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Introducing the Coming Off Psychiatric Meds website
This website aims to give you up to date information about psychiatric medication, how it functions and the withdrawal process. It is put together by people who have been prescribed medication and withdrawn from it, and clinicians who have been involved in supporting this process. If we have a period of distress or confusion and receive medical help we are generally given a diagnosis and prescribed psychiatric drugs. Research suggests doctors tend to know more about putting people on medication than the actual withdrawal process. It is important therefore to disseminate information about the ‘coming off’ process. As well as the information available here we particularly recommend the excellent Icarus Project free publication: 'Harm Reduction Guide To Coming Off Psychiatric Drugs'. Distress or confusion tends to be episodic in nature. Once an episode has passed or if the psychiatric drug is not helping we may wish to stop taking the drug. If we want to reduce or stop our dependence on psychiatric medication, it is important to develop other ways of balancing mood and dealing with difficult mind states. It is also important to develop a support network around you that will support you in this ‘coming off’ process. We recommend where possible people work collaboratively with their prescriber to negotiate the coming off process. Reducing medication can be a difficult process so it is important to prepare well before starting a reduction process. How to use this website If you are considering coming off your psychiatric medications you can find information about your specific medication by looking under the heading ‘your medication’. This will give you information on how the drug interacts with the brain, adverse effects of the drug, any associated withdrawal effects and suggested rates of withdrawal. Under the heading ‘planning’ you will find information about things to consider when planning your withdrawal. The planning of the withdrawal is very important weask you to consider questions such as, is this the right time for you to withdraw, what have you got in place to replace the drugs, who could you turn to for support etc. Therefore, we strongly recommend you go through the ‘planning your withdrawal’ pages before commencing your withdrawal. Under the heading 'alternatives' are stories of how individuals have found other ways (without medication) to manage difficult mind and mood states and where these services/activities can be found/accessed. We strongly recommend individuals find other ways to regulate/support their mental health and start incorporating these into their lifestyle before starting their withdrawal. Under ‘stories’ you will find individuals accounts of withdrawing from psychiatric medications, how they did it, what was useful to them in this process, what were the hurdles and how they were able to overcome these. If you have successfully withdrawn from psychiatric medications yourself and have written an account of this, we would welcome hearing your story. We plan to develop links to useful sites on medications, withdrawal from medications, non-pharmaceutical ways to manage distress and difficult mind states and other useful organisations. If you have contributions or ideas of how to improve the web-site please contact us. Who are we? The contributors to the Coming Off Psychiatric Medication web-site include mental health professionals and people who have used mental health services and their relatives. The contributers include (Dr.) Rufus May, who works as a Clinical Psychologist and Adam Jhugroo who works as a Psychiatric Nurse. Professor Phil Thomas of University of Central Lancashire and formerly worked as a consultant psychiatrist, is among the advisors to the Coming off Psychiatric Medication web-site. The website is reccommended by the Department of Health publication: More: Coming Off Psychiatric Medication - Introducing the Coming Off Psychiatric Meds website |
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Harm Reduction Guide to
Coming Off Psychiatric Drugs Published by The Icarus Project and Freedom Center Second Edition, revised and expanded. Link: http://www.theicarusproject.net/down...e2Edonline.pdf |
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Mania as spiritual emergency (another recovery story)
JULY 26, 2007 BY MONICA CASSANI I got turned on to a really cool youtube video series from Jayme at Rayne’s World. It’s a man telling his story of a “mania” that he interpreted as a spiritual emergency–treated it as such and recovered. I had a very similar story at the onset, but got sucked into psychiatry which he avoided. That made for radically different lives. I’m only now extracting myself from the ********. The only thing I want to caution you about with this video series is that he suggests people come off their meds. This may be a fine idea–but do it slowly and cautiously–you don’t have to go back into crisis like he suggests. I know of hundreds of people who withdraw safely and slowly and do not return to full-blown crisis, especially if supported with diet and nutrition. I am, like I’ve said, experiencing a ton of emotions and the budding of spirituality, but I’m not losing it and I don’t expect to. Caution and support is what is needed. More: Mania as spiritual emergency (another recovery story) – Beyond Meds |
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i remember stopping my meds cold turkey two years ago. i was taking them for 2 years straight. i was on 4 meds and heavy hundreds of milligrams of antipsychotics and i just stopped one day.
