course but it was close. His laughter certainly pushed me into try sooner than I may have. I stopped seeing him soon after that.

[Miswimmy1]

I think that it was such a sad event that probably could have been prevented... I wish that everyone had the access to great care and be able to work through their issues... This man was obviously emotionally in trouble. And it's sad that no one caught it and offered him assistance.

[Moose72]

My old T admonished me that my homicidal thoughts are now in my file since I said something to per about it. Ummm.... Where else would one express these things and is this yet another way to keep people from expressing these thoughts.

[Anneinside]

Originally Posted by Moose72

My old T admonished me that my homicidal thoughts are now in my file since I said something to per about it. Ummm.... Where else would one express these things and is this yet another way to keep people from expressing these thoughts.

Maybe he thought having it on your record was some kind of protection for him or a deterient to you actually hurting someone... a threat of some kind. You should know that if you threaten to hurt or kill someone or you are seriously suicidal they are obligated to "turn you in" for treatment.

[Anneinside]

Oh, and they are obligated to notify the person being threatened in most states.

[snugglebeary]

I had a doctor who didn't take me serious at all. I stopped going to him since he said I was faking being suicidal, but continued to give me more medicine. The doctors don't know what all goes through our minds. We can tell them, but it depends on the doctor to listen. I've been doing okay without meds, but once I have another severe manic episode, I'm going to go to a much better doctor than the last.

[Moose72]

Originally Posted by Anneinside

Oh, and they are obligated to notify the person being threatened in most states.

They didn't do that in my case.

[Victoria'smom]

My T tells me that only I know when I'm a threat to myself or others. That's when to use the crisis center. That she trusts me to use it if needed. I've said some pretty messed up things, but she doesn't seem concerned so I'm not. However, if I'm not thinking properly how would I know that I wasn't safe to myself or others? I guess T trusts my husband to be my logic. I kinda feel that my size and sex play a role in it. When my husband (6'4", 330 lbs) says anything that can remotely be taken as worrisome it's a huge deal.

[cocoabeans]

Originally, I was going to tell you off for having sympathy for that piece of **** but, I won't.