[jesusplay]

interesting day.

Woke up at 7am...I was tired(If i wake up tired, must be a depressed day )

mood: did't feel high or low.

started driving to work for 8am

mood:better than normal but not hypomanic

The flood gates opened, pure euphoria: 12pm

I'm talking, I'm feeling like I have to keep talking, I'm telling my personal info, I'm making the entire class laugh, Lifes great, racing thoughts(but not in a bad way).

180 from the past 7 days, quiet, down for 2 days, when I was at a stable mood I was missing the hypomania.

mood: hypomanic?

5 pm

I'm happy I'm home now, I know when I come down I'm going to feel stupid for the things I did today. I'm sitting the floor right now, I have a smile on my face, my brain feels like it's soaked in christmas eve, stuck in an orgasm. I feel so good I want to cry, tears of joy. I lookedi n the mirror and want to kiss it

I'm happy I'm not around people, I had the urge to walk up to people I didn't know today, complement this girl I've seen around base. I would have come off as crazy.

according to webmd this is hypomania? My pdoc said I sounded like I might be bipolar when we first met, put me on wellbutrin sr 2 weeks ago, followed up 4 days ago: She says keep taking the wellbutrin, no diagnosis, I didn't ask for one.

yolo

[jesusplay]

I'm begging you for mercy!!!!! DUffy is amazing!

[hamster-bamster]

Originally Posted by jesusplay

The flood gates opened, pure euphoria: 12pm

according to webmd this is hypomania?

My pdoc said I sounded like I might be bipolar when we first met, put me on wellbutrin sr 2 weeks ago, followed up 4 days ago: She says keep taking the wellbutrin, no diagnosis

On the surface, the pdoc appears to be insane if she put a person who might be bipolar and who might currently be hypomanic on wellbutrin alone, but without knowing all the details, it is hard to say.

[Cocosurviving]

Hi---it does sound like hypomania. I would encourage you to seek a thorough eval. I found something for you: The criteria for bipolar disorder do not include depressive episodes, and the presence of mania in the absence of depressive episodes is sufficient for a diagnosis. Regardless, those who never experience depression also experience cyclical changes in mood. These cycles are often affected by changes in sleep cycle (too much or too little),

[Cocosurviving]

Originally Posted by hamster-bamster

On the surface, the pdoc appears insane if she put a person who might be bipolar and who might currently be hypomanic on wellbutrin alone, but without knowing all the details, it is hard to say.

ITA. I'm shocked and confused. I was being open minded when I suggested a thorough eval. LOL. I really meant find a new pdoc.

[Travelinglady]

It does sound in the manic category to me. And anti-depressants can cause manic episodes......

[jesusplay]

Originally Posted by PAYNE1

It does sound in the manic category to me. And anti-depressants can cause manic episodes......

I have no idea what to do

I'm in the military, I'm limited to the on base pdoc, She has 32 years in the field.

I lost all confidence in her at the last meeting. I told her about how I was having brain zaps, weird pressure/feeling/sound in brain 5 days after her telling me to stop paxil cold turkey after 4 months , it's been 7 days later and I'm still getting this weird feeling often when I move my head. paxil withdrawal?

She wasn't familiar with my symptoms, she didn't know what brains zaps were, or what SSRI discontinuation syndrome is

she put's me on wellbutrin, one week I meet here agai nand tell her about my rollar coast 7 days, she says keep taking the wellbutrin and she will see me in 3 weeks.

I'm so ****ed

Google has been a better doctor.

The military has the crappiest health care system ever.

[hamster-bamster]

To the best of my knowledge, of AD's that cause mania, Wellbutrin is the likeliest to do that...

You are clearly not in luck with her.

[Trippin2.0]

After what you have just described you absolutely CANNOT keep taking an AD for 3 more weeks without a MS to balance its effects.

AD's cause mania. WTF was she thinking anyway? "Take this for a month so I can tell if you're bipolar?"

You need to discontinue or add a Mood Stabilizer NOW.

[jesusplay]

Originally Posted by Trippin2.0

After what you have just described you absolutely CANNOT keep taking an AD for 3 more weeks without a MS to balance its effects.

AD's cause mania. WTF was she thinking anyway? "Take this for a month so I can tell if you're bipolar?"

You need to discontinue or add a Mood Stabilizer NOW.

I guess it's fine I've only tired to kill myself once last year and I did a pretty good job of not trying again after 6 months before I sought mental help

I get super depressed and think about suicide, running people over wh are walking on the side of the road, multiple ways to kill myself, planning to kill myself.