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Focusing our attention can change the physical structure of our brains. Neuroplasticity: heal your mind/body/spirit
MARCH 9, 2013 BY MONICA CASSANI Focusing our attention can change the physical structure of our brains. Dr. Daniel Siegel explains what is possible when we actively seek to change our brains, thus improving our relationships and stopping self-limiting patterns. We can change how our brain functions. We can change the very structure of the brain. There are enormous implications here for anyone who has ever been labeled with a DSM psychiatric diagnosis. We can change and heal our minds and brains and we need not do it in detrimental fashion with neurotoxic medications. Self-compassion and awareness are the qualities we need to start to heal our mind and body. Bringing mindfulness to a problem is the beginning of change. Paying attention to a process is changing the process! Even before any behavior changes. This is another collection of links I will be placing in the navigation menu above. it will be updated as appropriate. More : Focusing our attention can change the physical structure of our brains. Neuroplasticity: heal your mind/body/spirit – Beyond Meds |
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Reset Your Brain
Marie Pasinski, M.D. Nurture the Miracle of Neuroplasticity If you were stranded in cyberspace with access to only one TEDTalk, I hope it would be Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor's "My Stroke of Insight." Perhaps as a neurologist I am biased, but what could be more important than understanding the potential of your most precious gift, your brain. Dr. Taylor's recovery from her stroke is a testament to the power of neuroplasticity, our brains' remarkable ability to redesign itself. Through the miracle of neuroplasticity you can, as Dr. Taylor inspires us, "step to the right" of your left brain and discover your true essence of joy and peace. Regardless of age, your brain has the ability to make new neurons and construct new neural pathways throughout your life. When you engage in new experiences or think in novel ways, new pathways are forged. Every time you think a specific thought, a specific pathway of neurons fires up, neurotransmitters are released and synapses are subtly altered. With repetition this pathway is strengthened. Even as you read this very sentence, your brain is changing. In this way, your brain's structure is a culmination of all the thoughts and experiences you have had up to this very moment. Exciting research reveals that the way we use our brain and care for our brain can enhance its neuroplasticity. Here are some suggestions: Fine Tune Your Inner Voice -- When Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor's language centers shut down during her stroke, she experienced exquisite joy and peace. Although we cannot similarly switch off our inner voice, we can rewire it through neuroplasticity. Researchers at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston used MRI scans to document before and after changes in the brain's gray matter associated with mindfulness meditation. After eight weeks, the MRI scans revealed an increased density in areas of the brain associated with memory, self-awareness and compassion. More: Marie Pasinski, M.D.: Nurture the Miracle of Neuroplasticity |
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[quote=AeonDM;2897482]Empowerment is Vital to Dialogical Recovery
Daniel Fisher, M.D., Ph.D. - March 9, 2012 This imposition of one person’s reality on another One of his themes seems to be the psychiatric establishment's imposition of their reality on the mentally ill. Well I feel imposed upon by his self-righteous theories. He talks about the importance of dialogue over monologue, but I don't see him engaging in a dialogue with the psychiatric establishment (or whatever you want to call it), I see him dismissing it out of hand. Self-determination is an expression of each person’s voice as unique and important. He seems to negate the fact that a person can have a unique and important voice in their own treatment, whatever that treatment might be, not just what he advocates. He seems to think those who are part of the prevailing paradim of mental illness and treatment are by definition victims of that system and cannot possibly think for themselves, are fatalistic about their recovery, and are helpless in the face of their all-powerful treatment providers. I do believe there are some awful psychiatrists and psychologists out there as well as self-serving pharma companies and for these and other reasons, people can get scr *** ewed by the system. But to paint the profession, patients and prevailing beliefs with such a wide brush is very black and white thinking in my opinion. He seems to have found a hybrid of a victim mentality and self-righteous pull-yourself-up-by-your-bootstraps-mentality. It's an interesting read, but on a personal level I find it insulting. |
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[quote=AeonDM;2908296]The Value of Depression
By Al Galves The conventional wisdom about mental illness is that it is caused by genetic factors, chemical imbalances and brain abnormalities. If you believe that, you have no interest in exploring the meaning of the symptoms or listening to what they may have to tell you. Rather, you are encouraged to get rid of the symptoms as quickly as possible and pay no further attention to them. More black and white thinking as I mentioned in my previous post. No, you can actually do both. Consider the possibility that some of the cause lies in the brain and also be very interested in exploring the psychological meaning behind the symptoms. Addressing both, I think, can aide in recovery. The one does not negate the other. |
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[quote=AeonDM;2910441]Mental illness is a coping mechanism
By Laurie Ahern, From the editor And the same is true with so-called mental illness. If you grow up with depression, suicide, mania and psychosis as role models for coping mechanisms, the more likely you may use these as ways to cope when the need arises. I think these days it is commonly accepted by the psychiatric community that environment can play a very big role in mental illness. For some reason he seems to equate the term 'mental illness' with exclusively genetic and chemical imbalance origins, assuming that the psychiatric community believes these to be the sole causes. I do not think this is the case. I agree that environmental factors play a big role, but not that this negates the existence of 'mental illness.' |
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[quote=AeonDM;2915387]Five Decades of Gene Finding Failures in Psychiatry
Two generations of molecular genetic researchers have attempted, yet failed, to discover the genes that they believe underlie the major psychiatric disorders. This study just came out: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/01/he...ders.html?_r=0 |
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another study full of mays and possibles, it seems. Genetic evidence... any decade now ![]()
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And you know what Dan? If I had to have cancer too and refused treatment, Jordan would be very dissapointed in me and I wouldn't blame her. Nobody is blaming anybody for anything on this thread or board. We are just trying to empower one another, bipolar takes SO much from all of us, I'm sorry but no fkn way is it taking my power too! ![]() Members are quick to say "Bp is an illness like any other physical illness" Well those very people with physical illness make damn sure they get better, or make the best of what life they have left. They (hopefully just like DHX's mom) dont sit back and patiently wait for death, so why is it ok for us to do so? ![]() I'm not saying you are waiting around for death, but you speak about bp with such finality and hopelessness. You seem so caught up in avoiding responsibilty beyond meds that the possibilities before you are invisible and pointless. You are simply not ready, maybe never will be, maybe your life is enough as it is now. And thats ok. It works for you. But please dont rain on our parade, those of us searching for more, that is. Those of us open to possibilities. We are happy when your meds work, instead of feeling blamed for having BP, be happy for us in return. Please.... I'm NOT cured without meds. I'm simply happier and have found contentment in my self-management path as I have finally found my normal. There is alot to be said for contentment ![]() Hope you know there's no malicious intent in my response (((((Dan))))) Last edited by Trippin2.0; Mar 11, 2013 at 10:52 AM. |
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I think even with physical illness you have to have will to live. Cancer will kill you despite top notch treatment if you give up.