Over a year period with no meds before seeing a pdoc:

75% of the time I was suicidal, 2% I would have hypomaic/manic days where I would do some really crazy ****.15% of the time I was in this state I am in now, like, amazing. I love it. and the other 8% was a balenced mood, not high or low.

[Trippin2.0]

Don't worry, you are not alone. Plenty of us have intrusive thoughts bout causing harm to ourselves and or others, and plenty have been actively suicidal too...

Just please get off the wellbutrin beofre you destabilize any further.

[hamster-bamster]

here is a long post on how to taper off WB, with links to the FDA and manufacturer information:

Tips for tapering off Wellbutrin, SR, XR, XL (buproprion) - Surviving Antidepressants

[jesusplay]

Originally Posted by Trippin2.0

Don't worry, you are not alone. Plenty of us have intrusive thoughts bout causing harm to ourselves and or others, and plenty have been actively suicidal too...

Just please get off the wellbutrin beofre you destabilize any further.

I don't wanna get trapped in a depressed period.

I just can't do it, I don't want today to end.

[jesusplay]

Originally Posted by hamster-bamster

here is a long post on how to taper off WB, with links to the FDA and manufacturer information:

Tips for tapering off Wellbutrin, SR, XR, XL (buproprion) - Surviving Antidepressants

I don't know what to do? Should I tell my pdoc to put me on something else? It was weird the last time I saw her, told her about how after I started the well weburtin I was going from normal to hypo to normal to hypo, hypo-possibly manic? I was irritated, I was driving 90 mph, ididn't give any ****s.

any ways, she says, see me again in 3 weeks, wait for the wellbutrin to take effect? and she ask me if I think any different?

WHY AS YOU ASKING ME?!?!?!?!!! I JSUT TOLD YOU ABOUT WHATS BEEN GOING ON??!!?!!??!?!!?

military man, I regret ever trying to get help in the first place, seems liek all they ask me is "are you going to kill youself" I reply "no", I'm not gonna tell them I'm having suicidal thoughts and constant plans anymore. Last time I said yes, they tried to commit me, Should I just commit myself so I can see another pdoc? should I just walk into the down town clinic next time I'm having suicidal thoughts? I'm not a cutter or anything, When idid try to kill myself it was 1000mg of benedryl and have a thing of patron.

[jesusplay]

I feel stupid about going to a hospital for suicidal thoughts, I know if I am going to kill myself, I'm gonna do it. ANd my body won't be found for a couple of days anyway.

[ultramar]

Originally Posted by jesusplay

interesting day.

Woke up at 7am...I was tired(If i wake up tired, must be a depressed day )

mood: did't feel high or low.

started driving to work for 8am

mood:better than normal but not hypomanic

The flood gates opened, pure euphoria: 12pm

I'm talking, I'm feeling like I have to keep talking, I'm telling my personal info, I'm making the entire class laugh, Lifes great, racing thoughts(but not in a bad way).

180 from the past 7 days, quiet, down for 2 days, when I was at a stable mood I was missing the hypomania.

mood: hypomanic?

5 pm

I'm happy I'm home now, I know when I come down I'm going to feel stupid for the things I did today. I'm sitting the floor right now, I have a smile on my face, my brain feels like it's soaked in christmas eve, stuck in an orgasm. I feel so good I want to cry, tears of joy. I lookedi n the mirror and want to kiss it

I'm happy I'm not around people, I had the urge to walk up to people I didn't know today, complement this girl I've seen around base. I would have come off as crazy.

according to webmd this is hypomania? My pdoc said I sounded like I might be bipolar when we first met, put me on wellbutrin sr 2 weeks ago, followed up 4 days ago: She says keep taking the wellbutrin, no diagnosis, I didn't ask for one.

yolo

In my opinion, one of the defining characteristics of hypomania or mania is that it affects your life negatively in a very big way (keeping in mind, too, that sometimes when in the throes of it, we're not so aware of this).

So, to me, (but not in a bad way) this sounds like you just had a really fun/happy, a little impulsive, day.

You might get a better idea from reading the criteria -at the top of this forum there's a description, including how long these moods tend to last. You can look up the DSM criteria on the Internet.

It's unusual for those with bipolar to be prescribed antidepressants alone -without mood stabilizers and/or antipsychotics. Wellbutrin, as I understand it, is also a pretty activating AD, so it doesn't sound like your doctor thinks you fit this diagnosis. That said, if you have concerns, you might want to keep a mood journal, how you feel, for how long, and what might precipitate or cause such changes in moods and bring it in to discuss with your doctor.