Yes, recovery is a choice. I think we all should obsessing with the "not trying hard enough" and "not my fault". Whatever. It will not bring you inner peace, it will not cure you... you can die with "it was not my fault, nobody should say I didn't try hard enough..." but what comfort is there in it? Why are we obsessed with faultlessness? Why are we a society that cannot accept character flaw's in self and others? I am a beyotch that cuts old people in lines and I am scatterbrained, the other person is lazy arse, some people are oh-so-blonde ![]()
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Neuroplasticity of the brain — Steven Morgan
MARCH 11, 2010 BY ADMIN Rethinking the Potential of the Brain in Major Psychiatric Disorders By Steven Morgan stevenmorganjr@gmail.com I. Questionable Theories The human brain is likely the most complex structure in the Universe. Even though it produces our understanding of the world, we are still in our infancy of understanding it. Even so, technological advances in the past few decades have produced images that allow researchers to observe different parts of the brain reacting to stimuli in real time, and also to measure variations in brain structures to compare populations. Alongside these developments, the field of psychiatry has increasingly sought after and put forth biological explanations for psychiatric disorders. With the influence of billions of advertising dollars from pharmaceutical companies,[1] these theories have been simplified and sold to laypeople in the form of “mental illness is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain.”[2] For someone who is newly diagnosed with a major psychiatric disorder, such an explanation can provide relief. It offers a reason for extreme behavior that s/he may find shameful or bewildering, and it assures family members that they are not at fault. Blaming the brain also discredits the self-denigrating notion that one’s inability to cope with psychological problems is connected to weakness of character. Yet there are serious repercussions for endorsing these theories. People who believe that chemical imbalances underlie psychiatric disorders are likely to believe that medication must be used as a corrective measure, often for life. They are also likely to overlook the causative influence of socio-cultural factors and histories of trauma and abuse. Even when theorists do acknowledge that environmental stressors play a role in the development of psychiatric disorders, they often refer to them as “triggers” of the underlying biological problem. In other words, the problem still originates from and remains within the diagnosed person. Finally, according to a recent study,[3] associating psychiatric disorders with faulty brain chemistry actually increases public stigma: “Biogenetic causal beliefs and diagnostic labeling by the public are positively related to prejudice, fear and desire for distance.” Underlying the debate of whether brain-based theories are helpful or harmful are far more important questions to ask: Are these theories even true? Are psychiatric disorders caused by brain diseases and chemical imbalances? And if they are, can the brain change, heal, and grow out of them? Answers to these questions deeply influence whether workers – especially psychiatrists and medically-oriented professionals – believe that people with diagnoses can make complete recoveries, and they equally influence the hopes and aspirations of people who are diagnosed. However, as a layperson, it can be extremely difficult to investigate such material. Most people are not educated in the neurosciences, nor do they have the will or resources to explore the vast research literature that informs psychiatric practice. Furthermore, since science is equated with truth in Western society, and since doctors are equated with science, many people are conditioned to entrust psychiatrists with providing accurate and tested information. Thus, questioning medical wisdom is somewhat deviant, and attempts at challenging psychiatric theories may be quieted by self-belittlement – “What do I know?” – or rejection from social groups who endorse the dominant paradigm – “Doctor knows best.” Yet as the consumer/survivor/ex-patient movement increasingly demands that mental health workers perceive clients as harboring untapped potential, so must workers and clients make efforts to re-examine their assumptions about the brain. II. A New Science, A New Brain Traditionally, the adult brain was considered relatively hard-wired and fixed, a prognosis that lowered expectations about the possibility of curing the alleged brain problems that underlie psychiatric disorders. Thus, in the medical world, schizophrenia and bipolar disorder have been conceptualized as life-long, incurable brain pathologies that a person can learn to manage, but never completely resolve. However, these hypotheses have always been problematic, for longitudinal studies have demonstrated again and again that a significant amount of people diagnosed with schizophrenia completely emerge from psychiatric symptoms and no longer use medications.[4] These individuals pose this challenge to neurobiology: if their previous symptoms were in fact due to a broken brain, are their brains now fixed? The simple answer is yes, and a new area of science is explaining how and why. (It should be noted that scientists could obtain a wealth of information from comparing PET and fMRI scans of people who have completely recovered with people who are still experiencing similar psychiatric symptoms, but that more research is needed). This area of science is called neuroplasticity, and its findings are rapidly reversing old myths about the potentiality of the brain. More: Neuroplasticity of the brain — Steven Morgan – Beyond Meds |
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Autogenic Meditation
They’re looking at me?! I’m depressed. They shouldn’t have done that to me! I’ve got a thousand things to do! When will this suffering stop??? These are just a few of the repetitive thoughts which constantly bombard my mind. The human mind is a powerful force, and once the engine is started and it’s reached top speed, it can often be hard to bring it down a gear or two. With a racing mind, thoughts and feelings gain such momentum they start propelling themselves, feeding off their own energy. You eventually become so overwhelmed that at some level a breakdown occurs, be it physically or mentally. One way I’ve found useful in slowing down the constant barrage of thoughts and sooth an over active mind is Autogenic meditation. The aim of Autogenic meditation, for me at least, is to get out of my mind and get in touch with my body. I believe this has two major benefits: · Firstly, it gives your mind a much needed rest! All those racing thoughts can be tiring, and drain you of vital energy. · Autogenics puts you back in touch with your body and is deeply relaxing. In a mind-dominated society it’s very easy to lose touch with your inner essence. I’ve found that a short, regular, daily practice of Autogenic meditation reconnects me with the inner aliveness of my body. Before you go to the website where you can learn about the autogenic technique, I have few gentle words of advice which I would have found useful if I was starting.... · It can take time to feel the benefits. It will vary from person to person, but in my personal experience it took a couple of weeks before I could start to feel the effects. However, once this happened and I got used to getting in touch with my body, the beneficial effects grew and grew and I’m now at a point where I can use autogenics in many situations and enter a relaxed state in just a few deep breathes. · Don’t be too hard on yourself if you find it hard to get rid of thoughts whilst meditating. Clearing your mind is something you will learn in time. One technique I like to use is imagining any thought that crops up while I meditate as a butterfly. If I notice I’m caught up in thought whilst meditating, I imagine catching it in my hands like a butterfly and then letting it go, picturing the thought flying away. · The breathing technique, which you should do before each meditation, can be the hardest part of autogenics. Do your best each day. Yet again, don’t be too hard on yourself if you can’t do it straight away. Even after a few months of practice I still struggle on occasions. The whole point of the breathing technique is to get you in a relaxed and calm state to start the autogenics. Try your best to build up to counting to 6 on the inhale breath and counting 12 on the exhale. However, as long as you’re breathing is regular and relaxed, and you feel calm before you start the autogenic meditation then you’re in a good position to feel the benefits. · Do it at regular times during the day. Regular practice is helpful if you want to feel the benefits. For example, I’ll practice once in the morning before I start my day, once in the evening and finally just before I go to sleep. Find your own particular rhythms and patterns throughout the day which suit you best. If you find it hard to fit it in your schedule then try to practice at least once a day. Overall autogenics is a great relaxation technique if nothing else. I’ve found the benefits have spread into my daily life even when I’m not practising by calming my thoughts, slowing my breathing and relaxing my whole body, so please give it a try...... NB. I found it useful to re-read the introduction on the website from time to time when I first started to get a better understanding of it. Enjoy! Autogenics -- A self-help training schedule Link : Coming Off Psychiatric Medication - Autogenic Meditation |
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[quote=VenusHalley;2940173]I agree, it's far from conclusive. Many studies have found Bipolar Disorder to run in families -they're still trying to prove that tendency found in studies with genetic testing. I suspect though it's some sort of mix of genetics and environmental influences, who knows which has more of an impact than the other, though I suspect that would depend on the person.
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Many studies have proven it to be at least as effective as cognitive-behaviorial therapy with a variety of issues, and even more effective, in a couple of studies, over the long term. Somehow, though, these studies seem to get buried and CBT (and mindfulness for that matter) continue to be touted, in popular literature, as the be all and end all of treatment. I just wish there were more space and recognition given to psychodyamic therapy. |
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Well one good thing about things like meditation and mindfulness, you don't need acess to a therapist. You can do things like cbt on your own, I have done a lot of that kind of stuff on my own but sometimes it is more helpful to have a therapist. Tho that is not something that is readily available to all.
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I just don't think it's a matter of 'it's not my fault/I didn't choose this.' Imagine all the challenges in our lives and those in the lives of people we know which were not 'chosen,' not just bipolar, or any other mental illness. No it's not one's 'fault' having a mental illness or any other challenge in life, but that doesnt preclude responsibility, I think responsibility for one's recovery is something else altogether, and a more realistic way of looking at things. Being expected to take an active role in your recovery (this isn't directed at anyone, just in general) doesn't mean what you're recovering from is your 'fault.' Just my take on it. |
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Trauma, Psychosis, and Spirituality: What’s the Connection?