Best of luck.

[jesusplay]

Originally Posted by ultramar

In my opinion, one of the defining characteristics of hypomania or mania is that it affects your life negatively in a very big way (keeping in mind, too, that sometimes when in the throes of it, we're not so aware of this).

So, to me, (but not in a bad way) this sounds like you just had a really fun/happy, a little impulsive, day.

You might get a better idea from reading the criteria -at the top of this forum there's a description, including how long these moods tend to last. You can look up the DSM criteria on the Internet.

It's unusual for those with bipolar to be prescribed antidepressants alone -without mood stabilizers and/or antipsychotics. Wellbutrin, as I understand it, is also a pretty activating AD, so it doesn't sound like your doctor thinks you fit this diagnosis. That said, if you have concerns, you might want to keep a mood journal, how you feel, for how long, and what might precipitate or cause such changes in moods and bring it in to discuss with your doctor.

Best of luck.

So people normally get euphorias that last random periods days to weeks? Today wasn't normal, totatlly out of character on so many levels. I know When I fall from my current grace, today will be more fuel to that fire. My mood changes, not based on any factors. It just happens.

[Cocosurviving]

Originally Posted by jesusplay

I don't know what to do? Should I tell my pdoc to put me on something else? It was weird the last time I saw her, told her about how after I started the well weburtin I was going from normal to hypo to normal to hypo, hypo-possibly manic? I was irritated, I was driving 90 mph, ididn't give any ****s.

any ways, she says, see me again in 3 weeks, wait for the wellbutrin to take effect? and she ask me if I think any different?

WHY AS YOU ASKING ME?!?!?!?!!! I JSUT TOLD YOU ABOUT WHATS BEEN GOING ON??!!?!!??!?!!?

military man, I regret ever trying to get help in the first place, seems liek all they ask me is "are you going to kill youself" I reply "no", I'm not gonna tell them I'm having suicidal thoughts and constant plans anymore. Last time I said yes, they tried to commit me, Should I just commit myself so I can see another pdoc? should I just walk into the down town clinic next time I'm having suicidal thoughts? I'm not a cutter or anything, When idid try to kill myself it was 1000mg of benedryl and have a thing of patron.

Yes tell your pdoc that you would like to be put on a mood stabilizer (MS). Then you MIGHT be able to stay on the AD your taking. I took a AD without a MS (earlier b4 I knew what I know now) and it caused me to have mania (lasted 3 months).

[hamster-bamster]

I would find out who supervises the p-doc and write a letter to the person, saying what you have said here. Since you do not have a choice of the pdoc, the next step is go to the supervisor.

People have suggested that you switch to another pdoc, but that only works in private practice-type settings.

[ultramar]

Originally Posted by jesusplay

I guess it's fine I've only tired to kill myself once last year and I did a pretty good job of not trying again after 6 months before I sought mental help

I get super depressed and think about suicide, running people over wh are walking on the side of the road, multiple ways to kill myself, planning to kill myself.

Over a year period with no meds before seeing a pdoc:

75% of the time I was suicidal, 2% I would have hypomaic/manic days where I would do some really crazy ****.15% of the time I was in this state I am in now, like, amazing. I love it. and the other 8% was a balenced mood, not high or low.

After reading this, I'd keep a mood journal and go over it with your doctor. Have you talked to her about the hypomanic/manic days you've described? If so, what did she say?

I tend to hesitate advising people to find a new doctor when at the end of the day we have so little information. Who knows what she's basing her prescribing on? Maybe she thinks you're mostly very depressive and this is what most affects you and doesn't think the more hypomanic symptoms affect you to the extent of needing a different sort of medication -who knows...

All you can do is be as specific with her as possible and really ask her, if you haven't, what she thinks of these other symptoms. I know it can be difficult -especially when not doing well- to describe things as well as one might when seeing a psychiatrist, especially when appointments tend to be so short, so I recommend writing stuff down and bringing it in to your appointment. And if you feel that your current symptoms are getting you out of control, I'd urge you to call her to make an earlier appointment.

Good luck!

[Cocosurviving]

Originally Posted by hamster-bamster

I would find out who supervises the p-doc and write a letter to the person, saying what you have said here. Since you do not have a choice of the pdoc, the next step is go to the supervisor.

People have suggested that you switch to another pdoc, but that only works in private practice-type settings.

ITA since your stuck with just the one pdoc.