by RON UNGER on JANUARY 8, 2011 Someone recently wrote to the psychosisspirituality list asking how terrifying and debilitating experiences with psychosis could possibly be seen as having a spiritual dimension. A friend of mine wrote one response but then also challenged me to give my opinion, which I give below. I don’t usually write with such a spiritual focus, but I felt inspired to do so, so here goes! It is not always clear what sort of experiences are best called “psychosis” and seen as bad, or what kinds of experiences are best called “spirituality” and seen as good. Instead it seems there is a realm of experience that is outside of our cultural norm, that we might call mystery, where people have experiences that are challenging, with a possibility of being seen as either bad or good, and of resulting in life outcomes that may be either bad or good in the conventional sense. Mystery can be seen as both absence and presence. When we focus on its dark side, it is absolutely terrifying. But it does have another side, that offers absolute security, it has everything that we actually need. When the Buddhists speak of the Void, they aren’t speaking of something negative, but rather about an ultimate reality that has everything we need. Looked at from a more human perspective, when we empty the mind in meditation, we find it is actually full (which I like to think is what being “mindful” is really about.) Because we come to the point where opposites come together, and are all present (and absent) at the same time. In some Native American traditions, when the directions are called at the beginning of ceremony, the effect can also be to come together at this place where opposites coexist. More: Trauma, Psychosis, and Spirituality: What’s the Connection? |
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THE CAUSE AND CURE OF PSYCHOSIS
whether bipolar, mania, paranoia or any of the schizophrenias Dr Bob Johnson Saturday, 20 June 2009 The cause and cure of psychoses is simple, and would be obvious to all, were it not for the mountain of prejudice which so obscures our view. What is needed is to look with a clear unbiased eye at what actually happens in a psychosis. This is not possible in cold print, but on the clear assumption that what follows is well below 50% accurate, try this. Suppose you meet a person suffering a psychotic break, the conversation might perhaps go somewhat as follows. You say “hello”, they don’t. You say “it’s a nice day” – they say nothing. They hear and see things you don’t. They describe fears and terrors you cannot see and do not believe in. They talk in ways that make no sense to you, and about things you cannot possibly understand or follow. The dialogue is not really a dialogue, more two monologues. There is no meeting of minds – there is no consensus as to what you are talking about, or indeed about the reality you are both sharing at that moment. What usually happens in a conversation between two people – indeed the underlying purpose of any and every conversation – is the overlapping and mutual confirmation of what reality is like just then. But this simply doesn’t happen when one participant is labouring under a psychosis. That’s what a psychosis is, and that is all that a psychosis is. The rest is embroidery. So the cure, obviously, would be to re-synchronise these two realities, yours and theirs. This requires establishing a common point, an agreed foundation or basis from which to start. Without this, you are running on parallel lines, your two versions of reality diverge. You are talking, not so much at cross-purposes, more at cross-realities. Psychotic thinking is unreal. And the origin of this unreality is fear, serious fear, best labelled terror. Psychosis does not occur unless the sufferer has been deflected from today’s reality – and the only thing powerful enough to deflect the human mind from finding out what is currently going on, is terror. The remedy for all and every psychosis therefore, is abating the terror. This is why ‘the healing hand of kindness’ has proved so effective in the past, and will do so increasingly in the future. It forms the basis of the Therapeutic Community approach in which I was trained in 1963, as also of the Soteria movement today. And it obviously makes sense. There is a prodigious reason why the person you are talking to does not converse, does not share your interest in what’s currently happening, in what is real. Remove that prodigious reason, and a commonality is again introduced, from which, since both are sociable human beings, both can benefit enormously. And the sovereign remedy for fear, is trust – whence the axiom: Truth, Trust and Consent, as discussed more fully elsewhere. Thus the cause of psychosis is terror which when removed leads invariably to cure. More: the cause and cure of psychosis | Dr Bob Johnson's website |
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[quote=AeonDM;2947466]THE CAUSE AND CURE OF PSYCHOSIS
Thus the cause of psychosis is terror which when removed leads invariably to cure. Ugh... I find some of these articles to be such gross over-generalizations. I suppose it might make some people feel better thinking they've got it all figured out and that such vastly complex issues are actually quite simple and cut and dried... |
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i think the first time i heard "cut and dried" used like that was in A Beautiful Mind. im pretty sure russell crowes character said that.
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